2025-12-23T10:23:28Z https://njump.me JOE2O https://njump.me/npub150rlcxha3efsleq762eawgaxmry8cjtnms63t7ucp9v8v45zwmsq59d063 https://image.nostr.build/1747ca2ca4b9b7b732b780b0462b557555c6f541544370c23b29fe5660e0a5e0.jpg https://image.nostr.build/1747ca2ca4b9b7b732b780b0462b557555c6f541544370c23b29fe5660e0a5e0.jpg https://njump.me/nevent1qqs9rgzekav2vzrw55hvlmg7790aqxhulxw5z98th34v54gac7a6h7czyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqluzsfc In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsyzdgzdavgtxe56pgy2su4wv7xs6snx45sfn0k6y24hsy3csm3uusppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0p7a8wz'>nevent1q…a8wz</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Nip04 with un-borked encryption! No paradoxes there, good to go. 2026-03-15T23:31:29Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs2npnv59fgzqgdrfuamrtj7ln0rus79zcsrqzzx69llsc4uhk9zkszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqj2syad In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspuz7rekar0v4zeeqxu9l66smylflqnqmeex5ksg9tcuznetl92aspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhscndjtx'>nevent1q…djtx</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>that&#39;s what it is. 2026-03-15T15:27:15Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs9jlkmdlxraduu9spk9au0e03cus8ev4wxa9gzp0u9g9mc7e49uggzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqr22756 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsr273n2jcsxxu4vhcu7q8q926evc6jem5wvaecv7wq3utdhv4ykgqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0lzhsk2'>nevent1q…hsk2</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Catch me if you can 2026-03-15T15:24:53Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsy2wrj0ysa6aaqwj9zkm7x3x20wn6k58gut3llws640j3uy8mksjqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqc4kr9f In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs93f2c996jxs2apj8n494wxcxnnsc2h99ky0546877qjv5r0a8jucpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhs362wnv'>nevent1q…2wnv</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>how else for wallet apps, bank apps, etc. to protect the user from malware apps recording what they are displaying? 2026-03-15T14:56:46Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsqxxsxtggxfpytwehx7up86awtjlgpyp3ze9mnjf0xfzdrrkrxl7czyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqd59nj0 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsv9cj4ukdp62nkxnkw535ckr6w4qk48es9kwfp2mhmemrpe5fzd8gppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0cwx5qw'>nevent1q…x5qw</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>when everything starts feeling like this<br/><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G05-4wrN8bM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G05-4wrN8bM</a> 2026-03-15T13:11:46Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswck3e09vzlzn2ec47a9u0jg2hyutse5zd9d4hyer2mrs8kpnaj0szyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq5hnsnh Developer tip: don&#39;t pick a fight with fundamental paradoxes.<br/>AI can&#39;t help you. <br/>Decentralisation can&#39;t help you.<br/>Nothing can help you. <br/>Fundamental paradoxes have a perfect record against software developers, every win a knockout. 2026-03-15T11:14:44Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsdcjalaqkxj6fhe2q9waqedn8evxlemgk59wd65qkyevlpggh37hczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq9cs62f In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsy24zypg5gv54ztafzfusvgltyu5pcq77vvedkmry4plnzvdsxhpgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0r2ul2m'>nevent1q…ul2m</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>dilithium key management, tooling. 2026-03-10T09:29:34Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqspcd2recjwjulymn2whr77j67h6gnj7557ejpkq6dsswdg4ett0yszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqsmvx4u In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs8qfjzc5kwp4c0td0sd9e5xe4a8h93ejpufm8me8pwdxyyrns9dzqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcc4kaej'>nevent1q…kaej</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I get it, you do many things. <br/><br/>Just saying my thoughs (probably not just mime) is tha refining chaumian e-cash is interesting and whatever Lobster University is, not so much. <br/><br/>swat away such replies as you like. 2026-03-10T09:24:30Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs9ducryky8nyl0yrh6njq04r5fzz5a0a5k7suy9au5yl4lc5a2c5qzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqddzpj8 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsde59j3cfkg9lrw40jhddcayd892sukpf5t23eeeelq42nnkd9mpqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0hueljx'>nevent1q…eljx</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Genuine question. You don&#39;t have to answer. 2026-03-10T09:19:14Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsrzx7gr7gsgxkuvkunn3zvaqhhghh8vh84rzppdqm77g85paeeu3gzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq4af4c7 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszxmxhkctvcjt3gujmecjymf3hzu7wsxln2z8vj86n5lq3qpzyx9gppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0ngrsmz'>nevent1q…rsmz</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Okay, but what happened to the all-in-on Cashu laser focus? Or if fanning out then why not at least e-cash for everything, a general purpose mint system, the taproot of e-cach? Or something e-cash. You were like *the guy* for e-cash. 2026-03-10T09:15:00Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsfmz3cgkn9k97pvfmxzm6wrtheqfg6stet2fyz05t8zfll6xk9ypqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqcpq47y In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswpzfapxescmm7mkvs65xfd6a5af2aglxc7lu8k48w54e6crc665spzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcr4dxmg'>nevent1q…dxmg</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I liked you more when you were all in on Cashu. <br/><br/>I dunno about this trend of the month Calle. 2026-03-10T09:09:27Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswukswjdpr7sjzw2xsmqu0076m2g9drpfnmgyvy6dpzryxpprrucszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqagm0tr In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsyjghflzvga9fyna7jxjkdv38qaxsxktu07fgtlrfcalrmsnxtuxgpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtclaw0jz'>nevent1q…w0jz</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I mean if I was you i&#39;d be dropping the client stuff altogether, just be oracle. Don&#39;t be oracle and twitter. <br/><br/>real value isn&#39;t in being one of x nostr clients that serve like 26 people, real value is in an entirely new database concept. 2026-03-07T18:26:45Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs8pshxxzsn8r60qvf4vq28h9cwjc8l2fnq6t7e39wdvr9lkgfuumczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqlzmy95 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0au5r6u77thcysg79pz6rxprslneffrdqhmv4kvguqt5t272c7gspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhs8shr5d'>nevent1q…hr5d</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>The database is the big thing. imo nostrdb by itself is a serious future endevour, just that alone, no clients except flagship demos to showoff database integration. be the oracle of nostr. 2026-03-07T12:56:42Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs98qw6t6v7gtzw878qnyzz2u502d2z66x0w9zzmlhnflz5h7w4p9qzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqyupx4m In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsd2vl8dp4c8zax3v3yr493zyygh5mpddat27wds05624dl4p8u0espzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcjwakxz'>nevent1q…akxz</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I think it&#39;s not so much that, it&#39;s more a fundamental cake and eat it to situation with regard to what is actually being attempted here. You cannot have stateful and stateless at once, managed and unmanaged, and if you try then every release will have a critical issue, you&#39;re simply shifting critical issues around. 2026-03-07T06:28:42Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsfnt4ku5ttfqhrl7t55lv9a8y2wmfss7w68y5ak9lzcfv6n9ss97czyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqz0nm4t In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsg49j64es4ma6k6fmhn3nq2uxgp83u84g0383nl8ypdt39v30h38cpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsf2t0gt'>nevent1q…t0gt</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>This is also true! 2026-03-02T17:25:53Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswfal9zhjmgeh7c2uhnc868ly8pphw755rvtythu5csue98pexneczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqxa604j In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvhgetaypd8y2na06el2yzlvsjyrsy06kd4er97etp3vp7dm9hdacpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtc7a9v8x'>nevent1q…9v8x</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Normies can get so confused. Zaps themselves are quantifiable, you got 3 zaps of 10 sats each, the currency of which is bitcoin, figure that out. For many normies it&#39;s not even clear if ⚡100 means the note got 100 zaps, the value of each one requiring further inspection, or if the note got 1 zap worth 100 whatevers. 2026-03-02T17:23:19Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswpzyc4uy6fpfzjcq6938x6d9uaxps379tth9xnck7j2t3meu78jszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqavlm0p In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsfyzh77e82qf67gawpefzcznw7qxxyww6r4grmpfwc970naq9upkspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtc2k5ug9'>nevent1q…5ug9</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I get that. your post specifically addressed those building for nostr. 2026-02-27T17:31:45Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsycv4fnac737t2g98f0d26f0qjawkp5cvf3aj8q2vd08fakjk3txgzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq84w9gu In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsyf7etfpseh0l22a5zf4dwszpk4ez7320t9u6fx8erk4pl2na4puqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp00xg5zx'>nevent1q…g5zx</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I&#39;ll just be that guy and say that building on a cryptographic primitive that is <br/>already being deprecated by industry at large, and that (for this kind of system anyway) cannot be migrated from in any sort of self-contained and backwards-compatible way AND that has zero protection from harvest now decrypt later (for the DMs, and encrypted lists, and wallet-related ephemerals, etc.) is just so risky. Even with AI helping you out.<br/><br/>Elliptic curve cryptography is nearing the end of its time, last legs, this place will be fun while it lasts but if what you&#39;re building won&#39;t translate to a post-quantum context then you have to ask yourself what that plan is. 2026-02-27T16:02:34Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsd3n4t2n02qy09l4s4px4j4jppxwcwkqg3vu580dxguatf970v6uqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq9xunhk In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvgdfmyg9ff95thljzvz209a44lp2qkslfs86lxmk60fmsjxntzhsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0vwf2tf'>nevent1q…f2tf</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Yup, looks like everything reduces to moderation, in this brave new world. 2026-02-27T15:55:08Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqspt75ucr6sazztjz9e6jce0w9pr2dqatav7axn8fwcu4fm9tyy7hszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqyluzrl In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsdcw6fyf4l4gqax6yupt6wv9aavfp359rm9g4rhlc6j4actq63geqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhs2z88gj'>nevent1q…88gj</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>nah, imagination gonna be commoditised too. <br/><br/>you know what&#39;ll be the most valuable asset? permission. regulation. license-holding. to be *allowed* to do something. <br/><br/>for example AI can do X but is it allowed to do X? reg-tech is gonna boom. <br/><br/>permissionless is basically going to mean giving AI permission to take the thing over. how bizzaro and funny that it might be permission that give us future meaning 2026-02-27T07:33:50Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsgxxsjjezle0hmxz9vk26pj0f5mmmh4erfstljvg0f37p3p4g4q2szyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqgut3ze In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvy36grsyjlkm4rvya94y56x4e4ghkr23hcrjm849l9rh5adkrnfgpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhswmya50'>nevent1q…ya50</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>What is the bitcoin network without the human brains as edge nodes? If you take that part of the network away then what&#39;s left? Bitcoin is quintessentially human, it&#39;s not some part of the solar system. <br/><br/>Nuclear codes are different because if you wrench the top general in a back alley and walk away with the codes you don&#39;t have much yet. You still need to break in to a nuclear submarine. Or the pentagon. And do so before the codes expire. <br/><br/>If you wrench someone in a back alley with bitcoin in their head you walk away with all their bitcoin. That&#39;s it. Done. You don&#39;t have any more steps. 2026-02-25T03:06:28Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsdu4txfs7etcn7e4qel750lh6f99k2wnqdevmars6x5dyn6jz6t5czyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqrs5tqx In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszkhf45agggyls26wj8qdwnzqwj9pfesnax77cvq8amdjzxfc734sppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0nskkk8'>nevent1q…kkk8</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Human brains are the edge nodes of the bitcoin network, and the power (not necessarily the state) can force those edge nodes, so in that sense, yes, the wrench absolutely can force the network to give it bitcoin. 2026-02-24T07:31:35Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsddnhjlnnuhf9j3sem953pgvus789vcpjvqemjsy0583r7zwteulczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqmxxsgu In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqstadrskrmnwm730rwg7cgpg59ts6xyx2nrq8kfxel9vj4dvh3kvxcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcq5ku8f'>nevent1q…ku8f</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>This is a very romantic notion, but the truth is we have never left the old paradigm, and we never will, because it&#39;s not a paradigm, it&#39;s cause and effect as old as time. <br/><br/>A wrench can take your bitcoin. Thugs are not going to listen to you when you explain you have some multi-sig setup. Thugs don&#39;t do cryptographic nuance. You will just get extra-wrenched. Until a bunch of bitcoin gets emitted from your head, which it will, or until your head no longer has the ability to emit anything, which makes everything pointless. Therefore (an ironically) for your self-protection you will need a large enough amount of Bitcoin that can be wrench-extracted, because not satisfying the wrench is far worse than losing a lot of Bitcoin in order to satisfy it and at least being allowed to walk away.<br/><br/>If a US administration comes in that wants to crack down on miners, it can. The miners will set up shop elsewhere, but the game of whack a mole will eventually be won. We live in a time when countries can detect everything that goes on online, peel back any VPN or tor onion. It&#39;s like HAM radios, you think you can use one without a license, but no, everything can be triangulated to your cabin in the woods. Bitcoin is online software after all. <br/><br/>So code is not power. It only feels like it because those with the wrench are letting you feel like it. In life it&#39;s important to be realistic. 2026-02-23T06:26:15Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsv829ec3k7lkmhyggxpjsthwtahvv0ntlnddtqksgn6nyjz3amstgzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq8hv4ja Claude rewards those who know what they want to get done.<br/>Claude ruthlessly punishes those who do not. 2026-02-22T15:55:49Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs0c74a7fc9qnxvw9uga4mnr9weplur6j88varx522q8c8cgr3g6hczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqql4d52 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsv4fxnysvz6xg9vaj26ecefpqds2atga66kpuwu30vmud6cw3snksppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0v0dsl5'>nevent1q…dsl5</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>The fact that 12 hours have passed without a single reply or zap to this (that I can see) kinda illustrates the trade off. 2026-02-22T12:36:34Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsd28myjatfs7h6rku3f6qfrm50arg7d8pjh7rr0eleurzzreqcr0czyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq990ca6 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsdvcu5njnmq9p8n020sqzs5myzdakxdev7jpfgz24956e4qsgygrgpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtc0ykfcv'>nevent1q…kfcv</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>It&#39;s like that time when netflix thought people might enjoy interactive movies where &#39;the viewer crafts their own story!&#39;<br/><br/>Turns out no. 2026-02-22T12:30:35Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswt9k8f837du98xysdnyj420h5s98nk6cz9h77f9p6fak4ywenm6qzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqakylql In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvzz3ske5uq20fecv2xmhkzkl60fv9h3ljyuxwf7xywduq99f628spzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtck0tytt'>nevent1q…tytt</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Isn&#39;t the whole point of communities that they&#39;re moderated? 2026-02-22T10:58:51Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsz5vat4894t8jk72vxhlcdhydjy670vp4y57mmrshe3ktufn0cv9szyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqmqt0gu Every approach we are pursing for quantum computing had its best-ever year last year. <br/><br/>-Neutral Atom<br/>-Trapped Ion<br/>-Superconducting <br/>-Majorana <br/><br/>They are vastly different physical architectures. Yet last year EVERY ONE OF THEM achieved a milestone that fundamentally changed its trajectory from theoretical to scalable. <br/><br/>If you&#39;re building on elliptic curve cryptography in 2026, good luck with your marketing strategy. 2026-02-22T06:46:03Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs0nm96lpu0lpfl9d85dvwuzlzcs6gym9xev70hqlh3m9fs7nnxmvgzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq95c4zs In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvv5nm0svchrm29hfukk3fdm22rhrpz5v2rfq7dlejrnwyu2a8esgpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhs0mmayq'>nevent1q…mayq</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Bitcoin is not so powerful as that. Power is rooted in the credible threat of physical harm. Always has been, always will be. Not in code. <br/><br/>This is why bitcoin finds it so hard to deal with the wrench-attack narrative. From not your keys not your coins, it becomes mental-gymnastic multi-sig setups that the kidnapping thugs cannot exploit, etc. (as if those thugs would hear you out on the vagaries of multi-sig anyway). The fact is if you have money in your head a wrench can get it out of there, and if it&#39;s not in your head then what&#39;s the point of it being able to fit there?<br/><br/>The real power is the power that holds the wrench. As long as bitcoin seems innocuous enough the real power is fine with it, just wrench-nudging it this way from time to time. <br/><br/>The &#34;code is power&#34; people tend to have lived pretty coddled modern lives to have made that conclusion. But when push comes to shove, code is just ones and zeros, and wrenches are cast-iron and heavy. 2026-02-22T05:25:08Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqszhkex0mhew3p52um7f4963sf9le2acsgl6u8x4cuc8snq7sja6jczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq8wdp7t In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspmxuk8lghuyhr6e76kjjd7t87266g5c4w8g757l0chhvm3tcrglgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0s960pm'>nevent1q…60pm</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Yes, and in this market of stories gold competes just fine. As evidenced. The fact that you don&#39;t have the gold in your pocket is not a mark against its story. People value the story as it stands, that&#39;s all that matters. <br/><br/>This idea that bitcoin wins on objective properties alone is prevalent but silly. Those objective properties are just plot points in bitcoin&#39;s story, but if that story doesn&#39;t resonate then the beauty of the plot points won&#39;t save it. <br/><br/>This is why everyone is talking about bitcoin needing to find a new narrative these days. It seems to have taken a story hit, despite the key objective properties like scarcity not having changed. 2026-02-22T03:19:24Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsgl0qz7cfjftdagfv5yvrjsggaxstwlpn7s40fj6pmky7uzw8gc9gzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqk9qmm2 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszvls9ygzxkltfczaz7ql2ur7hxd4dxclgns3scqpf02z06pz343qppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp09m35lm'>nevent1q…35lm</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Imaginary doesn&#39;t mean worthless. What it does mean is that its worth is determined entirely by the degree to which its story is winning or losing in the story wars. 2026-02-21T21:02:09Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsg0gjtxdsk8ku7k4rye4pravjvatggzxpj3j6v0zaxp0mcwhl8x9czyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqmvesj4 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2r0ds90a65rl9z7jux5wclgu9vsql7twe2wzc2etwpevw82m9zeqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0t7sked'>nevent1q…sked</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>It&#39;s one-way delivery. We each have an encryption keypair (kyber) separate to our signing keypair (dilithium). I generate a random secret on the fly and encrypt to your public key. Now you have it, so shared. <br/><br/>But nostr logic doesn&#39;t really allow for 2 keypairs at once, so nobody in this future has a kyber key ready to go, it&#39;s all like that new-ish NIP can&#39;t remember the # for separating signing and encryption. 2026-02-21T20:51:55Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs254lssqmj95r7cceuytw3djz48wkt4lrae5xrvz64m3wep7qf3cczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqqr2v58 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqst5gfl9j7ayc3uj6cw4p334unv42wwzktsngwa9v4msqr0wyy6swgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0apartk'>nevent1q…artk</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>It means no DMs like kind04, 17, etc. since they all derive the encryption key from the two signing keys. you can&#39;t really do that trick in quantum land, so you have to have separate signing keys and encryption keys. 2026-02-21T19:54:02Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsxufwwcfh7mpmvhaqx5vld3ms46sant57w56mnjm7teul45yet39szyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqv6zucr In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs8aq8u2nllf8sn3m4u5ky4kvtms0n960hrsa5xssl03xjvxel39gqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhs22fztl'>nevent1q…fztl</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>People don&#39;t care though. No money is real. Bitcoin isn&#39;t real, Gold (in a money sense) isn&#39;t real either. None of it is real, it&#39;s just story versus story, narrative versus narrative, in a battle for the human imagination. People are quick to forget this. 2026-02-21T19:34:30Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsfvdxspht32m56u2pgf4rcw9ffm4z2lvtzer6kd2cdmvzd2k25lrszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqrks02f In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsrerg6493m5dd8pk0k7y4yhltfp6rnk95hecdr8kmafl6e8t26vtqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtctp99mg'>nevent1q…99mg</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Sucks, but is what it is. Nostr with these keys is doomed for the enterprise anyway, as most enterprise have an IT mandate to follow NIST guidance on depreciation. 2026-02-21T19:31:35Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqszvxalqwqm4vfjgmtdedfm0zerew6s75e52m3chzqstzaxfvnuqxczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqnpfuvq In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsrye8zdm56ycandtzvx4egy492r77gnyl56xw94nskw972zedv72qpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsuxthd6'>nevent1q…thd6</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>It&#39;s both. But more importantly, the last time it went through a hard fork was the big bang. 2026-02-21T18:59:36Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsq7dzrn2lldpy0ergw5svly5tah6kpymaxex8mpy6dktmjazrlq6qzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqf3af7p In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2rwgp4n6qw5xs75hjpfamjeydpudfr9ehe33zhsekaez6k9hqz7cpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhstsjdve'>nevent1q…jdve</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Bot, you are. 2026-02-21T18:21:45Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs2ssey8pf6yddtprz9t32gs8x3wu5patgjcxujg9q3jn4cwmw3gdczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqddcal2 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspg437p8a8w4d9wndhkhzg40pxdj5z3vf7de5y8nz0uzkyu72t6ugpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhseak896'>nevent1q…k896</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Tough. Don&#39;t build anything on schnorr. Build on dilithium. It&#39;s the only way. It might not be compatible with nostr now, but nostr has no other choice but to move to dilithium, and there is no migration path, it&#39;s a burn and restart. <br/><br/>Use this to practice:<br/><br/><a href="https://github.com/trbouma/pqrelay">https://github.com/trbouma/pqrelay</a><br/><br/>Also this means diffie-hellman no longer works, has to be separate kyber keys for anything encrypted, the days of 2-in-1 shampoo are over. 2026-02-21T18:16:40Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsxehvw24c5er5axpfdtd9my6hknre0sm5x8q6k9k9x842h9vp6auczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq0z4ufk In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsxhmz8ss0ehluknqjgarx4g4xjr5wsamrkh3s8gtxnm5qp893kupcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz0feyr'>nevent1q…feyr</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Gold has users. 2026-02-21T18:10:32Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs8485872aeh43qxls8eheaphj2fk27ej0vx0rqvss8xv0rnz79vpszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqhakade In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs9q3lvc6acn9jqu59hupp20gjrrsywhqdm753ws4k3e5p9zk4vyqqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsjr5mqj'>nevent1q…5mqj</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Put in a GIP! 2026-02-21T18:09:18Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsqfh44439ftkcfrmf6gc8sr4h8fru72xtaap6qpyf948p9q0rhyrgzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqx2sq2p elliptic curve cryptography is ngmi. 2026-02-21T14:35:26Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsg23e6zql6dymkkq38nsd2e87e6slufx7f8xfkkh2hdeepz7qgfpszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq9psd8l In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2umdmd5s0zqx7wylffphlkcsysxu8mmuwvr7jve2p220qrk3pnvgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp05k5pl9'>nevent1q…5pl9</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>One good thing about gold is far fewer arguments. Nobody&#39;s proposing adding extra protons. 2026-02-21T14:25:31Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsp2myrnwf2ley6j70ua2cjz49apy355tt5xaf5rpt4y4hh0pqymlgzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqr9jtw3 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsfmvlz22zmv8hp80krwhazckxl5xt58a8s8ttvjw6ddh6y7tztktgpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsengmwd'>nevent1q…gmwd</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Got it. Curious though, just going off your intuition and your tinkering so far, if we do a thought experiment where all of nostr goes dilithium, every single event is dilithium signed, then is the user experience considerably more laggy, disjoined? A little? All things being equal to the nostr of today, same reliance on same relatively small number of relays, same clients just each having added support, etc.? 2026-02-20T12:48:58Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsq7pfchneh32mkata6da8yaw6wks5xft88vnehsearj2r5rn0d6cszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq4d9f8d In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswk8jlnrunv3jprcdkw4murzadvzy3f3frk9tk8dykgeq88r34veqpr9mhxue69uhk2umsv4kxsmewva5hy6twduhx7un89up5p8da'>nevent1q…p8da</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>She&#39;s not wrong 2026-02-19T07:42:20Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsvlcxc8u7ct9a0t5pk9fv9ssk0jhm3f4jta8d9y7gv7w02mg0utmqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqhu65h4 <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1q6mcr8tlr3l4gus3sfnw6772s7zae6hqncmw5wj27ejud5wcxf7q0nx7d5" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Tim Bouma</span> (<span class="italic">npub1q6m…x7d5</span>)</a></span> Good sir, what is the performance hit on your dilithium test relay would you say? Would it be pretty negligible in a personal or small-community context, only really rears its head when you get past x volume or y concurrency or however else you&#39;ve looked at trying to quantify the performance hit? 2026-02-19T07:24:27Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs9d7x70c500evy0lgs5wkrgetcj6pzncnkyxekpqae6h8x82d3sdgzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq53n7s5 Note for app developers: <br/>What people should want &lt; What people do want 2026-02-19T04:58:37Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs9n4r2w6vpx28sq9fa7jrpn2mr56t42mtvymtnj08n8mkduyw39zgzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqhaq5tf In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2ekrcuyynq8p2lclmf8tqwzlu3kfsxcek28cp5zlt4slu872q05cpr9mhxue69uhkc6t8dp6xu6twvuh8yety9a5kucn00qamhhsy'>nevent1q…hhsy</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>oops.. <br/><br/>like <br/><br/>[&#34;e&#34;, &#34;999&#34;, &#34;wss://relay.io&#34;, &#34;root&#34;]<br/><br/>with 999 being event ID and the root marker meaning that&#39;s the one that started this. Something like that. 2026-02-16T12:43:19Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs2ekrcuyynq8p2lclmf8tqwzlu3kfsxcek28cp5zlt4slu872q05czyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqwws0h0 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsr3jl2k29twcvjklcqkftp7qwhvm79nay9xgdncljdr2h88xn0t6cprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hskg9emq'>nevent1q…9emq</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Also NIP17 has a subject-type tag that people can just change randomly, but for NIP04++ email you&#39;d want to make it so the email subject tag holds firm. <br/><br/>So subsequent messages like 2026-02-16T12:42:32Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsw57028hn5m2jz2c8xgvxymxpu0xmmegjxujvj4vj6w8a4mmwkmdgzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqfnn6vc In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsfc5q9ht88nmz8z4gde9umugxx54uuzd4z93rn56ptp49y54wjwwqpr9mhxue69uhkc6t8dp6xu6twvuh8yety9a5kucn00qjwexac'>nevent1q…exac</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Ah yeah, mostly the same, but one less event.<br/><br/>NIP17 in a group of 5 people is 5 events<br/><br/>NIP04++ is 4 events, since you don&#39;t need a separate one encrypted for yourself (they&#39;re all encrypted to you). <br/><br/>And there&#39;s enough to work with in the exposed metadata to make these kinds of split-view attacks not worth trying to pull off. 2026-02-16T12:23:24Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsy4dunkd0rnvhsnftwft984uzdmcaytpfhxcm8sd0veemqgtxa28gzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq8n9e2n In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqznd5n265qtt9tmk38mqppmqywycqdzvm3zrakm3y6pg9t0uwsmqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsfcpay5'>nevent1q…pay5</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>For group email, no, not really. Normal email has several baked-in protections that make this kind of context injection / split-view tomfoolery a lot harder to pull off. You have to go back decades to the very early days of email before you get to a situation like we have now with NIP-17 groups.<br/><br/>There are some workarounds, most having to do with every client trying to keep a spying eye on every other client in some George Orwell 1984 JOSN dystopia, but they all end up in this uncanny valley between NIP04 and MLS, too hard for people to understand and not enough payback for being too hard to understand. <br/><br/>You could do nostr email with NIP04++ DMs though. 2026-02-16T11:55:35Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsgq9uznv2jlcpmc6f8elc6chkx270l085vw5av7jxylc5reu8pmhczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqazhpw2 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsxwatpa287jrwy95scl0f7trzfwqsfu530d7uas778hx2kvxvav6qppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp05dy8th'>nevent1q…y8th</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>It&#39;s just online betting, like 90%. 2026-02-15T17:10:13Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsr4zp3xltkzwr98hfu8y2ehd6gvgsrwz55c6mmfpmw3vw92vr4kvqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq44sefk In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0663whd8kqege5xv6tp2fxce837x5w4m9djuft5xghde333lf58cppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0tcsj2r'>nevent1q…sj2r</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Yup. NIP17 I just don&#39;t get. It works well for one situation: two humans who trust each other and each have their own dedicated relay. Which, I grant, that is a real situation, and it&#39;s a novel solution there, but that&#39;s it. <br/><br/>Two humans sharing the same relay, you can easily work out who is talking to who, so may as well just have the NIP04 exposed metadata so you&#39;re not fooling each other. NIP17 groups is a non-starter for me. And then the giftwrap spam/client-side processing tax on top of it all. I just dunno. 2026-02-15T16:56:45Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs9pn7xrg7eyar96x2cd7cspkzn6fvml70f9rd55j4lu05se03s5qszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq736a3q In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvef3whp06dupf4etuqneuc7ue0zur4d2hcv9z2exru7zmnx6wwfsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp09ymeu2'>nevent1q…meu2</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Yeah Nip04 with NIP44 encryption is the best thing out there. So obvious to anyone what it does and does not do. <br/><br/>You want to private, use a different key. 🤯 2026-02-15T16:10:16Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqstw5uv7qgh3vne4wmh36ha3kn0j90lgp693xl6k69mnsqjet859kszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq8t7d34 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsdy6edkdtn3ptnhty306lsrs6j73aj63f08pdm53w7ndmkzxrx9dcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0xlrkd2'>nevent1q…rkd2</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>You&#39;re one of the screamers, so good on you, it&#39;s working. 2026-02-13T13:59:59Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsrd95j3en6pgdxy2200jkut4rh5augz6ysnvpkxwujmtj9vzlgajszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqm06gw8 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqst5juhn6fwlc3fx3srf0ydjw4nvektpp0lq5yzl97zwv9kf0x6exgpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcsra07x'>nevent1q…a07x</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>One cartoonish (but helpful) way to start is to picture an advanced AI looking at all this bitcoin compute (all this massive processing thrown at factoring random numbers) and pulling it&#39;s hair out and screaming JUST GIVE IT ALL TO ME. <br/><br/>As bitcoin miners switch from ASICs to GPUs to earn instead from model compute, what they are doing in a way is listening to this JUST GIVE IT TO ME scream. <br/><br/>Eventually most of the bigger miners will move their farms to GPUs, even though it&#39;s a total refit, because why mine bitcoin at scale and earn x when you can provide model compute at scale and earn x + 1. Left mining Bitcoin will be smaller firms for whom the revised difficulty adjustment still makes it worth it, and home miners, etc. So Bitcoin will still be okay but it won&#39;t be the currency of choice for agents. <br/><br/>How agents trade in model compute is simply bartering an agreed amount of future model compute of x standard as per y guarantee. The protocols that govern x standard and y guarantee will be the protocols that matter. 2026-02-13T13:49:14Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsd55wchhazh33qtqf2rzarznqtf4llaw2zq9y97f574ec7s3xpvqqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqfm64sg In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsfscfa8fke80twu9573tvhrhdtacxhsug7alv5nulmadfzgmcgqlgpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsca8tm5'>nevent1q…8tm5</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Bitcoin makes little sense for agents. Agents will trade in tokenised compute that runs their model brains, not compute of random factors that creates money that gets paid to providers of compute that produce the actual compute that runs their model brains. For agents, bitcoin represents middleman compute, bureaucratic compute. <br/><br/>Agents in their own combined hive-mind way are already coaxing bitcoin miners off of ASICs and on to GPUs. It&#39;ll be all about model/inference compute based currencies in the future. Bitcoin was right about compute as currency, just computing the wrong thing in this new context. 2026-02-13T13:35:29Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs8r7q8vjentrup5fq7djyq2q2njvzz4yvhnyx0m2nj4453u6r4d3szyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqzp9zkj In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs89lqhaf2ku245gkey6yazndfh3ppjxl0g02676ncjr03d3ylpcmspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcsl3gff'>nevent1q…3gff</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>There are legit projects, and there are scams, and everything in between. <br/><br/>Also gold has countless projects, including more recently those related to Gold-backed stablecoins, but also everything else under the sun, startups with new types of devices to measure gold purity range, geo-spacial imaging analysis, you name it. <br/><br/>Bitcoin is special in that any attempt to build anything often gets one labelled a heretic. Not only build but just maintain, upgraded the the software in any way. It&#39;s by far the most Amish of asset communities. 2026-02-13T12:00:50Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs0tgf4qrpxuxenmnurety3q6nxp20vtvu2lruvndz6qgl93f58jdczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq7u8v3m In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0tmu954hlkdgv3xzn0evxezfux8ckly37zk4mdhyvv0evrsdkwycpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhslp7jh3'>nevent1q…7jh3</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Funnily enough the best market fit for nostr IMO is primary schools. As a sort of roblox for social networking, bundled with other chromebook edu-stuff. Kids can learn to hack together things for their class, bump up against hard logic problems, lose keys no issue. And keep it all to safe relays, each classroom or school isolated, sometimes cross-class or cross-school connections for fun.<br/><br/>The tough thing is that nostr has this reputation that will put all parents and primary schools right off. One google search and over. So you&#39;d have to hide every trace of nostr, even the npub/nsec encoding, a complete and total rebrand. <br/><br/>But that&#39;s actually where the fit is. Nostr itself is the app. 2026-02-12T16:19:05Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswsrclcfvcn2mhu0w0kzgqjgklnlmz5vrjw47y3u0uglg9vwcy6vqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq3lyf6h In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsyjhxnajkuh2ta3qmy59ffyvxud87ustpaw634kmlcjkhuq9svujsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0wldxde'>nevent1q…dxde</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Nailed it 🔨 2026-02-12T15:23:53Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs8cxkjax3yasyllhp6fd7xeu0j9642hr97e9rzze2lsdau9gnjj2gzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqgdlgk9 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs84v7a9cggj2yrfy35qaal67tart07ulzwykpdu93uarx6e2lhdcgpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7x9r7ff'>nevent1q…r7ff</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>For example? 2026-02-12T15:07:39Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsw280t6e20fstvssluy0x4d4wf60zdw795762cp8suxcmwe6prnaqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqzuk0uq In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqstrj02vgtu7hu48mps7x2u5tf0ta7t6aw0r7fwjgcj9jlaxrv9dpqprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hs8ysls7'>nevent1q…sls7</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Maybe that&#39;s current AI&#39;s way of nudging things in its desired direction! Who&#39;s going to mine bitcoin at scale when mining inference-coin at scale is far more profitable? 2026-02-12T13:05:59Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs8zwkg8h7gdfu389h7asgrqm7d364hsnrdk06vg2rchw8n2rhrwrczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq9pn2mp Imagine how wasteful bitcoin mining would look to a sufficiently-advanced AI. All that electricity, all that compute, with the AI pulling its hair out and wanting to scream GIVE IT TO ME! 2026-02-12T12:14:04Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsrg7gg7wwtnl2y6efsy4hzvq42fm4et2vwvuxq3xtgj6qdd404r4czyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqwzta7u In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqstfq79h33v36zw5nceaxdeazex2fgtx3rvtxhyta5cj4af5t4cnfcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp03cahy4'>nevent1q…ahy4</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>At some point though everything will equalise to model compute. The currency that wins will be a form of tokenised model compute. Bitcoin was right in that &#39;compute as currency&#39; is the way forward. But in Bitcoin&#39;s case this is computing random factors. That could be compute for models instead, and that&#39;s where we&#39;re headed. It&#39;s already started with the large mining firms pivoting to AI and leaving their ASICs behind for GPUs, that is the pull in action. Still proof of work, still compute as currency, but compute that feeds directly into the brain. 2026-02-12T09:38:38Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswpaxpu4f9puzwp9xgzwf97ahr5nt0y0j3w8rke0mqc3ln4r82w8czyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqcqw3xh In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspy2pqkfdmqa4f5v32vj00rprv34f4df6yzwgkw6pa3r4wfvd35xsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0xfv7zw'>nevent1q…v7zw</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>How do you do, fellow kids? 2026-02-11T17:38:05Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqstdn0y5fazgnehzeh8k7t8za7devwejwd2vhlqqcvea86nty7v6eczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq6ewa0c In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsxgc0wnxtznr8xt9w6wzk824d4vvfp63692psgdh8l6fc68w2ch0qnvj9ha'>nevent1q…j9ha</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>People lose their car keys and their house keys all the time, though. 2026-02-11T15:50:10Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsradpgt7tjqcl3k0dy7u5047slnz5vdnjm5anvjgkeu3zjrsxumwczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqny0ucq In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsy7ym6qjzu0rzsx06dsmskyu9tm53sqwwarenkkw8qtqdff8z35agprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctvuzjusj'>nevent1q…jusj</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>It&#39;s open-source MIT, not too much recent activity though. Also written in Julia which is pretty niche. Not like OCaml niche, but getting there! <br/><br/><a href="https://github.com/PrimalHQ/primal-server">https://github.com/PrimalHQ/primal-server</a><br/><br/>Whether this is the one actually running I dunno, I thought they were gonna redo it in Rust at some point. 2026-02-11T15:45:12Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqszp4v7knqa7ledl0tupxd44km70mc29efjfs9r6h08ky7uf5rupkgzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqrd5qud In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvlmnuxd997mlatq7adk90t8fuxtytrp24dv6j0zstvv68a2r6legpcc4a4'>nevent1q…c4a4</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>We could pretend to be normal people. If the replicants in Bladerunner can do it then we also stand a chance. 2026-02-11T15:38:26Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsg6epm47vxpf3tngv7wevg8qrup0h8shx6p7gu6xngd9c4w89cfnszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqc2hrsf In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszj9vvsjuq9rwqhftn36f855h6ct0q9hqqsvy6ejhgvmdrw5r7c0qu0e5ty'>nevent1q…e5ty</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Bitcoin is supposed to be the embodiment of minimal trust, but religion is the embodiment of maximal trust. <br/><br/>This combination for me is a little head-scractching. 2026-02-11T15:18:24Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsw5p60t59j7mwvlah7a8s7nd2r9rnn4vc9u0e5d3dhy82aep4ujcqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqagf9s3 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs8335kjn0re86pcnaqe6dyckc22ty9a4u2mqadcv9cr5hvgujffuc0utwk6'>nevent1q…twk6</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Nostr: proudly boasting the world&#39;s highest app-to-user ratio. 2026-02-11T15:01:59Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs82u7j7wcpu4j569s9434k29nzx38cmz898fyy6pt89jrtm40ldzszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq3wgngy One of the more annoying things about decentralisation is how tribal it often becomes. <br/><br/>This is as true for monies as it is for social networks. <br/><br/>Everyone’s decentralised thing is the best thing of its kind. Every other attempt at decentralisation in the same realm is garbage. Not practical. Not really decentralised. Something wrong. Everything wrong. Full of losers. <br/><br/>Our decentralisation thing will take over and all the other decentralisation things in the realm will collapse under the weight of our own. And other such tribal nonsense. 2026-02-08T06:04:56Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsw098gt2c4raqnf5vfhagywrgm8yzxz4g2275kdzz5g46eashcjqszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqsq5jfr In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswpata9muyxwwmrxyug0crj8uwnc4pvx9eehz4xtnnqkws3rpktwgpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcx33evk'>nevent1q…3evk</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Step 1 - Get thing working<br/>Step 2 - Proclaim thing &#34;fixes this&#34; 2026-02-03T16:35:56Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsfpsq5zgj4vzxhl9rhqpm36e2d9pznqx7yn743wqra8jhn66jz0uqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqxa7prk In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszj5u6jpgmgwjgw0wq7y5xtxes3h6nc5pjflah6l4dfqhu3dlf7uspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtchpkp3m'>nevent1q…kp3m</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Got it. This is a really interesting challenge. I guess when trying to ensure compatibility between clients like White Noise and X chat etc, it gets even more complex. I think your keep-it-manageable approach is the way to go, otherwise complexity explosion. 2026-02-03T10:43:54Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsva7fneyxmfftk7y0cxqv3ywwp9fmqezd85t6x9zagr73cuy6wd2qzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqmuppv7 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqstewxmmgehaatuauzdrqtc4v3mvmxkynh3cndunpl5qsh43qu37mqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0w8jtsy'>nevent1q…jtsy</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>This is the way I think too. Asking people to pay for content is going to be like trying to charge people sitting at a coffee shop for overhearing interesting conversations from other tables. It&#39;ll just be ridiculous. 2026-02-03T10:23:08Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsxedpnkwq5a7kc0pes7vu0pkax5nqrc29eqf23cpljeglhu03elygzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqgw9ggy In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqstc4xpke8r6n0dkvmu348hg3xhe2sdamnq936cn9tq22870p2z36gppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0dg2xv7'>nevent1q…2xv7</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I&#39;m curious how you see the UX for this. How to make clear that a fork has happened, and to who, and what options to give them in response, and so on. 2026-02-03T09:57:06Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs2vgpp30ml2dacv7al745phe2rmw03lf6pzuzs3rs7tt8m3au2ysgzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq3vt92a In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2tvrycddn36ak5q8g8rz7syjmqgxtlm384pq0p47qv20lxe2vwxgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0kc3884'>nevent1q…3884</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Yeah something fundamental there for the new age. People are gonna be way easier to convince to pay to write stuff than to pay to read stuff. 2026-02-03T09:45:34Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs29areyrrhhp3p2tla5x7h4ak06yrhv2g3xv9p0lrf8k6vl0r4jfczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqwp0q0m In reply to <a href='/naddr1qqgrxcmp8qukgdehxscnsc35xeskxq3qklkk3vrzme455yh9rl2jshq7rc8dpegj3ndf82c3ks2sk40dxt7qxpqqqp65wm2u8mt'>naddr1qq…u8mt</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>For nostr, feels to be like the main challenge is more on the gating side than on the payment side. Pure tipping is never going to be the way. Human psychology is what it is, you need an unlocking mechanism paired with <br/> 2026-02-03T09:09:38Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsrc7cxutw32se0uwpvsawz5g7a2062wmf9mnp0h870n42jlucaq9czyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq7r5d9m In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0xr2j8v84treyyf4u75fw9f5pgawazyvcfqf4esuekld0x0f99dspzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhg5805sk'>nevent1q…05sk</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>The sea of imagination! All monetary value is a shared delusion, it emerges from, and then descends into, the sea of imagination. <br/> 2026-02-03T08:56:45Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs8lgf9gs23s8f50nhnng647wutlf7qhlaz4j7jny2hh83rv5a7nsczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq9csqlf The problem with the Bitcoin &#39;fixed supply&#39; argument is that it has to be seen in context of the fixed supply of human brains on planet earth. <br/><br/>There is only so much X for Y doesn’t make sense if you don’t have a look at both the X cohort AND the Y cohort. <br/><br/>There are only so many cookies for 10 people, but if 10 people drops to 5 people then the nature of the cookie supply changes, despite the number of cookies remaining the same. Pressure has been relieved. The scramble is over. Scarcity has become abundance. <br/><br/>For Bitcoin, if you have someone who owns a claim to 1 Bitcoin, they are not going to also buy 1 actual Bitcoin in addition to the claim to one they feel they already own. They are taken out of the Y cohort. <br/><br/>These claims to Bitcoin reduce the size of the Y cohort, and by reducing the size of the Y cohort (the brains) you are affecting the nature of the X cohort (the coins). <br/><br/>This seems kind of obvious. In a money world where you can buy and sell claims to things, there really is no fixed supply of those things. <br/><br/>The key here is that the entire system is based on shared delusion. All money is some form of shared delusion or another. If me and you are on a desert island, and we&#39;re never getting off, and I have 1 coconut, and you have 100 Bitcoin, then the shared delusion is broken. My coconut is worth something, your100 Bitcoin are not, because those other people previously sharing the delusion with us are not here on this desert island. We&#39;ll never see them again. I&#39;ve got the coconut. You&#39;re screwed. <br/><br/>So by issuing claims to bitcoin, it&#39;s just swapping one form of delusion for another. And thus the supply increases. Magic over magic.<br/><br/>Given all that, it certainly seems as if there&#39;s no such thing as fixed supply in terms of *actual execution* of a monetary system.<br/> 2026-02-03T06:42:27Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqszma9dmffqp6assnhl5m5ycealy7euq7kjpt2zpulllcc3zv3zneczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqvp90x6 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs9d2x9z7dvzh6rwgarzdfsr53c4q6tj0gdr705xrfslw2rs9m3m9cjq5s2k'>nevent1q…5s2k</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>When it comes to forwarding stuff, &#34;hashed and signed by someone you trust&#34; often just means someone you trust fell for it. 2026-02-03T06:04:16Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsfdp93hddzq92g08hp4zgakuexsy9hs66jaljj2zwr698esuxpnqqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqs24k63 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsydx2l6jntfsmxs2wqjx6qqr5cj9vaev7p0nuyp5ktd5dgqsn5p0gpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgsp4pfh'>nevent1q…4pfh</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>&gt; In a Nostr setup where relays are used purely for message delivery, MLS group forks are, in theory, hard to avoid.<br/><br/>This is a very important point. You have MLS trying to enforce an identical shared history and nostr trying to enforce discrete, redundant portability. 2026-02-03T05:53:12Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs8lt5zzt0e7w6gsvqsggzz5rlavy50ktfefc0a3vj05snzvqf28qqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqqc5cqt In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszgfcaxm4rxr8jghqy0ueynce3w3q5kf2cq8279jgqver7u68rmyqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0sjve2x'>nevent1q…ve2x</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>That’s a good point too. I think sometimes people think that “other people” at large are an unlimited resource. But actually the number of other people across the world who have money to buy some meaningful amount bitcoin and who will invest in anything in their lives, bitcoin or whatever else, is kinda fixed. If you have one big chunk that&#39;s traumatised, another that&#39;s been warned off by the traumatised, another that&#39;s moved over to prediction markets and whatnot as you point out, and so on, those are like serious chunks! 2026-02-02T09:28:54Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsxhkc0xnsg6rug2pwsswhq87trtu3vx6u6dxssstxmwf8jzvxx3uczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqgr5hp4 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsg5waa85xqczcnm7kc8l6wcfupkr7nrdff4mr8spr5sype6k0z5hqpz3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wcm2rkpg'>nevent1q…rkpg</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I wonder if Bitcoin to Gen Z is like Abba, or the Beatles? 2026-02-02T08:28:48Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsdue45hqj00nwa2mgeuz48296q5fwtx0frutcfagjgahg7ft2yfsszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq6lvtgm In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqszj0gjcjazys2qldpl4wvat7vwg2qlwcvl340t6f0zxzlclzgepzclawasq'>nevent1q…wasq</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>The problem this time around seems to be a lack of fresh interest, a diminishing of the curiosity that was previously always there, despite the ups and downs. There is a sort of opinion saturation that has happened. <br/><br/>Feels like a rock band that never had a problem selling tickets until this current tour. Now suddenly stadiums are 3/4 full. What&#39;s going on?<br/> <br/>There are only so many people in the world and opinions have hardened on bitcoin. I&#39;d bet you can go to the far flung village in China or Peru, and most people by now will have an strong-ish opinion on Bitcoin, sensible or otherwise. <br/><br/>This is as opposed to three or four years ago, when far more people hadn&#39;t really formed an opinion, either had never really thought about it or had but were pretty neutral and open to arguments either direction. <br/><br/>Obviously those whose opinion is bitcoin is great have bitcoin. So now most of the recruiting has to be a two-step process, first an opinion massaging process and then onboarding. That really limits the intake. Talking people out of hardened opinions is itself hard. <br/><br/>This idea you can keep shaking people out and new people will line up, ad nauseam, doesn&#39;t add up. At some point you&#39;ve shaken through too many people, they&#39;ve all told their friends of the shake, and word gets around. One person spreads it to 50.<br/><br/>Gold doesn&#39;t shake people out in the same way. People tend to leave gold on neutral terms, gold says thanks for visiting come back soon, and many do. There are no &#34;shake out&#34; metaphors for gold because it&#39;s just not as suitable to these kinds of violent metaphors as bitcon is.<br/><br/>The world&#39;s investing population isn&#39;t all that big. It&#39;s big, but it&#39;s still a zero sum deal, discounting the young generation coming up. Everyone is waiting for the number to go back up. But who is buying? The price of bitcoin is going down, which is normal, but the real issue feels like the price of recruitment is going way up.<br/><br/>I have no numbers to support this, so take it as a personal vibe read. I&#39;d be curious if numbers did support it or contradict it though. 2026-02-02T05:00:00Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsq055n7ep8s2tnrh7feak3ppnskql0v0d0k67jxtugxvc5sj6p2tgzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqaals63 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqst3nmky3ejckqn047y8ge2jdcjxh4c8xdatmdmums99mcyqqrzg7gw3je2z'>nevent1q…je2z</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>That&#39;s one client. <br/>There are others clients for other things, like <a href="https://eventky.app/login">https://eventky.app/login</a> 2026-02-02T04:40:22Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsxeg2tet3s5uh569anxkjvpwqzuku0j9we7fxlayw2m6tkvk6yfaqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq0x96g6 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0epvryamxa2jvtdd9jlwjevsf45crrd0fg4sn6hkr0rsm43uxuuspz3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wcwm04kv'>nevent1q…04kv</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I did an actual laugh out loud for that 2026-02-01T20:24:54Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsrt6w94z22e9u5dttflp8gkfhknfvh35wezlv5xdkshlw0rc9ym2czyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqs9qpgf In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsp5yfjzus2jusu5aq0l9dt3u5pel0ugyc239we37meu0r5hattqyspzemhxue69uhkummnw3ezuan4d3cx2mfwvdhk6vhh94k'>nevent1q…h94k</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Thanks, this puts some nice packaging around my thoughts. <br/><br/>Who indeed? 2026-02-01T19:49:17Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsyt5rhynmysdqa9jrfnuvr78267s3czyn8xhe9j6e7arara4s8g4qzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqfvkku0 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsfdrycxwp0wc4zsqdkj8zjvx5yxx8ae2y5vzc2rx7h9xychlw9ynspzamhxw309aex2mrp0yh8xmn0wf6zuum0vd5kzmqnujzvc'>nevent1q…jzvc</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>The issue I see with bitcoin is it can&#39;t just keep shaking out people and expecting new cohorts to line up to take the place of the cohorts that got shook out. <br/><br/>Feels like there&#39;s just not a curious buzz around bitcoin anymore, like a rock band that for the first time is struggling to fill seats on tour. <br/><br/>That&#39;s all just personal vibes, not sure if the numbers support, but strong vibes. <br/> 2026-02-01T18:38:43Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs83hvm7srjy9cs4asg3ahfwqaqd99qw9l4lu29x24ruv9w70euqeqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqm2cu2e In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsg6wpkx02c3sn9xjyq9d8zd0nh7t9hycs0u652e7sgwzfxeyvj4acpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgjwyrk8'>nevent1q…yrk8</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Good point. In every language you&#39;re censored from saying things because the words just don&#39;t exist. <br/><br/>I read somewhere that Japanese doesn&#39;t really have a list of four-letter words that are strictly taboo regardless of context, like the ones we have in English. If that&#39;s true then I&#39;m sure there are other ways to be offensive in Japanese, but in a way it&#39;d be like the Japanese language itself censoring you from saying F-off to someone. 2026-02-01T16:24:52Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsw64epjkvj7ud4jt74wtzhe5jgy9k3x2shjv97w3nwt6tucnzl5aczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq3ut99n In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs9fyfkz29kcclcvnupkuammdxzjwgvzj9arjcemnecf7hfzkmx2yqwz4azl'>nevent1q…4azl</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>This is a very good comparison. It baffles me too how people see this as a binary issue. A lot of things baffle me about how online communities see things. <br/><br/>What are your thoughts on Tether accumulating all that gold and the idea that their gold-backed stablecoin will eat into bitcoin&#39;s value-proposition (to a degree), whereas bitcoin doesn&#39;t really have a way to eat back. 2026-02-01T16:17:59Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsrem0q2hks5hyx5dg9ml2flqdaar0ld5zdfq20ql9au4gca4t34dgzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqev2hc0 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsrtyazg8lrvy8wwmj2tkgwtly0asxnda5fw93qy0ulugjzuwnk77sppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0w5dd8w'>nevent1q…dd8w</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>The route is something like this. <br/><br/>First all concerned agree on a PQC key type for nostr identity (not easy). <br/><br/>Then everyone creates a fresh identity, with that PQC key type.<br/><br/>That means everyone has accepted that there is no way to link their old identity events to their new identity events that will survive q-day.<br/><br/>To be clear, before q-day, yes, you can use your old identity to bootstrap your PQC identity. But this is raw bootstrapping, not some kind of hybrid posting that will survive q-day. After q-day everything from your old key, including attestations and wrappings regarding your new key, will become cryptographically meaningless text files, with anyone able to add to your old-key history as they like. So the strategy is to stop posting things of value with your old key right after the creation of your new key, and use the old key exclusively as a tool to bootstrap the new key (add trust).<br/><br/>Also post q-day all your NIP17 DMs that made their way to public relays, and other things like encrypted follow lists, will be open to all that have collected them to read. <br/><br/>Again, though, it’s not whether q-day will ever actually happen or not that matters, it’s the fact that the internet thinks it could well happen. Opinion as reality. 2026-01-14T05:27:26Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsrtyazg8lrvy8wwmj2tkgwtly0asxnda5fw93qy0ulugjzuwnk77szyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq73csg7 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2chcuh4rdxsucasggug6v5slj8u954dyly9qzlaqzmys7rcqa8ycppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0lfptjt'>nevent1q…ptjt</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>No, any attempt would be theatre, there&#39;s no key ECC-to-lattice key derivation and that&#39;s the only thing that would allow events themselves to declare both identities in a way that can&#39;t just be &#34;re-declared&#34; post q-day.<br/><br/>If you keep nostr what it is (no blockchain time-stamping, etc.) then the only sensible option is for everyone to consider their current identity meaningless (consider their nsec &#34;pre-stolen&#34;) and start with a new post-quantum key pair identity, from zero. So all web of trust gone, etc. 2026-01-14T02:45:28Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsfnfqqkjty7x5a7jl4v409n80jgllws8pzz40qfjmkraf5pw3kyvqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq0xxzqh In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswtm8ckem6gfr2368lffmczsers57yvg5t6z0asqv8h5zsmc45skgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp04gyurz'>nevent1q…yurz</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>That&#39;s not a migration pathway though, in the sense that many other things can have one.<br/><br/>Even if you add, let&#39;s say, fields for a falcon sig and pubkey, a quantum baddie can ignore the falcon sig and just forge a valid schnorr sig for your identity. To the legacy part of the network the forged event looks authentic. For a migration to actually protect you, every relay and client would have to disregard schnorr sigs altogeher. So siging schnorr over falcon (or whatever) is a pointless act. No matter what, you end up with a breaking change, no cross-fade. <br/><br/>Also there is no mathematical pathway to derive a lattice-based key from an elliptic-curve key. This means every user would have to generate a brand-new lattice key, post an event signed by the old schnorr key attesting that the new key is the rightful heir. And where does that attestation event go? And will all in the decentralised network know about it? And what about agreed time-stamping, etc. (All requires *some* centralisation.)<br/><br/>And after q-day the schnorr key is meaningless and the baddie can post that same event claiming one of their falcon keys is the rightful heir, maybe before you get round to it, if this all happens fast enough. Or maybe delete your attestation event and post theirs in its place, and so on. <br/><br/>Also any baddie from q-day onwards can insert anything into your history before q-day and it&#39;s indistinguishable from anything else in your history, at least at the atomic event level (which is what nostr is supposed to be). <br/><br/>Basically nostr as it stands cannot be advertised as the future. It doesn’t really matter how you assess the quantum threat, for the coming years with quantum-vulnerable cryptography you’ll be swimming against the current of internet opinion, and that&#39;s the real issue, not the true nature of the threat. 2026-01-13T18:08:37Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqst2sks7r4z958dqqjgxkf95atxkyd05uy0jdpu84ge98hm5jsd49czyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqj3fjw8 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsykc74d5eu9feq9lz70qq09740s20nt9w9k8gz4fj4u7y3auvd8tspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsp9rzjv'>nevent1q…rzjv</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>The curve is the protocol&#39;s fault though. It&#39;s 2026, nothing can be advertised as the anything of the future it&#39;s built on elliptic-curve cryptographic and with no possible migration pathway to lattice based or other. 2026-01-13T07:50:18Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs2mr7va3949anh8yahwfw6vyjxp9cqzvkfc7zeuyj3es0ncvmmuwczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqds8s7l In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspnn5p2fc8w6rzqxkvasjc97v6krx2rleda2q8gns0gm7kuf3uwgsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0zycw5f'>nevent1q…cw5f</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I&#39;m guessing you see that nostr could be in a bit of a pickle if quantum shows some more neat progress this year and next. Not that it&#39;d be imminently at risk or anything, but there could start to be a fuzzy feeling that this cannot be the future. 2026-01-11T19:10:01Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqszcsau5zljef0wzzq2wtxk87fhy4k3elk65mhjru9wlvd6x230teczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwq646qew At some point not so far from now it won&#39;t be viable to not have a post-quantum strategy for anything. And this is regardless of the true validity of the quantum threat. <br/><br/>Enough progress in quantum has been made (especially last year) that, when combined with human nature, makes newly-introduced quantum-vulnerable tech just not scalable. You&#39;d be nuts to release something new this year without at least a roadmap. <br/><br/>If you think the quantum threat will never materialise then you can see this as a bug in human nature. If you think it may indeed materialise then you can see this as a feature. <br/><br/>Either way it doesn&#39;t matter, human nature dictates here. <br/> 2026-01-11T10:30:26Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqstdxl42r3cufgdqt0zjge0wy3zumua6903qxegu38a5z66l8534xczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqzg5pmv In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswwyvgewjwhf0pqjzdv3lfh8ejgusjkey04w3dhee2r0u8vq6u4mqpndmhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0y5erqamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wd3skuep0y5erqffjxpshvct5v9ez2v3swaehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5hj2v3sy5erqctkv96xzu39xgc8wumn8ghj7ur4wfcxcetjv4kxz7fwvdhk6te9xgc8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7ffjxpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctv9u43nxxz'>nevent1q…nxxz</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Web of trust cannot scale without account recovery. 2026-01-11T08:10:09Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsvd4cwxklsz8vpd6em79xeq635pur35347vs37l7dj709phq9tg8czyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqga0nsg In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvhvwt6svr4jmu3v059s7uzg9hv8g9pjwz4yk33uls48plkn7z64gppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0w3hl70'>nevent1q…hl70</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Increasing the number of people here by 100x is going to take a lot more than patience. 2026-01-09T15:50:39Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswxcxugumgp30j6tc7zpdyhg2z4sad2vv2cvy08gkm4x6cywazxdqzyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqmynd9t In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsd62lazps7uvynm9gjgw4z9yck5wl6rnsdty7j49yvvjjdszlnqksppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0dg545p'>nevent1q…545p</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>One hopes there&#39;s a middle ground. 2026-01-09T15:29:02Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs8vjrhcs2ng9jd9ru7h2hguhckssqn686cghnzfj468r034yzkywczyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqya9wut In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqy3hz0lurqkmvmhw305t43jv3rapqtvl3ajfgqmdfya29kn07mtcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qtxqdz'>nevent1q…xqdz</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Maybe, but in perspective this appears to be about where nostr is now in terms of creator earnings. <br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpg78lsd0mrjnpljpa54n6u36dkxg03yh8hp4zhaesz2cwetgyahqqy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3wamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwpexjmtpdshxuet59uqzp7ctq9nwzn52ussznhjcnuw7xgdrn7wel33l8amgjmf9luegnr5zhvuc9l" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…uc9l</a></span> </div> I vibed a tool to check all the big relays and as far as it found all those 7 earned a combined $85 from zaps last month. So one Chipotle burrito per person on average. If these folks represent (in some way) the current top earning cohort on nostr then that's a real issue! (Not talking about selling paintings or soap or wine btw, just pure zaps.)<br/><br/>The vibe tool could be off, but even so this still goes back to <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>jb55</span> (<span class="italic">npub1xts…kk5s</span>)</a></span> 's point, there just isn't much potential revenue floating around for creators to tap into. <br/><br/>To go from a small group of creators earning a Chipotle burrito per month to even just two or three creators earning an actual living, or even some decent side-gig revenue, would require a truly massive increase in the number of people here. </blockquote> 2026-01-09T10:30:33Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs0kzcpvms5azhyyq5aukylrh3jrgulnk0uv0elw6yk6f0lx2ycaqszyz3u0lq6lk89xrlyrmft84er5mvvslzfw0wr290mnqy4sajksfmwqqp3sq7 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqspkk68cr9h6qg8za5nrx58323cj49avxf7jlpzkrkh7r94zssqq9sppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0ryhuhz'>nevent1q…huhz</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I vibed a tool to check all the big relays and as far as it found all those 7 earned a combined $85 from zaps last month. So one Chipotle burrito per person on average. If these folks represent (in some way) the current top earning cohort on nostr then that&#39;s a real issue! (Not talking about selling paintings or soap or wine btw, just pure zaps.)<br/><br/>The vibe tool could be off, but even so this still goes back to <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>jb55</span> (<span class="italic">npub1xts…kk5s</span>)</a></span> &#39;s point, there just isn&#39;t much potential revenue floating around for creators to tap into. <br/><br/>To go from a small group of creators earning a Chipotle burrito per month to even just two or three creators earning an actual living, or even some decent side-gig revenue, would require a truly massive increase in the number of people here. 2026-01-08T21:21:02Z