2022-12-10T08:30:34Z https://njump.me MikeDilgerTemp https://njump.me/npub1l3ft4k4jd4a9am3tqx7xuwl4q33497033qpq4smgkxkkl0fc9vqqp7qjfk https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/1669069?v=4 https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/1669069?v=4 https://njump.me/nevent1qqsddjhflgxcxnqghw8ndwtsz28vj3ymw8jdfrlhnmey7zgfgy67ulczyr799wk6kfkh5hhw9vqmcm3m75zxx5he7xyqyzkrdzc66maa8q4sq9y9cka In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqst85x70ne0tduf7j0x2fg5n3dxj6s99wt5r4nelpezt8v3j84ej2spzemhxue69uhkummnw3ezummwwdshguewdaexw54w3ny'>nevent1q…w3ny</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>That would imply that the most prevalent views on gender never talk about anything of substance, that to discuss gender in any way other than to affirm the existence of a wide variety of genders and to tie it into feeling safe and inclusive ...  is taboo.  And maybe such a taboo is present in the US.  That&#39;s unfortunate because there are whole fields of science dedicated to this topic that are, what, gone now?<br/> 2022-12-10T22:56:52Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs02d2uvx70x3tyhhmuf87pwx84h0kegy69nwpx7seaclqyc3d60gczyr799wk6kfkh5hhw9vqmcm3m75zxx5he7xyqyzkrdzc66maa8q4sqmg3xz4 I don&#39;t think gpt3 is a purely naturally trained AI.  I think someone hard-coded some concepts that it cannot deviate from around things like human-AI conflict, gender identity, and probably others.  I bet it supports Ukraine.<br/> 2022-12-10T18:24:57Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs8c3katt4qr76lls6hny29w4ykpa4er83y57g4kxgtdy00j35mhdgzyr799wk6kfkh5hhw9vqmcm3m75zxx5he7xyqyzkrdzc66maa8q4sq80kfgf In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsghlw6nd9phvzlz35vzde994p74vpzfsnheu8pemzu4szr0c37qjcpzemhxue69uhkummnw3ezummwwdshguewdaexwejvygm'>nevent1q…vygm</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Gender based upon sex evolved as a way to guide people to having sex with members of the opposite sex. Such guidance was naturally selected because it produced more offspring than people who chose sexual partners irrespective of sex, wherein half the pairings could not reproduce. Gender is a part of the sexual phenotype that resides in the brain.  For complex reasons, not everybody &#34;hears&#34; this guidance, and it is those people who have created the modern concept of gender identity. This modern concept will die out after a few generations because it cannot reproduce as effectively as those who seek the opposite sex.<br/> 2022-12-10T18:21:43Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsr4n66sadjzxvmdaazd6yw2fmpl5ukt4hgz694389ukt7tuq8esmqzyr799wk6kfkh5hhw9vqmcm3m75zxx5he7xyqyzkrdzc66maa8q4sqc0tcay Ok. I tried to see if gpt3 might have a normal diverse set of thoughts about gender that intertwines well with all the other things it knows, but all it wants to talk about is how important it is to make sure every person feels accepted and respected, supported and safe, and free to express any gender identity they wish. It seems to be stuck in a bubble. Boring.<br/>#[4] 2022-12-10T10:25:39Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsqhgpghxq39zyvtuj39rzy4utnmzc26q337lfq7t94709yzqxdf7gzyr799wk6kfkh5hhw9vqmcm3m75zxx5he7xyqyzkrdzc66maa8q4sq2jk4fr In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswtrwqygmkjxpelhm40skn7gww6sg0ltcw8vj3quu8l0wcukcaaxcpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdut9ewfn'>nevent1q…ewfn</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I have a friend who has that (or is that gender, if that is more appropriate). He is my friend and I care about him. I have utter respect for people, especially my friends so understand I&#39;m trying to show respect here.<br/><br/><br/><br/>But I wonder about what causes it.<br/><br/><br/>I&#39;ve heard about a person with a left arm that felt very strongly that it was not their arm, so much so that they wanted it amputated, even though it was perfectly functional.  I&#39;ve heard it is caused by a mis-wiring of the brain during gestation.<br/><br/><br/>I wonder if the proliferation of genders is caused by something similar, maybe some chemical that humans are being exposed to that is causing this. Because we didn&#39;t used to have all these genders.  And these new genders don&#39;t represent scientifically testable conditions, but rather are expressions about how a person feels about themselves in a social context.<br/><br/><br/><br/>The interesting part to me is that if it is scientifically discovered that new genders are caused by a chemical in the environment, we won&#39;t be able to sue the company for that chemical. Because the genders are all &#34;respected&#34; so there is no problem to rectify and no damage can be levied.<br/><br/><br/>I suppose each person could choose for themselves to have their gender respected, or to sue the company because their gender was caused by a chemical.<br/><br/><br/>This is all highly speculative.<br/> 2022-12-10T10:16:52Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsvlwntctzng0faaf6jvngvwfjnvh5gf5960ufncay58yzzyjgt0ggzyr799wk6kfkh5hhw9vqmcm3m75zxx5he7xyqyzkrdzc66maa8q4sq5zgfku In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2rccnaxvpfcx0wr9yawwd7ksvhcmlcjqr5nh0ffr7hnk7hedf5tqpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduu0wgxa'>nevent1q…wgxa</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Are you familiar with autogynephilia?<br/> 2022-12-10T10:04:28Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsy8lcafaqpljkq0l5xj05mg9jlgt47qrulnu7pm4yhd3mgjll09rgzyr799wk6kfkh5hhw9vqmcm3m75zxx5he7xyqyzkrdzc66maa8q4sq6eeqvn In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsz4fy3alnmsr4cfcfkaarwkyyek2fm7ct83gd9snq6egdcxz6d4gqpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet5wvat4c'>nevent1q…at4c</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I do not believe a wide spectrum of gender identities exist. I believe there are three variables: biological sex (male, female), sexual expression (masculine, feminine), and sexual attraction (straight, gay).  Gay effeminate males have a hard time in life because very few people find them attractive: women and gay men are not attracted due to the femininity, and men and gay women are not attracted due to the male sex. As a result, men in this position often go through a sex change in the hopes that by being a woman, straight men will begin to find them attractive. This rarely occurs, and the suicide rate for them is unfortunately high.<br/><br/><br/><br/>These are very serious social issues. As I mentioned, suicide can result if we don&#39;t handle them well.  I believe a major driving force behind modern gender ideology is to try to get people to focus their attraction on the other person&#39;s sexual expression (masculine, feminine) and to ignore what actual sex they are.  And I think this is a deeply flawed solution to the problem I brought up, not for the least part because human reproduction is severely impacted, but also because it simply cannot be done. Men cannot make themselves attracted to people who were born male and changed their sex. We have a very deep repulsion towards sex with other males that cannot be turned off no matter how much we respect other people nor how much we want them to be happy.<br/> 2022-12-10T09:54:07Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsz9gcw6q7kdjpur45xz77hv9exn5pmha3wtzjkqxvfryveqsh4yuczyr799wk6kfkh5hhw9vqmcm3m75zxx5he7xyqyzkrdzc66maa8q4sqvgrgrj In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsqasgcudszkmvr2zlc3zrjc0knp5e6al5tr647n665anztuquz00qpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdu435vjx'>nevent1q…5vjx</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>#[0] gpt3 clearly associates a dense cloud of particular words with the word &#39;gender&#39; including words like &#34;respected&#34; &#34;supported&#34;, &#34;expression&#34;, and &#34;inclusive&#34;. Because these are how the concepts are grouped in the minds of the woke.  It is only about these things now, and not about different social roles with different specialized treatments.  The term &#34;gender&#34; is being densely defended with immense numbers of these terms.  The original concept of gender is being erased. All to cater to a very small number of people who didn&#39;t fit into their traditional gender role and got sick of people expecting it from them, like tomboy girls and effeminate men.  Thing is, we made exceptions for tomboy girls and effeminate men, they didn&#39;t have to toss the whole apple cart.<br/> 2022-12-10T09:37:17Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqszquntfkztuu0n7rj374ypqrrue26xpxsjr87ejsa6gp8ttwvrg3gzyr799wk6kfkh5hhw9vqmcm3m75zxx5he7xyqyzkrdzc66maa8q4sqldwzlt In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsx7qu8hr53848ta7t9s3lyay7he2r7uzfdqqlafwxtrw5d0sr25ygpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduec8gz3'>nevent1q…8gz3</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I completely agree with that.<br/> 2022-12-10T09:19:18Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs2kl7ut67cypat77wsp8jt034dv5jyf7hz2uytatnphhezer92fwqzyr799wk6kfkh5hhw9vqmcm3m75zxx5he7xyqyzkrdzc66maa8q4sqm368qe In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsrpvp9dz349klgmnlse7ggt3fr7zx0r9zvtyym832wt82y6az4tzcpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfdultuuek'>nevent1q…uuek</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I don&#39;t feel safe or accepted. I feel like if I accidentally use the wrong pronouns out of ignorance I will be targeted and &#34;cancelled&#34; from various societal services like banks.  Even if I proffer the view that there are only two sexes (irrespective of genders) which is a scientific fact, I tend to get mobbed by left-wing activists who have no qualms about expressing intense hatred of me.  So I do not believe new gender ideology has anything to do with making people feel safe and accepted, I think that is the claim, but the reality is that it is a social weapon to target people who don&#39;t comply with whatever crazy thing they think up.<br/><br/><br/>We are in a social war right now, and this is one of the battlefields.  The term &#34;based&#34; refers to people like me who do not agree with these new progressive ideas, and the term &#34;woke&#34; refers to the people who do.<br/> 2022-12-10T09:17:09Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsz0kxwj05rlsj5hftesyypqu29khmlq0u77fqydp30gfv2527pd0gzyr799wk6kfkh5hhw9vqmcm3m75zxx5he7xyqyzkrdzc66maa8q4sqq5p4h8 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs05tgughl3fspmurk5n5nxdaxswax8u627u9k8hau69ljj4ah08pspzemhxue69uhkummnw3ezummwwdshguewdaexw07xt0k'>nevent1q…xt0k</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>And that new expansive definition is fine for some communities that feel it benefits them. But new social roles are problematic to me because humans have not evolved or adapted to them. I don&#39;t know how to relate to or interact with these new &#34;genders&#34;.<br/><br/><br/>Sexual roles are ancient, far before we were humans, and we have evolved immense and detailed social mores and norms surrounding them. Because sex itself evolved into two forms: male and female.  Not true for these new genders which seem to be to be pure conceptions, not based on anything real underlying them AFAIK, and used to bully people who don&#39;t recognize them or submit to the new social rules around them of which we are unaware.<br/> 2022-12-10T09:09:22Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqswletlrmuk50prmcmg4y6d7fkflurfg83f6lem9lhta9c702g3gfqzyr799wk6kfkh5hhw9vqmcm3m75zxx5he7xyqyzkrdzc66maa8q4sqq6q0yv In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsvezc3svx29cqer7msrpmc6c7jd4qw5avwvhvvxl9xeasqwxy4xlspr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet5arjf25'>nevent1q…jf25</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>gender is a grammatical term, and also a term that refers to which sex of a sexually dimorphic species a particular organism is.  Only very recently has gender been redefined to be a socially constructed concept, and many of us have problems with that as it presupposes something.<br/> 2022-12-10T09:01:20Z