hodlbod

Christian Bitcoiner and developer of coracle.social. Learn more at info.coracle.social.

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2025-04-17 23:11:38 GMT

Just recorded a podcast with C. R. Wiley, and I'm stoked. He is thinking about technology in a deeper and more constructive way than most Christians. Go listen to his podcast: https://fountain.fm/show/arKWodxWbGwOVzgw3ciI

2025-04-17 23:03:23 GMT

Building a micro-app with mithril.js and I'm happy again. No major changes since 2019, no preprocessor needed (it's vanillajs friendly), no magic syntax, javascript only, manage state however you want, it's beautiful.

2025-04-17 00:54:12 GMT

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I only recently discovered your articles, and they're quite good and very applucable to what we're doing here. Welcome to nostr!

2025-04-14 17:05:35 GMT

Some interesting design patterns that might be applicable to nostr apps in some cases: https://www.prosocialdesign.org/

2025-04-13 22:24:52 GMT

When asked to explain his choice to major in physics, Wolfgang Smith said, "I want to study physics because I believe that physics is the key to the understanding of the universe." He amends, "Needless to say, I have changed my mind in the interim."

2025-04-08 19:33:24 GMT

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Does this do the trick?
https://coracle-media.us-southeast-1.linodeobjects.com/flotilla-tour.mov
I also added it to the website.

2025-04-07 17:05:42 GMT

Hey @nprofile…fksp I'm getting an error when trying to zap @nprofile…mqyq: "Could not generate a lightning invoice for this project". Can you tell me what's going on there?

2025-04-07 16:09:02 GMT

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Sorry, I am mid refactor, I should have released an alpha version. Pin welshman to the previous version or use what's in the lockfile. I'll hopefully be able to update flotilla this week

2025-04-05 23:14:14 GMT

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💯

2025-04-05 13:21:38 GMT

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Check out bitvora for some recent development in the personal relay space. I don't know if they have tutorials, you're right that the user documentation is awful in general.
https://github.com/bitvora

2025-04-04 23:18:25 GMT

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A lot of lists are also out of date. The first wave of projects is probably 90% dead, which can give the illusion that the whole space is too

2025-04-04 17:59:29 GMT

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Thanks, it's a big day for me

2025-04-04 15:58:16 GMT

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We shouldn't merge the PR, relays should continue to support multiple filters. But, having implemented this in coracle recently, it's actually super nice because it encourages callers to split requests by filter, which results in slightly faster response times for each result set.

2025-04-04 01:38:09 GMT

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To do it for real, yes, I completely agree

2025-04-04 00:52:35 GMT

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An attempt at building go on nostr: https://github.com/coracle-social/nogo/blob/master/index.html

2025-04-04 00:35:45 GMT

Feeling pretty good about myself, just vibe coded 700 lines of utter garbage in only 30 minutes

2025-04-04 00:20:05 GMT

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I am 35 and I still don't know how to use commas

2025-04-03 21:01:59 GMT

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I mean that John may have been a nazirite

2025-04-03 17:38:01 GMT

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👀 I will take a look

2025-04-03 17:36:31 GMT

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Oh yeah, I forgot, that's Gigi 😂

2025-04-03 15:22:13 GMT

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If not, click "skip this step" and go to the relays tab and choose some relays

2025-04-03 15:21:54 GMT

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Have you published relay selections? I can't find them on your profile. If you haven't created a 10002 event, coracle will fail this way to avoid accidentally overwriting important metadata events.

2025-04-03 13:45:10 GMT

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Have you tried coracle.social?

2025-04-03 00:27:09 GMT

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Block their IP? Ignoring closed is definitely bad behavior. EOSE + CLOSE is forcing me to do weird hacks in coracle

2025-04-02 21:36:03 GMT

@nprofile…dwak auth.nostr1.com is sending an EOSE along with a close, which doesn't seem right to me. Is this deliberate, or a bug?
https://cdn.nostrcheck.me/97c70a44366a6535c145b333f973ea86dfdc2d7a99da618c40c64705ad98e322/d6111b09e4df10ac4dfedc089afd6a7e13850bfd9dc9de5f344612e582e1278f.webp

2025-04-02 17:51:20 GMT

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I can't imagine being someone with more time than ideas, but somehow that seems to be extremely common with developers

2025-04-02 16:14:21 GMT

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Slow, I'm currently shaving yaks in the himalayas

2025-04-02 16:13:48 GMT

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Yeah, there were some other red flags in the docs, like:
https://cdn.nostrcheck.me/97c70a44366a6535c145b333f973ea86dfdc2d7a99da618c40c64705ad98e322/9e764a50d7d2361693dd671ae0c14cd5e876f6183e74b6a239dffb7df00980a1.webp
So we'll see if they deliver anything worth using

2025-04-02 15:20:28 GMT

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Big if true, I love the idea of a lower-level backend + event sourcing. This might check the box for @nprofile…20a8 as well, he and @nprofile…jyqh were talking about decoupling application logic and rendering recently.

2025-04-01 19:19:01 GMT

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https://tenor.com/i6ZfyIZDWKl.gif

2025-04-01 17:17:27 GMT

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Ah, nice, that's the opposite approach to what I'm doing but it makes plenty of sense

2025-04-01 12:12:02 GMT

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I made it opt in because it requires additional trust and additional processing. I think it was a good call for now at least

2025-03-31 22:58:17 GMT

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There is no authority, just like nostr. Embrace the chaos

2025-03-31 18:09:19 GMT

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Thank you!

2025-03-31 15:43:11 GMT

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That's a slick interface, I like it a lot. The main reason I wouldn't use this implementation is that a lot of the policy is baked in, which might need to be configurable by the application. I have a bunch of policy stuff here: https://github.com/coracle-social/welshman/blob/net2/packages/net2/src/policy.ts which is mostly reasonable defaults, but if users wanted to configure auth policy per relay I don't see how that could be done in applesauce. Also, why no`subscribe` ?

2025-03-31 15:38:00 GMT

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You're welcome! Notifications being missed depends a lot on which relays they're published to, if they're not sent to your read relays they won't get picked up. Lots of clients aren't good about this, but if you can narrow down which client sent them I can look into it. And of course coracle has bugs too, some of which I'm attempting to refactor away this week.

2025-03-30 03:47:04 GMT

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Hmm, sorry I missed it, mind trying again?

2025-03-29 23:25:25 GMT

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😂

2025-03-29 14:16:34 GMT

I'm honored
#nevent1q…ca5a

2025-03-27 21:25:08 GMT

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You really are from the future

2025-03-27 18:26:24 GMT

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Thanks, I might just do that. For now, I'm probably going to go with emitter version since I really need to get this refactor done. But let me know when you publish the rxjs relay stuff, I'd love to learn/contribute there.

2025-03-27 18:23:30 GMT

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This is the most nuanced take I've seen on this subject yet.
First of all, yes, I agree github is not ideal and we should move NIPs elsewhere. But so far no one has stepped up to build a viable replacement, so for now we have to deal with the two-tier system through culture, by encouraging devs not to worry about things not getting merged. I personally have 10+ unmerged open PRs which are in varying levels of implementation in my stuff. Having them unmerged is 1. an invitation to collaborate, and 2. a signal that they're not adopted widely.
As far as lexicons go, when I was designing my own protocol that was the direction I was taking things. I'm still sympathetic to the idea, except for what you pointed out about control over the lexicon. Numeric identifiers are much better, because they're neutral — *if* we can get into a good habit of publicly signaling their use and adoption. That's not trivial of course, and points back to my first paragraph.
As far as specificity, the terseness and ambiguity is (I think) one of nostr's strengths. I could be wrong about this, because it basically goes against all the conventional wisdom of specification writing, so we'll see if it works out in practice. But specifying the minimum interoperability surface area allows there to be more flexibility in how a given data format can be used. This can lead to inconsistent UX, which is a problem but something devs are motivated to work through because it aligns with their interests, or it can lead to innovative new ideas. In either case though, it forces devs to be more conservative about how they treat events, encouraging defensive coding (in case of deliberately malformed events as an attack) and wider interoperability. This is an adaptive approach rather than a validate-and-throw-away approach.

2025-03-27 17:47:00 GMT

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Yeah, I think I understand all that in the abstract, I'm just finding it quite hard to actually execute, partly because of the duplex nature of websockets, which is what I've been focusing on far, and partly due to the forking nature of streams, which makes me unsure what subscriptions need to be managed and which don't.

2025-03-27 17:43:41 GMT

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Me too, and getting deeper. I hate falling down these holes 😂

2025-03-27 17:02:05 GMT

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I do too. @nprofile…rxj5 is there a repository with wip code anywhere?

2025-03-27 16:04:16 GMT

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Hey, did you guys get my DM? I'd still love to get something set up.

2025-03-27 13:07:53 GMT

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Most apps do follow this. It's a dafinition based on that "plain text" recommendation, @nprofile…ucgf just didn't want us to use the term plain text, so we made up a new name.

2025-03-26 23:30:00 GMT

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Dang, sorry to hear that! I am re-writing some core networking code, which should help with general stability, but it sounds like the system might just be getting clogged up with those hellthreads. I'll have to do some load testing at some point.

2025-03-26 21:01:13 GMT

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Yeah, the tricky part seems to be intercepting send messages so that you can buffer them and re-send after authentication (or remove reqs that have been closed before they were sent while you were waiting for auth). Here's my (half-baked) policy for that:
```
export const socketPolicyDeferOnAuth = (socket: Socket) => {
const send$ = socket.send$
const buffer: ClientMessage[] = []
const authState = new AuthState(socket)
const okStatuses = [AuthStatus.None, AuthStatus.Ok]
// Defer sending certain messages when we're not authenticated
socket.send$ = send$.pipe(
filter(message => {
// Always allow sending auth
if (isClientAuth(message)) return true
// Always allow sending join requests
if (isClientEvent(message) && message[1].kind === AUTH_JOIN) return true
// If we're not ok, remove the message and save it for later
if (!okStatuses.includes(authState.status)) {
buffer.push(message)
return false
}
return true
}),
)
// Send buffered messages when we get successful auth
return authState.subscribe((status: AuthStatus) => {
if (okStatuses.includes(status)) {
const reqs = new Set(buffer.filter(isClientReq).map(nth(1)))
const closed = new Set(buffer.filter(isClientClose).map(nth(1)))
for (const message of buffer.splice(0)) {
// Skip requests that were closed before they were sent
if (isClientReq(message) && closed.has(message[1])) continue
// Skip closes for requests that were never sent
if (isClientClose(message) && reqs.has(message[1])) continue
socket.send(message)
}
}
})
}
```

2025-03-26 20:08:52 GMT

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Here's a question: I feel like I started wading into rxjs with a very hard problem, websocket connections. Websockets are shared resources, and so need to be modeled using a subject somewhere along the line. They're also bi-directional, and so I'm not sure how to pass them around in an idiomatic way. I'd like to define a function like`implementAuthPolicy(tx, rx)` that can intercept and buffer both sent and received messages. Maybe that's less of a question than me just thinking out loud.

2025-03-26 19:54:42 GMT

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You're missing out

2025-03-26 18:28:33 GMT

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Sounds like fun

2025-03-26 18:27:35 GMT

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Because I'm writing a web client

2025-03-26 18:12:21 GMT

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Cool, that's good to hear. I was like "cool, a way to avoid memory leaks". Then, 5 hours in realizing I had to deal with memory leaks.

2025-03-26 18:05:39 GMT

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As in, you tried it, and went back to imperative event listeners?

2025-03-26 18:03:27 GMT

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@nprofile…h7nv

2025-03-26 18:03:09 GMT

Attempting to learn RxJS because it seems like streams would be the correct way to model events flowing from a relay through various utilities for welshman. I'm currently learning about how to manage subscriptions using`takeUntil` , and it just seems like footguns and strange mental models abound.
I'm interested in others' experience with Rx*. Is it the amazing paradigm shift people say it is, or does it just make your code more obscure and come with its own problems? In anything less than something like Elm (which I do like), it seems like all you can do is move around the imperative parts of your code, not get rid of them entirely. I had my love affair with point free via ramda a number of years back, and eventually left it for non-curried utility functions (typescript especially made ramda painful). This feels very similar.
https://i.imgflip.com/9opw9g.jpg

2025-03-26 13:03:17 GMT

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👀👀👀

2025-03-26 13:02:57 GMT

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There is always that danger

2025-03-26 03:23:57 GMT

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Completely agree, this was never going to be anything other than a long, slow, enjoyable grind

2025-03-26 00:26:57 GMT

Hello from https://enterthenostr.com/

2025-03-26 00:24:57 GMT

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Nice, that's a good one, I hadn't heard it before.
"content to fill a little space, if thou be glorified." is brutal 😂 but in line with John B's "he must increase, and I must decrease"

2025-03-26 00:22:48 GMT

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Correct, it probably would have been better to use the bookmarks list nip (although that didn't exist at the time)

2025-03-25 21:19:20 GMT

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No, I never got around to building that unfortunately. Collections is still in the "proof of concept" phase.

2025-03-25 21:18:28 GMT

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I agree strongly with your point about "faithful presence", while at the same time mostly failing to content myself with it. The humility and diligence that being "ordinary" requires of us is way beyond what's required to have higher (and more abstract) aspirations.
I also agree with the idea that "we need to content ourselves with it being just plain _good and faithful human work_ that helps our families and benefits our neighbors", but I also see that often becoming a reason for complacency in practice. For example, Christians often just invest in index funds without thinking about what kind of activities they are becoming complicit in.
The balance between grand vision and being "faithful in little" is so difficult I feel like I can't fit both in my head (let alone heart) at once.

2025-03-25 21:12:24 GMT

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😂💯

2025-03-25 16:14:50 GMT

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If you're right, I think I'm in danger of committing the sort of democratic "change the world" fallacy, where everything you do has to have global significance. I recognize that this isn't possible for everyone (and so can't be a prerequisite for a meaningful life), or even necessarily healthy for people who adopt it, but it's hard for me to let go of, and a big part of why I'm here on nostr. At the same time, I think we should have a cosmic view of the meaningfulness of our actions. How do you reconcile those two things? I'm probably just restating the question, but puzzling over this has been a challenge for me for years.

2025-03-25 15:36:22 GMT

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This is the answer I was looking for, thanks!
I swim in mostly post-millennialist circles, and have lately started to feel the effects of over-realized eschatology you identified above. At the same time, I feel like God must have a place for our work, just because we spend so much time doing it. The amil answer isn't completely satisfying to me, because it seems to limit the scope of the effect our new identity as Christians has on our whole lives, but I think your reference to Jeremiah is also a good answer to that — we "mind our own business and work with our own hands" to build up the city of man not as such, but for the peace of the people within it (either evangelistically, or for the Church as a separate enclave).
Thanks for your thoughts, I'll check out those VanDrunen books.

2025-03-25 02:06:53 GMT

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Tell me what you really think of me 😂

2025-03-24 22:10:59 GMT

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No, haven't had a chance to look into it yet, this week

2025-03-24 17:54:11 GMT

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Yep, exactly. PZP solves this with "tangles" and I think p2panda has a similar data structure. There has also been talk on and off about adding synchronization or merkle tree stuff to nostr as well. I think it's a feature rather than a bug.

2025-03-24 17:50:21 GMT

Decided to read some Solarpunk fiction, and it's the most communist thing I've ever read. Not sure if it's all that way, or just the anthology I happened to pick. The first story is like "I (xeh/xer) used AR gadgetry to hack a smart building made by CAPITALISTS to lock them out and used it to house homeless queer youth instead."

2025-03-24 17:19:08 GMT

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Yes, secure scuttlebutt was a predecessor to nostr. It just didn't work very well for multi-device, and required clients to download a lot of unnecessary data.

2025-03-23 21:41:17 GMT

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Try coracle.social

2025-03-23 20:29:17 GMT

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oh no
anyway

2025-03-23 13:57:56 GMT

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"This" being the old creation, right?

2025-03-23 03:58:13 GMT

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Momma's spaghetti 🤤

2025-03-23 03:56:03 GMT

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My belly's getting flatter already

2025-03-23 03:53:01 GMT

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Butt aches, legs unsteady

2025-03-23 02:23:48 GMT

I have a thesis I want to run by my fellow #christians. Maybe I'm just rediscovering postmillennialism, or historic premillennialism, or something, but some of this seems original.
There are two halves of Biblical/world history: Creation and New Creation. Creation's head is Adam, whose commission is dominion. New Creation's head is Jesus, whose commission to evangelism. Dominion involves subduing physical reality to human ingenuity; i.e. technology. New creation involves subduing humanity to divine love.
We are told that this world is going to wear out like a garment, and be rolled up like a scroll, prompting apocalypticism throughout history. Yet Jesus says that the Kingdom is with you, and that it is the latter days. This is conventionally explained by the "already not yet", that New Creation is latent within our earthly lives.
But what if that is true beyond just the devotional? Jesus says the kingdom of heaven is like leaven, and we take that to mean that our souls are being saved. But what if the world itself is being saved? What if every rock, tree, ocean, cloud is being invisibly, slowly suffused by the Good News of Christ's immanent lordship over the earth? What if New Creation is slowly covering Old Creation like moss covering a rock, and when the rock crumbles away the moss will retain its shape? What if the new creation is already here, and is no less physical for it's being spiritual, and when "we see him face to face" and are changed, the rest of the world — including nature and the physical stuff we've built — are suddenly changed as well?
This fits with the idea of the "garden city" — in the Bible, cities come first, and then God irrupts into their center (for example Solomon's and Ezekiel's Temples), changing their entire nature, purpose, and organization.
This seems to me to reconcile God's apparent intention to discard this world in favor of a "new" one with his obvious love of what he has made. Thoughts? Hallucinations?
@nprofile…gpgh @nprofile…lg5q @nprofile…u5qv @nprofile…29w9

2025-03-23 02:11:25 GMT

Great day for podcasts, listen below to my undergraduate thesis advisor (and former pastor) talk with Jonathan Pageau about Biblical typology and the reconciliation of the Church:
https://fountain.fm/show/f8YMIl493SRHK2VTbLqb

2025-03-23 01:52:37 GMT

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8 miles today, 26+ this summer

2025-03-23 01:10:55 GMT

Just hit 8 miles, feels good

2025-03-23 01:09:47 GMT

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Nice, speaking at MIT, that's an accomplishment

2025-03-23 01:07:20 GMT

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Sure, you can grab a time over at flotilla.social

2025-03-22 14:37:02 GMT

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Nice, that worked, although excalidraw replaced whatever old content I still had there 😅

2025-03-22 14:00:25 GMT

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It's ok, I'm glad people are liking Jumble

2025-03-22 04:41:31 GMT

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NIP 04 is a disservice to your users.

2025-03-22 04:40:39 GMT

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My market share is melting away

2025-03-22 04:36:44 GMT

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Nice, this is pretty good. Are these hosted anywhere?

2025-03-22 04:33:49 GMT

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Agreed

2025-03-21 21:29:55 GMT

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I'm not sure, if you get it on web you can open the developer tools and take a screenshot on the console. I'm not sure about android. But I'll look into it

2025-03-21 21:09:58 GMT

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Likely due to a parsing error on a note, is there anything in particular that's causing it?

2025-03-21 18:20:04 GMT

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You can just go on a walk

2025-03-20 23:30:35 GMT

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Thank you sir

2025-03-20 20:01:26 GMT

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I am 35 and training for one currently. Of course, that voice has been whispering to me for 15 years at this point

2025-03-20 17:32:02 GMT

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What in particular isn't working?

2025-03-20 16:20:51 GMT

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In this case, I know exactly what it is, and the types come from the pit of hell

2025-03-20 16:17:13 GMT

`nip19.decode(bech32) as any`
IYKYK @nprofile…6lq7

2025-03-20 15:49:19 GMT

I present to you a new standard of laziness:
https://cdn.nostrcheck.me/97c70a44366a6535c145b333f973ea86dfdc2d7a99da618c40c64705ad98e322/551c567a6a4b016b3c1608e66f98838c77cf583bdb0eb72878397786ff34779b.webp