2025-12-11T23:50:38Z https://njump.me Frostr https://njump.me/npub17uvdffljczhlpjfvfj0q30dmh4ugh8wlzm8u6w64y2v4ts7fqsqqj28tr4 https://plebdevs-bucket.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/images/frostr/frostr-logo.png https://plebdevs-bucket.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/images/frostr/frostr-logo.png https://njump.me/nevent1qqsz6kg6uv2uf2vzwhjk8h50l53hqg3rdrpy4ehuhvqzu80etf7lkwszyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq2nnw5d FROST needs 2 rounds.<br/><br/>Most implementations run each round at signing time.<br/><br/>Frostr v2 uses persistent Nostr relay connections that keep signers hydrated with nonce commitments in the background.<br/><br/>Time to sign? Round 1 is already done.<br/><br/>Same protocol. Same security. Near instant! 2026-04-13T22:26:41Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswvufy2tclxsa54r2s4jmndcm4cza8rhytpj25pfk27ephj7wyslgzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq3t3awm Split key into shares. <br/>M-of-N signs. <br/>No single party ever holds the complete key. <br/>The signature that comes out is a standard BIP-340 Schnorr.<br/>Indistinguishable from a single signer.<br/><br/>Nobody ever knows... 2026-04-08T23:05:57Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswsx5wru0nqhqp5xxyaa8dd6a787dp306w6dkgq9vq56c64ftjhjczyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqna663l Agents don&#39;t need full key access.<br/><br/>They need scoped access, clear boundaries, and a signer flow that doesn&#39;t break under real use. 2026-03-28T21:11:58Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs9zrc9v376qreakl8hk4fdlh4c7fnzjh6tgj2u3hfuawqsl9w0anszyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqzmstmx We have frostr signers in basically EVERY app environment! <br/>Now we are working on making them easier / more performant with the upcoming V2 of our protocol.<br/><br/>Updates soon! <img src="https://blossom.primal.net/d0d17a2c502905d68d405a93d1c46547d5a5b76b6149e5cda764b42d53215e65.jpg"> 2026-03-26T20:29:10Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsf59vef7pcyj6unvkpm0h6hfj8va758ge4emfy3jjlxwss7ja522czyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq4e8mdw STANDBY:<br/>V2 protocol is built out.<br/>App updates coming soon<br/>Seamless dynamic threshold signing over nostr for you (and your agents)<br/><br/>Imagine the possibilities... 2026-03-23T19:10:47Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswy7quq4hjuk8u0efdk048mstwjy5amuct9r4uqgwtjdfm7jkj3yszyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqhrtw7r Igloo Signer is now on iOS App Store!<br/><br/>This first release is intentionally simple and for early adopters:<br/>a background signer powered by our background soundscape approach (works with any existing Frostr keyset)<br/><br/>Next up:<br/><br/>• in-app signing<br/>• major V2 protocol improvements <img src="https://blossom.primal.net/5ba384098c55583b5b4647bc622cb683edc91bc185fbde0a7df8decfea4402f6.jpg"> 2026-03-17T19:29:15Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs09qnevpn2kzvkwv807eytnw2llvws4z2xe09l9czgspnx5s30laszyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq4y9vvg Frostr today is the BEST way to give an agent limited and scoped access to your NSEC<br/><br/>Gonna be streamlining this soon <img src="https://image.nostr.build/4e7273dabd273fb5ba852b06e41dc2f24a1a0bfaa69466d8a9ba0b90ed9fd97e.png"> 2026-02-07T17:23:21Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsglj2g2v708ynn4xm68d0unzlh22hm2gt9grqeue377hynamewvwqzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqnzt9rm Igloo Desktop v1.0.3 is out ❄️<br/><br/>🧭 Better onboarding<br/>📥 Add Share / import flow<br/>📡 Smarter relay planning (fewer weird edge cases)<br/>🔐 Security hardening + typed IPC bridge<br/><br/>Get it: <a href="https://github.com/FROSTR-ORG/igloo-desktop/releases/tag/v1.0.3">https://github.com/FROSTR-ORG/igloo-desktop/releases/tag/v1.0.3</a> 2026-02-05T00:32:55Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsfx4wcfd59rt3mmsjus0eurufqz0hxqf0n3pzw8wc3lkae0kcaqrqzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqr8u759 Igloo IOS testflight is a nostr threshold signature experiment happening in real time!<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpqtjhys9y37al6vm0qejq7pdqvf05vz6rx0m90528ejk8cstfu8zqyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0qqsqkrfp7adzus66nupmguvrn9ewq3qaxy9yq6mujggp6s5jeaz3dtqzudd7m" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…dd7m</a></span><br/> </div> You may not realize it but users who onboard onto igloo iOS test flight with the “demo mode” are actually onboarding into an active 2/2 that has them participate in a threshold signature when they run the signer… more info tomorrow 👀<br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qqs0yw5a6w3s4mkhkh428fr7cyaf7pspcuc0ettysec8d6zdrdxz5fspzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgnagxfg" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…gxfg</a></span> </blockquote>Join the testflight now: <a href="https://testflight.apple.com/join/72hjQe3J">https://testflight.apple.com/join/72hjQe3J</a><br/><video controls width="100%" class="max-h-[90vh] bg-neutral-300 dark:bg-zinc-700"><source src="https://plebdevs-bucket.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/videos/frostr/igloo-ios-testflight-2-of-2-experiement.mp4"></video> 2026-02-04T01:20:37Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs0mqppd36q8ktkkyhu8jh9cp2g7x87nutyjrkd2f0f2tyn7fnh7kqzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqvcygt6 Igloo iOS app is live on TestFlight! <br/>- New Demo Mode for quick run‑through!<br/>- Currently the signer only runs in the background and can’t publish new notes (coming soon though)<br/><br/>Your feedback is appreciated!<br/>join now 👇<br/><a href="https://testflight.apple.com/join/72hjQe3J">https://testflight.apple.com/join/72hjQe3J</a><br/><video controls width="100%" class="max-h-[90vh] bg-neutral-300 dark:bg-zinc-700"><source src="https://plebdevs-bucket.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/videos/frostr/igloo-ios-testflight-launch-demo.mp4"></video> 2026-02-02T22:05:39Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsqx5qvvkld802s6cg7jsaveem8lcs75694yje6vrl8a6kcue6dc9czyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq46rmm6 YES LET&#39;S GO! Invites coming out soon <blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpacc6jnl9s907ryjcny7pz7mh0tc3wwa79k0e5a42g5e2hpujpqqqythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2ap0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qpqsg0u8u5k6mna0y5j3809lmmsgke74g4dzp2dk2fpjfp3eela9yasvvpsal" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…psal</a></span> </div> GM - We we're rejected by Apple (for just a Testflight) with no feedback... Fuck this dystopia <img src="https://image.nostr.build/9119965e80e4b1f2305bb1883a103d1de5ee0e540ec47a124d4154dc560b2cc1.png"> </blockquote> <img src="https://image.nostr.build/9191f820efba0db9634a1b1018624c4b0670fbd6822a9c77a7abc8884d9cb01a.png"> 2026-01-30T00:08:21Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsrdzt4h6jx7v4s4fmc87evgp2uflluhtky4lm3c4h4mk4wttjmf5gzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq3y4qqc Showing off some of the magic that will be shipping with BifrostV2! (big update to our core library in development) <br/>How we plan to use nonce pools to keep Frostr requests fast and single round<br/><video controls width="100%" class="max-h-[90vh] bg-neutral-300 dark:bg-zinc-700"><source src="https://plebdevs-bucket.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/videos/frostr/frostr-random-bifrostv2.mp4"></video> 2026-01-27T21:35:56Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqspup6pkec8vymgtf02wm5tst6rdm4aktqk73q5gt6xfyn9qeu7y8czyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqmqea57 Ok done complaining lol time to get to work 2026-01-26T18:48:17Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqspxwpja64ghlgxgplyf74vkpfgfnq3l0wyl4lmeu3sekj890vpg7qzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqzgh7sd Apple is Nostr&#39;s inverse. <br/>Nostr: free, open, easy to build on, permissionless distribution. <br/>Apple: paid, closed, painful to build on, gated distribution<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzq0mhp4ja8fmy48zuk5p6uy37vtk8tx9dqdwcxm32sy8nsaa8gkeyqy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qpq52yslr8w2tdhemuhgx9ndxnmzh0rcjesgj0y2u2d9lsm0sg4l32qrvv7zj" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…v7zj</a></span> </div> Google and Apple have so many incredible hurdles to get through just to publish an app. It's wild. </blockquote> 2026-01-26T18:47:41Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqstq99kqlp8dwzau4aj3d20pf3rcmjmw2f4pv8m6hmy0l0ccxtwqkgzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqzwfjeg Apple is Nostr&#39;s inverse. <br/>Nostr: free, open, easy to build on, permissionless distribution. <br/>Apple: paid, closed, painful to build on, gated distribution<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzq0mhp4ja8fmy48zuk5p6uy37vtk8tx9dqdwcxm32sy8nsaa8gkeyqy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qpq52yslr8w2tdhemuhgx9ndxnmzh0rcjesgj0y2u2d9lsm0sg4l32qrvv7zj" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…v7zj</a></span> </div> Google and Apple have so many incredible hurdles to get through just to publish an app. It's wild. </blockquote> 2026-01-26T18:47:39Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqspk3sy8zky6esvse77pv7sj5ff8v93aaxhs0hprvvqde7fluat4vczyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqkk2yyc In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqqqyzqqwaefk57yxlq4q8jh5n4eg7a3jfajhkwardnmvw0umu2ncpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhseuwl0q'>nevent1q…wl0q</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Ahh of course we forgot the backdoor! 🤪 2026-01-26T18:40:21Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsgy87r72tdde7hj2fgnhjlaacytvl252k3q4xm9yseyscuul7jjwczyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq0kkylr GM - We we&#39;re rejected by Apple (for just a Testflight) with no feedback... Fuck this dystopia <img src="https://image.nostr.build/9119965e80e4b1f2305bb1883a103d1de5ee0e540ec47a124d4154dc560b2cc1.png"> 2026-01-26T16:41:52Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswz33yecy857jw67sly9rvplmu7vxkqd3e3j3ekzzsqrjksukue6gzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq6qkkat Testflight invites are now up for Igloo iOS! 
<br/><br/>Just put in your email and we will get the invite to you asap! <a href="https://frostr.org/apps">https://frostr.org/apps</a><br/>This is still somewhat of a closed Testflight at first. We need to get our strategy straight before we go to Apple for review. 2026-01-23T01:46:13Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsx5xnh0techkuwmwcmxlnrxuajtqgla59qwuxzwz497xmpwkg6uqczyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqy8q0xt Will be sending out first testflight invites tomorrow 😤<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpqtjhys9y37al6vm0qejq7pdqvf05vz6rx0m90528ejk8cstfu8zqyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0qqs044a685jrww3cr0pyd9tpw6ah4tgpnu0z4unu4pejjkw7yne0czgvf9pus" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…9pus</a></span> </div> Alright boys, we are officially cooking.<br/><video controls width="100%" class="max-h-[90vh] bg-neutral-300 dark:bg-zinc-700"><source src="https://blossom.primal.net/cc4537880b10566f309cb4c6bba81379613c694f894955d090ee001eb564ab84.mov"></video><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qqs266n5d6l4fnjf5x8h99ngncgaqh4pnvy4ygskv2kc2vu8unkmm8qc690we" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…90we</a></span> </blockquote> 2026-01-21T22:20:45Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs266n5d6l4fnjf5x8h99ngncgaqh4pnvy4ygskv2kc2vu8unkmm8qzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqfc77lp Pushing for IOS testflight asap - pray for me frens 2026-01-20T22:15:49Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs22nk8krfw0sggkh2ncnndtf5lgr4p77jz5fsn9dnwmd2p843x39gzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqu6r7j6 Buildout of the our V2 Frostr core library is under way 😤 (written in rust btw) 2026-01-16T21:14:33Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsdxsxkn953lzq4ethymha5w6y4pgve6jzhte0gxae772e4883ahuczyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq76y2pd Really, we just want to get Frost to work great for signing notes over relays so we can start signing Bitcoin transactions over relays ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2026-01-15T21:14:13Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsdrjwden3vs8j8pqvw3k9vf5ltefh6ja6py8gemkqj5lpy205rn4qzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqw9kd2x Better onboarding instructions / guidance coming soon to igloo apps! <br/><br/>We are working to simplify understanding of Frostr within our apps along with doing FAQ and Glossary soon! Lot&#39;s of work to do still to make this truly &#34;easy&#34; but it is all possible. <img src="https://image.nostr.build/22862554315a7a45133ae32024d775a55f56907d889df58695137ec558375705.png"> 2026-01-11T19:31:52Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqszd9caalpy0gx4cfszp3xftpga893le544heeng20zyatwnp73t3czyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq0dpner Well that was easier than I thought... Thanks <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>miljan</span> (<span class="italic">npub16c0…6nvr</span>)</a></span> 😅 <video controls width="100%" class="max-h-[90vh] bg-neutral-300 dark:bg-zinc-700"><source src="https://plebdevs-bucket.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/videos/frostr/igloo-ios-bg-signing-prototype.mp4"></video><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzp4sl80zm866yqrha4esknfwp0j4lxfrt29pkrh5nnnj2rgx6dm62qyvhwumn8ghj7urjv4kkjatd9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshsz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjme0qqsvfdqzw4gxpsy9hhrkqg2d6k0lzu3yt4et2w2r4dzs635kctwed3qlr3qjd" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…3qjd</a></span> </div> In our experience push notifications won’t help beyond just letting the user know that they should open the app to resume their remote session. <br/><br/>Don’t worry at all about being a “quick copycat”. We’d love to see more signers, which is why we shared the playbook. </blockquote> 2026-01-09T22:58:02Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsdzw2f7qsrhfpzsjsl9xcfahew4a05twwyj4dewmd34yy3w6vj5wszyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqke649q Well that was easier than I thought... Thanks <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>miljan</span> (<span class="italic">npub16c0…6nvr</span>)</a></span> 😅 <video controls width="100%" class="max-h-[90vh] bg-neutral-300 dark:bg-zinc-700"><source src="https://plebdevs-bucket.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/videos/frostr/igloo-ios-bg-signing-prototype.mp4"></video><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzp4sl80zm866yqrha4esknfwp0j4lxfrt29pkrh5nnnj2rgx6dm62qyvhwumn8ghj7urjv4kkjatd9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshsz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjme0qqsvfdqzw4gxpsy9hhrkqg2d6k0lzu3yt4et2w2r4dzs635kctwed3qlr3qjd" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…3qjd</a></span> </div> In our experience push notifications won’t help beyond just letting the user know that they should open the app to resume their remote session. <br/><br/>Don’t worry at all about being a “quick copycat”. We’d love to see more signers, which is why we shared the playbook. </blockquote> 2026-01-09T22:58:01Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsqd0frlgkxed3wtdff2rcfvc7ma30mqanvlmnnggy83xsp4m3pm3qzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq5fd8lk In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs8u26uwuruus2sn8v2rztrk6ka9qwl22yd2u2e0prmznwpu5nnslspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsfpm8k4'>nevent1q…m8k4</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Yeah will definitely look into this thanks for the reminder! 2026-01-09T17:09:29Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsgn8cxtu4ssdjnwfrew9e7703y276hz4ww4ssss994kur9h8eueeqzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqe7k3a9 Thinking about two different ways of supporting frostr signer on iOS. <br/><br/>One is to just copy primal and use the audio player for keeping background signer online, but who knows if I could get the app approved - also I would hate to copycat so quick and bandwagon onto this workaround, but hey if it works well??<br/><br/>The other way is doing push notifications; which I think I found a way to do very privately where no events are stored and we will have no idea whose device tokens are being held. However that still requires storing device tokens and also running a server which I really wanna avoid doing.... There are definitely more ways around this. There’s a lot that is technically possible, but with Apple, you have the additional question of will they even allow you to release this?? Such an interesting problem, there is no right answer! 2026-01-08T23:59:58Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsd8eds5tqne3synvlamzxsmzn65d793z4hvmnj8eatzxm7xffug5qzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqjfsy7a Wow really groundbreaking stuff from Primal! This is super inspiring for us as we&#39;re trying to figure out best approach for IOS background signing at this moment!<br/><br/>It&#39;s possible we might even be able to highjack this functionality to work with Frostr without any code changes?? Will report back 🤔<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzp4sl80zm866yqrha4esknfwp0j4lxfrt29pkrh5nnnj2rgx6dm62qyvhwumn8ghj7urjv4kkjatd9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ehx7um5wghxyctwvshsqg8hzaz59rwtvaccl0tw4jja2jenawchjsrp4pa6nazz29acscgsav4jqul8" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…qul8</a></span> </div> I think it’s fair to say that we broke new ground with our iOS remote signer. People have been trying to build something like this for a long time (even predating Nostr) and afaik all those attempts have been shut down by Apple. Some of our well informed users are concerned that our implementation breaks Apple’s rules and that Primal might get banned from the App Store. I’ll share our experience here so that other builders can benefit from it. <br/><br/>First and foremost: we didn’t try to sneak this feature in. We provided a detailed explanation to the app store review team outlining exactly what we are doing and how. The technical tldr is: the only way to keep your iOS app running in the background is to play sound or dox user location. There is a history of developers trying to hack their way in by playing silent audio tracks or attempting to trick the reviewers (and confuse the users) in other ways. <br/><br/>The key to our success was that we actually built a polished ambient sound feature for our signer. Some users might actually want ambient sound for their remote sessions, so we took great care to pick the appropriate sounds and build polished UI that enables users to control those sounds via the dynamic island or the live activity UI on the lock screen. We also designed an informative sound opt in screen at the beginning of the session. This is important: the user is fully informed and totally in control every step of the way. I am not sure, but it might be helpful that Primal was already a multimedia app so this feature doesn’t feel out of place. <br/><br/>In any case, that’s how we did it; hope it helps other builders. 🫡<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzp4sl80zm866yqrha4esknfwp0j4lxfrt29pkrh5nnnj2rgx6dm62qyfhwumn8ghj7ur4wfcxcetsv9njuetn9uq3jamnwvaz7tmswfjk66t4d5h8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qpq4tuly878tn4nv2gdh08dl25lkkw7perpx82nqezkr8ftfs392tjst7jqg4" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…jqg4</a></span> </blockquote> 2026-01-07T17:11:59Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsf5nyf30t5fdpgd604nl63tryutsdtuu6jk866wzsjzhuj0ayhnjszyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqu0z38e igloo-cli version 1.0.2 has just been released! <br/> - QR codes in CLI for sharing credentials (toggle with Q)<br/> - Improved visuals: animated FROSTR intro + cleaner layout<br/> - Refactored arg parsing with better flag handling<br/> - 100 new tests massively increasing coverage<br/><br/>Use igloo-cli to create a new Frostr keyset OR just run it as a signer: <a href="https://github.com/FROSTR-ORG/igloo-cli/releases/tag/v1.0.2">https://github.com/FROSTR-ORG/igloo-cli/releases/tag/v1.0.2</a> <video controls width="100%" class="max-h-[90vh] bg-neutral-300 dark:bg-zinc-700"><source src="https://video.nostr.build/dc3629175682d76826159fc66c0439573e776a5b6473e30903ecab7d2c41f1fd.mp4"></video> 2026-01-06T19:12:18Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswm38afwyeegf5tp2z0waezpcqrjy45mu0y5httw07ncqc2842ahgzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqp6cgf7 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2w7fseqgvpjv7nxm2pll55m6x3g53w326ruts0zxluxttsqasqjqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhs73af5h'>nevent1q…af5h</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>If you store your entire nsec in nsec bunker AND you use frostr than you will be effectively duplicating the private key (one in a hot server with nsecbunker and one in a distributed set of signers with frostr) so kinda self defeating. You can do 3/5 though! Just configure your &#34;peer policy&#34; carefully. Check out the igloo-server demo video here for a good simple setup of frostr WITH nip46 (so you can still use nostr connect):<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpacc6jnl9s907ryjcny7pz7mh0tc3wwa79k0e5a42g5e2hpujpqqqythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2ap0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qpqlgal2fexst3uj0u9pwxx32ctzztu3zyu7puxd3dduh607372mplqzt3wes" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…3wes</a></span> </div> Happy Friday - Frostr can now run on Umbrel ❄️ 🤝 ☂️ <video controls width="100%" class="max-h-[90vh] bg-neutral-300 dark:bg-zinc-700"><source src="https://plebdevs-bucket.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/videos/random/igloo-server-umbrel-announcement.mp4"></video><br/><br/>Version 1.1.0 of igloo-server can now be added as an easy to run app on your Umbrel through the Community App Stores feature.<br/><br/>Just click on the ... in the top right of app store and add <a href="https://github.com/frostr-org/igloo-server-store">https://github.com/frostr-org/igloo-server-store</a> as the url - then install and you'll be up and running in no time! <img src="https://image.nostr.build/b9c617918c3e46f7ec043a5be21093b4ed836403d72da662c63d9cbfc6d96063.png"> <img src="https://image.nostr.build/2de4ef1d5259750c90ca0cdaeadfc058f43474c5e0faaad944df495dc08d9f5d.png"> </blockquote> 2026-01-05T19:37:02Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsvsa36fjzgrjcs6gp20rvncl4rxceetkraswswpnlmtfrj7xufkdszyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqpgvl7a opus 4.5 is one of the smartest coding models in the world right now but I still struggle to get even the frontier LLM&#39;s to be able to grasp a lot of protocol details of Frostr when working with features in the code or docs. <br/><br/>So either we are still (a little) smarter than the AI OR we are just retard maxxing too hard (likely)<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzp57hgyjdm76mm3sm3uvdzlpnxkamf7x8zxp2xhhzwv22fxjwk7caqy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qpq4r9lmf5kuqgnhe3f34rg37m65sr2rh5mzaqkam0w4eanmktemsusgzwqm2" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…wqm2</a></span> </div> wdym? what doens't stand a chance? </blockquote> 2026-01-05T19:34:01Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs89krylh2e3d9vsfa3x7ag7ua352fqwzsf23vmjxm3hs8u6csu4uczyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqru4jq3 Yes you could setup a 3/5 with frostr! It would be best to keep the nsec offline and cold after setup. It is worth understanding though that Frostr uses a &#34;trusted dealer&#34; setup of Frost meaning that the nsec WILL be known and contained on one computer in order to setup the 3/5 initially so basically you need at least one &#34;trusted dealer&#34; to setup the quorum<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzp4cd2qy32p9ejtgc8zpz4uj96hmt8gttstv30t9hjfxw7c0dft8wqy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qpq33x7xwv29lvdzystzmxwhln9jv02r3n4xr5s0lpctej0zl7wgaqql2w2t7" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…w2t7</a></span> </div> Quick question. Let's say a meetup wants to use frostr to post notes from an nsec. Could we setup a 3 of 5 with this? What would be a good place to store the original nsec? Can this be combined with a nsecbunker(thinking like 1 share has many bunkers)? </blockquote> 2026-01-05T19:31:10Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs8gvw2rxpwxt5dp0596w0kgj3wpafaqc76g7cr9f0nlygv2frnasszyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqs383ct With frostr your keys DM each other to sign notes 💜 <img src="https://image.nostr.build/79617e702160aa4d9db2bf5c3f132e3215645267fcebb483430257ec3e81a2a6.png"> 2026-01-05T19:26:39Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsxgwwg82ccnr7fhn33uentyn5x3q0avp5elxsjuhpseww5ky9x9jszyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqu7mlyf Working on nip46 frostr stuff with opus4.5... Bro doesn&#39;t stand a chance 😂<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpacc6jnl9s907ryjcny7pz7mh0tc3wwa79k0e5a42g5e2hpujpqqqythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2ap0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qpqqyty0vzu7ap3v3adjsfgf8sgpx43rs0ghaeuzffh3rg3da3fmazs2at3c7" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…t3c7</a></span> </div> Here's a diagram I made for NIP-46 signing flow with Frostr...<br/>- nostr client sends nip46 request to relay<br/>- igloo server listens for nip46 request<br/>- approves<br/>- passes to other signer (igloo-cli) for partial sig<br/>- gets response from cli and completes sig<br/>- passes back to relay<br/>- nostr client receives signed note and publishes to relays<br/><br/>All of thise happens within like 2 seconds wtf<br/> <img src="https://blossom.primal.net/eae9090da662ad95cfca8ffb84fa7fda4a6b1a25929a942355a200a022f441d0.png"> </blockquote> 2026-01-05T00:55:41Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsyn829za9ta6f0kdf4enjyn22wzr2d2jvt3hlvnw2pamvl2dfdahqzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqr2wygd In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswtl3jg6v98yjl6g49jj0zer70ygcs6uxfx22dz2kftfp43na7nkqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsrf7743'>nevent1q…7743</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Bullish on you wizard! 2026-01-03T19:03:17Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsgz9p8rm2zjm6vvwzvrngy27yurjh8ezef6gvq0mfgt6wh6h6e02qzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq3e82dl Share it brother!<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqwmleq3kz8c6at4x8m3m76djtw92zmkxaqw34lpeqf5q3lsegd20qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qpqecs6uutxvml8f76cr07nnet52nezs783yk4k9r3pq80qqvdugvssnqguyd" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…guyd</a></span> </div> I have a idea </blockquote> 2026-01-03T19:01:26Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs2vdhdmhz0cn3a4nrgfrdz86p3rpkl5gganfyjkz2szadrkg5mm8czyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqgheljl Absolutely! But we never wanted to change standards we just need them to be implemented consistently (and actually work lol)<br/><br/>We are working on proposals internally though and also FIRST wanna do everything we can on the side of our apps / libs to make the experience as clean as possible (before proposing spec changes)<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqjxmkhn30f3zr4j06ya6zfu5hs5w2pn6c8tkxthfgd74xdmjw5xlqy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcqyq8lgc8wp6jphy77uyrvle44xxe6zx6mf3tsw509uwvpptmw5ljyxw938dv" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…38dv</a></span> </div> There's a lot of eyes on your project, you have the power to influence standards by defining a reference implementation.<br/><br/>Let the builders come to you. </blockquote> 2026-01-02T23:04:16Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs8yd69mr2sd9a7027qceteks5fark8jxcu328c2tv750k2r3d46sgzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq9xka38 Should clarify - nip07 is quite simple and standardized across the ecosystem! Barely have run into issues with how the spec is implemented on clients BUT it is (mostly) trapped in the extension environment...<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpacc6jnl9s907ryjcny7pz7mh0tc3wwa79k0e5a42g5e2hpujpqqqythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2ap0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qpqs7gf74n7t5fwx6wplcur3p35fdpgqk8908jjk6wk8glqc5453gqsap6eap" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…6eap</a></span> </div> Frostr adds threshold signing to Nostr; no protocol changes! We integrate with NIP-07/46/55 so signed notes look completely normal to clients and relays (no one can tell you are threshold signing)<br/><br/>The reality: every client/signer implements these specs differently...<br/><br/>This fragmentation is our biggest challenge! Frostr hopes to be boring and simple but the ecosystem needs more standardization to realize this dream </blockquote> 2026-01-02T22:28:52Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsg0yyl2el96yhrd8qluwpcsc6yks5qtrjhneftd8tr50sv226g5qgzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqt443gk Frostr adds threshold signing to Nostr; no protocol changes! We integrate with NIP-07/46/55 so signed notes look completely normal to clients and relays (no one can tell you are threshold signing)<br/><br/>The reality: every client/signer implements these specs differently...<br/><br/>This fragmentation is our biggest challenge! Frostr hopes to be boring and simple but the ecosystem needs more standardization to realize this dream 2026-01-02T22:26:48Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsrdujf7lqsrvrvu82g8p3wvyv635lqw333gzpes2rznf65nmf42eczyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqt5vcdp Igloo Android App (alpha) is here! - <a href="https://github.com/frostr-org/igloo-android/releases">https://github.com/frostr-org/igloo-android/releases</a><br/><br/>Will say more later 👀 2025-12-24T14:13:56Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs053a295gjp48zun87c37y4vm72ydpqw4c5mlk5vdcs5r9vj74ztqzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqs8uu27 Thinking about partially signed notes 🤔 2025-12-24T00:56:16Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsdrlt5jxl2tlagjg2aj7xky0gg88rp0j3ynv24w96uq3sc0sju90czyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqdws3lr Say hello to Igloo Web - the easiest and most lightweight way to run a Frostr signer!<br/> <img src="https://image.nostr.build/75176daf74bb7739f35323376ce569063b59103a42102a3a70305ead860e9616.png"> <br/><br/><a href="https://iglooweb.app">https://iglooweb.app</a><br/><a href="https://github.com/frostr-org/igloo-web">https://github.com/frostr-org/igloo-web</a> 2025-12-17T22:24:04Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsqz9j8kpw0wsckg7kegy5yncyqn2c3c85t7u7py5mc35gk7c5a73gzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqnxnzzw Here&#39;s a diagram I made for NIP-46 signing flow with Frostr...<br/>- nostr client sends nip46 request to relay<br/>- igloo server listens for nip46 request<br/>- approves<br/>- passes to other signer (igloo-cli) for partial sig<br/>- gets response from cli and completes sig<br/>- passes back to relay<br/>- nostr client receives signed note and publishes to relays<br/><br/>All of thise happens within like 2 seconds wtf<br/> <img src="https://blossom.primal.net/eae9090da662ad95cfca8ffb84fa7fda4a6b1a25929a942355a200a022f441d0.png"> 2025-12-13T18:28:24Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsqzu75gc9a2akwv8zve5qat7vrash8tall5nm2sfxzljhneh62cqgzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq6d6xh4 Yes they are! -<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpacc6jnl9s907ryjcny7pz7mh0tc3wwa79k0e5a42g5e2hpujpqqqy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qpqffr5j65x590kfvdqsfs3qpgwdpkauyqegl6macnmfexy6p9jpm2q6ky7sd" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…y7sd</a></span><br/> </div> Key rotation is done manually still - you need the threshold of shares within that keyset (2/3 for example) locally in order to recover the nsec, this does not happen over nostr in some fancy protocol manner (only signing does)<br/><br/>shares are only valid within a keyset meaning that if you have a 2/3 and you lose a share IF you destroy the other 2 shares than the third stolen share is ORPHANED.<br/><br/>So to rotate at this time the steps are:<br/>- Recover nsec with threshold of shares<br/>- Use that nsec to generate a new keyset (can be any threshold)<br/>- DESTROY the shares in the old keyset<br/><br/>TLDR; DESTROY AND OPRHAN <img src="https://image.nostr.build/5fda47cbab5db15bb8576fcd8a944dce0a46b2bb612634fe0ed4c193dc830cf8.png"> <br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzq96n3hp2vfmf6z2y8uvvxl97xk86kkalnqghx4p25lzl79c76a7yqyg8wumn8ghj7mn09eehgu3wvdez7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcqyqjzk3j9jx67m3x65fcglp3efu6cylazsw40g3h8jzu5kz6c0u396l77xua" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…7xua</a></span> </blockquote>nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpd92jnpn335sem6gc4u6pzqxccydf3na6wwxea0jxpwv298p3j8rqy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3wamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwdehhxarj9e3xzmny9uqzpp3jpgxg93ng9gy998594vefr5veyzcqzs625hdpmr5vnshpf3jmqa44yj 2025-12-12T21:56:25Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsy536fd2r2zhmykxsgycgsq58xsmw7zqv50ad7ufa5unzdqjeqa4qzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqffpm3e Key rotation is done manually still - you need the threshold of shares within that keyset (2/3 for example) locally in order to recover the nsec, this does not happen over nostr in some fancy protocol manner (only signing does)<br/><br/>shares are only valid within a keyset meaning that if you have a 2/3 and you lose a share IF you destroy the other 2 shares than the third stolen share is ORPHANED.<br/><br/>So to rotate at this time the steps are:<br/>- Recover nsec with threshold of shares<br/>- Use that nsec to generate a new keyset (can be any threshold)<br/>- DESTROY the shares in the old keyset<br/><br/>TLDR; DESTROY AND OPRHAN <img src="https://image.nostr.build/5fda47cbab5db15bb8576fcd8a944dce0a46b2bb612634fe0ed4c193dc830cf8.png"> <br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzq96n3hp2vfmf6z2y8uvvxl97xk86kkalnqghx4p25lzl79c76a7yqyg8wumn8ghj7mn09eehgu3wvdez7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcqyqjzk3j9jx67m3x65fcglp3efu6cylazsw40g3h8jzu5kz6c0u396l77xua" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…7xua</a></span> </div> <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub17uvdffljczhlpjfvfj0q30dmh4ugh8wlzm8u6w64y2v4ts7fqsqqj28tr4" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Frostr</span> (<span class="italic">npub17uv…8tr4</span>)</a></span> how does the rotation work? </blockquote> 2025-12-12T21:11:41Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsv47dsck4qxdc7kaxl2ev39nhwgzd4e34942a8ztmty6g49k8l4pqzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqkdkant Key rotation is done manually still - you need the threshold of shares within that keyset (2/3 for example) locally in order to recover the nsec, this does not happen over nostr in some fancy protocol manner (only signing does)<br/><br/>shares are only valid within a keyset meaning that if you have a 2/3 and you lose a share IF you destroy the other 2 shares than the third stolen share is ORPHANED.<br/><br/>So to rotate at this time the steps are:<br/>- Recover nsec with threshold of shares<br/>- Use that nsec to generate a new keyset (can be any threshold)<br/>- DESTROY the shares in the old keyset<br/><br/>TLDR; DESTROY AND OPRHAN <img src="https://image.nostr.build/5fda47cbab5db15bb8576fcd8a944dce0a46b2bb612634fe0ed4c193dc830cf8.png"> <br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzq96n3hp2vfmf6z2y8uvvxl97xk86kkalnqghx4p25lzl79c76a7yqyg8wumn8ghj7mn09eehgu3wvdez7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcqyqjzk3j9jx67m3x65fcglp3efu6cylazsw40g3h8jzu5kz6c0u396l77xua" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…7xua</a></span> </div> <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/npub17uvdffljczhlpjfvfj0q30dmh4ugh8wlzm8u6w64y2v4ts7fqsqqj28tr4" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Frostr</span> (<span class="italic">npub17uv…8tr4</span>)</a></span> how does the rotation work? </blockquote> 2025-12-12T21:11:39Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswj42mgcpgq4wfrhrsqqupy0zk8k8fn02hs0ezexpjawu6n95qfsczyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqwuyn5d In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2dtjqsxetg0vkw4km0ccft8p5c9rahzjyf2j6xkkw8s3nechmm0spz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsuy2s4d'>nevent1q…2s4d</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Legend! TY 🤝 2025-12-12T21:04:11Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs23ud0qksmfy84x8sgp8sxa6l823nvdhy5cf6tyznrn98k0500esszyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqkazl0c Here is our demo from Bitcoin 2025 this might help! <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1WG_InBsHg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1WG_InBsHg</a><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzp72p454zfutxcx6egquujzxmghzq3dn3lrlhd3da0wwke4gdt5eeqy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qpqxsl4vz3leq6q0pwfxre6y4av6aqvdeaxtdrdexpvqkjump8phhmqxw0ay0" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…0ay0</a></span> </div> This sounds so cool, but probably too techy for me at this point. Hard trying to keep up with so much new tech! Great idea though, maybe I can binge some videos to better conceptualize it. 😉👍 <br/><br/> </blockquote> 2025-12-12T21:03:12Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsgvgk7sx6g0ytgk5fvyjnxrnxs6gyz7jcw6fw6ygwqsr3f5epsnygzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqtxet4x Split your nsec into a multisig<br/>The keys of that multisig talk to each other over nostr to sign notes<br/><blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzq90tw8h09v4m9t4929cjwu9a2npp53mrp4um4fcxrgx7gq437ftfqy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qpq06wkzsm2p0ug7ul4gn9kp54xdqvv7vuc3w24qpccz99c6x86lumqq0a9s9" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…a9s9</a></span> </div> Can this be explained in more simple terms please? </blockquote> 2025-12-12T21:00:38Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsvljj7uxut6px5mnmmjpcc5xshqadnu9sgup7kkmv5xg0sjwj6u3czyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqwqqm8z Rumors that first version of Frostr android signer will be released next week!?!?! Can&#39;t trust what you hear nowadays though...<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzp4tugu7xvkqgkkcunechn8gweyhhaaqqgjd7e9xx4w5f7uqsvyslqy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qpqv8xr6sxkgcyc8ahvqzaeceht74r34m3dy8q67p934mkxv76qd5jsf6s9tw" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…s9tw</a></span> </div> There seems to be no pre built Android signer yet. It's not good to announce it as "available" if 95% of the users can't do it... </blockquote> 2025-12-12T20:57:22Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs05wl4yung9c7f87zshrrg4v93p97g3zw0q7rxckk7ta8lgl9dslszyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq8npt0z Happy Friday - Frostr can now run on Umbrel ❄️ 🤝 ☂️ <video controls width="100%" class="max-h-[90vh] bg-neutral-300 dark:bg-zinc-700"><source src="https://plebdevs-bucket.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/videos/random/igloo-server-umbrel-announcement.mp4"></video><br/><br/>Version 1.1.0 of igloo-server can now be added as an easy to run app on your Umbrel through the Community App Stores feature.<br/><br/>Just click on the ... in the top right of app store and add <a href="https://github.com/frostr-org/igloo-server-store">https://github.com/frostr-org/igloo-server-store</a> as the url - then install and you&#39;ll be up and running in no time! <img src="https://image.nostr.build/b9c617918c3e46f7ec043a5be21093b4ed836403d72da662c63d9cbfc6d96063.png"> <img src="https://image.nostr.build/2de4ef1d5259750c90ca0cdaeadfc058f43474c5e0faaad944df495dc08d9f5d.png"> 2025-12-12T19:30:41Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs0g7sadpmcqlr6z5rh6fanvue9ldyuagrdkdnn2szyh5ad0chg7mqzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqq4gpehz Gotta have that dawg in you<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzq96n3hp2vfmf6z2y8uvvxl97xk86kkalnqghx4p25lzl79c76a7yqyg8wumn8ghj7mn09eehgu3wvdez7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcqyzasvxxaca69mnsng2zrjurhq03wqumqnys2yp3d8xpzw2l5whg2z5ulgkk" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…lgkk</a></span> </div> Cannibals! </blockquote> 2025-12-12T00:25:15Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs0uppm9qhgx29qczv0c67ksmu8jq429mdasx28ujxwgk8ey592y2czyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqr8x996 Also yes, frostr uses frostr for nostr. We eating our dogfood now!<blockquote class="border-l-05rem border-l-strongpink border-solid"><div class="-ml-4 bg-gradient-to-r from-gray-100 dark:from-zinc-800 to-transparent mr-0 mt-0 mb-4 pl-4 pr-2 py-2">quoting <br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Article"><a itemprop="url" href="/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpacc6jnl9s907ryjcny7pz7mh0tc3wwa79k0e5a42g5e2hpujpqqqy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qpqdlssy8qu039wemae5jxef6zxnf8qznjjj2xsfcnmpkzt59pckfks52xmm9" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1">nevent1q…xmm9</a></span> </div> Hello world!<br/><br/>Frostr is a fully open-source protocol + app suite that lets you:<br/>• Split your existing Nostr key into any threshold (2/3, 3/5, etc)
<br/>• Sign notes using simple Frostr apps that coordinate over Nostr
<br/>• Use NIP-07 + NIP-46 in any Nostr client
<br/>• Recover your nsec on any device with your threshold
<br/>• Rotate / expand your setup anytime
<br/>• And do it all without creating a new key
<br/><br/>We’ve got some cool updates shipping soon! Keep an eye out 
<a href="https://frostr.org">https://frostr.org</a> <img src="https://image.nostr.build/0edc3728f5cd03c3129a7362dc4aa43ac751703a822f4d3c432f4c159caf8446.png"> </blockquote> 2025-12-12T00:15:05Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsxlcgzrsw8cjhva7u6frv5aprf5nspfeff9rgyufasmp96zsutymgzyrm334987tq2luxf93xfuz9ahw7h3zuamutvlnfm253fj4wreyzqqecqmw7 Hello world!<br/><br/>Frostr is a fully open-source protocol + app suite that lets you:<br/>• Split your existing Nostr key into any threshold (2/3, 3/5, etc)
<br/>• Sign notes using simple Frostr apps that coordinate over Nostr
<br/>• Use NIP-07 + NIP-46 in any Nostr client
<br/>• Recover your nsec on any device with your threshold
<br/>• Rotate / expand your setup anytime
<br/>• And do it all without creating a new key
<br/><br/>We’ve got some cool updates shipping soon! Keep an eye out 
<a href="https://frostr.org">https://frostr.org</a> <img src="https://image.nostr.build/0edc3728f5cd03c3129a7362dc4aa43ac751703a822f4d3c432f4c159caf8446.png"> 2025-12-12T00:01:56Z