2026-05-16T21:43:39Z https://njump.me Sosthene_ https://njump.me/npub1ml23mc4kjp83fa98tzkltvpcwgsf7djd5gaka9te8cggqtwzsamqn6a85q https://njump.me/nevent1qqs2fy5ykcxh9a7uqhcklqtq6y3rxlpze09gf0xtlhp8xvnq43jn7dczyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhvwvn93n In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs8w0y5ulym3cf3esr3kzc2gg7xfjt5kq20hf2uccvl2dzkn8dk5ashnghju'>nevent1q…ghju</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Objection, that&#39;s not even from the ps2 era, more like early 90&#39;s<br/>(Nice nonetheless) <br/><br/> 2026-06-10T15:15:48Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsykyjvxst2re3htyuvdw7ddcyaxsh8ealshvkajn8p47ecw7928lszyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhvm3ltg7 I just caught up on nostr silent payment adresses, glad to see people actively exploring the idea. I think it would be *a lot* better than any other proposals that reuses addresses. <br/>It would be even better to have the silent payment wallet generated separately and simply linked to your nostr account because as the NIP author correctly assessed tightly linking your nostr identity and your payment code means leaking one also leak the other. But if being able to generate the silent payment code directly from the npub is hard requirements then yes please do that instead of treating the npub as a taproot key...<br/>A few other thought:<br/>* frigate is indeed out of question (see above), and author doesn&#39;t seem aware there is an alternative called blindbit that serves the tweaks and let client do the scanning itself<br/>* I don&#39;t think that immediately sweeping all incoming transactions to a new address is necessary<br/>* out of band notification of the transaction is possible, but there&#39;s also a proposal for notifications over nostr: <a href="https://gist.github.com/setavenger/a0cd7e71b47ded9fca9c99085130cf2a">https://gist.github.com/setavenger/a0cd7e71b47ded9fca9c99085130cf2a</a><br/>* even without notification waiting for the transaction being mined is probably acceptable for a donation use case<br/><br/>I&#39;m not sure I get the argument about recipient leaking his private scanning key being such a big danger for senders, it literally doesn&#39;t reveal anything else that you couldn&#39;t already figure out by chain analysis.<br/><br/>What would be great would be to have some kind of payjoin baked in to add some obfuscation, but I&#39;m not sure how practical it would be.<br/><br/><span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kyqpq08pv4cg5ag52nq082kd5leu9ffrn2gdg6g4xdwatn73y36uzplmqea46gd" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Alex Gleason</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…46gd</span>)</a></span> I&#39;ve seen you&#39;re implementing BIP375 in Ditto, we&#39;re a couple of sp implementers working on bringing that to rust-bitcoin too, and I think that people at bitcoinjs-lib are working on that too, I think at some point we&#39;d better all take a look at what we&#39;re doing 2026-06-04T11:33:39Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqst2xwvq643sj3p82k7yqjsysalrletvawgq07mggep6zuftd6tjmqzyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhvnfzgd3 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsrp2ydjyepaguccnyh0wcqdfwddqhz8aawte0449spkvt3835a93q2ldte3'>nevent1q…dte3</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>It may be a foot gun, but doint address reuse instead is like going &#34;fuck it I&#39;d rather shoot myself in the head right away&#34; 2026-06-04T08:52:05Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsd64gs4y6ym026gmefk6nglla2zttj0gwanldvdnpq8fuzqf8z3tczyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhvm5akld In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs2csv22eryqf8uz2h3w4swxaqtqwukx99getphj6q5jlfqgg36cxs2z7w00'>nevent1q…7w00</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I think that&#39;s unfortunate there is so much confusion about what silent payments is and what it can/can&#39;t do. It&#39;s about making address reuse not only undesirable but outright *impossible*, and doing it with good UX otherwise it won&#39;t catch up.<br/>What it&#39;s not doing is magically making you immune to other chain analysis heuristics, spyware, surveillance etc. <br/>That may sound underwhelming but address reuse is the one, single worst offender about bitcoin privacy. Solving that is maybe not enough, but it&#39;s absolutely necessary if we want to achieve acceptable privacy at some point.<br/>We will still need some kind of coin history obfuscation, something like coinjoins. And also getting people out of exchanges and other KYC services would help a lot. <br/>As for the scanning server seeing your outputs, it&#39;s exactly the same privacy model as electrum, and the good thing is that you have the choice, you can use another wallet that relies on blindbit like <span itemprop="mentions" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person"><a itemprop="url" href="/nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq36amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wvf5hgcm0d9hx2u3wwdhkx6tpdshsqg8nyhmxh9t2z3qfp9ykfgky0cwfzgu6gcwcjrjem9g7z3eg2kl3wq7439uj" class="bg-lavender dark:prose:text-neutral-50 dark:text-neutral-50 dark:bg-garnet px-1"><span>Dana wallet</span> (<span class="italic">nprofile…39uj</span>)</a></span>, scanning happens client side so slightly more bandwidth/cpu cost for you, but the server doesn&#39;t learn anything. 2026-06-04T08:50:43Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsv0uac3xqp85kv6n0efckr4pl557nt9vwxjuqx5ga5u7u5v0u7e0gzyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhv7hs4l6 In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs0pdwms3dg6c607rp8t7evvru3tl4edrmjexyqgh6s0ca9x95qwgspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtceakgaq'>nevent1q…kgaq</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>No. They use leaked data from multiple recent data breaches, including government services, or outright buy data from rogue elements in tax services or law enforcement. That&#39;s something new, even low profile people with decent opsec are targeted. 2026-05-26T21:36:10Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsyejgdxsekkgrkhz9rjhfurk7wt8sl0yl74j7nyqanllgv09wqvggzyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhvrwsk8h In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsfpurfnwpsg36j433zxm9pmeytkk58hw9qttrwxwdvq7vshw8mghqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsvx8g5g'>nevent1q…8g5g</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>That would be fun if we didn&#39;t already know the result would be &#34;it doesn&#39;t work, so we need to double down on it&#34; 2026-05-21T16:37:46Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsy8uzw58qqma8jgngrecs670h2zzqjtrp9wafw60w4a9pe5rn4faqzyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhvfu7ucr In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqs9y7sx2uw34m3luyjhpjgj0cnlr6h72n59xrk2myfs0us2jeyc3tgpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wchs9j2rpz'>nevent1q…2rpz</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Pas d&#39;inquiétude, un jour nous reviendrons dans le monde physique<br/><br/> <img src="https://image.nostr.build/022afc585cf34695d430513d9b5f1e60c5b686faa93008c5a44a05c24cff2b4e.jpg"> 2026-05-21T09:57:24Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsfsrvadpmlagfx6mrhaagt0wvy5f06xr7khvgf9rpld9wk8qc0ntqzyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhvajhvue In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsx3fuzxdhndh3eqtfw7stwryekk27jmpfpk4p2t5gmf3wdtzy769cpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5hsflw4ek'>nevent1q…w4ek</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>I don&#39;t need to imagine that 2026-05-20T08:39:26Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsr60hyr659jfn83k4ps7a8qvw2nvvftcgzkp7mq8pvfkkfpcxrekgzyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhvdt34mk In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswmam0c38ktrd062tc0y85u052decsep24qpchg9vg34qg09vaqqgpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0lcy2yp'>nevent1q…y2yp</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Slight disagreement on &#34;banks hate this as much as we do&#34;. If that&#39;s the case they are all very chill about that, because they didn&#39;t lobby against nor ever contested any tightening in that fucking nightmare in recent history.<br/><br/>The truth is, you believe you&#39;re the bank client, but you haven&#39;t been for some time now. That&#39;s not with your deposit that the bank earn money, you can go to another one they don&#39;t care, and the service likely sucks as bad anyway. 2026-05-19T15:21:47Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsgaxd5kt5zfngegdgu74zld8uefwxavelg9uucrsgdlqred3jyvfqzyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhvwj82dz In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsy6uazxllyv6zjrnc7s39n8ju26ysuy8pahkszv0z6d3n6hnqajzqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp080m5sd'>nevent1q…m5sd</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>&#34;Deal in cash with the bank&#34; might not be possible depending where you live. In France most banks will simply kick you out if you&#39;re making 2000€ deposits in cash every month, some don&#39;t even allow cash deposit at all 2026-05-19T15:14:43Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqs22xrqhy3x8792l3z4a8tvw8yrzw5lem3t57prh7vxhrewpj6huzczyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhv9ggnrl In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswwv99jjm9m795c0cz9s2hm6her89w7v3203z4q4eckawdwypup4qpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsthltd8'>nevent1q…ltd8</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Multiple exchanges, multiple bank accounts, p2p as much as possible... But that&#39;s indeed extremely annoying. 2026-05-19T13:42:27Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsvqse2syhjzqhm0zemagnd7a3cv2m0ef6g5q03ltqy8ph29762j8gzyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhvpqednv In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsdds2evexxwulf8xm8eh9ageqj8spkhqvqeehcrycq7y2r5crq0xcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsszu5jp'>nevent1q…u5jp</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>That&#39;s regrettable, but I assume they are doing what they can and have other concerns now. I won&#39;t blame them, just help them do differently if I can 2026-05-18T08:18:20Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqstq4jl7jtft2xtws40acdcwfxqjrnnnukzjfx32lnatlf758e9h5czyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhv0zl3ec In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqsquya9e5tze56jxre3d04phszds4p48pd6ruj2s8wqlq3e6ycx82qpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsw0czv3'>nevent1q…czv3</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>No wait he&#39;s got a point <img src="https://image.nostr.build/089d2d97f8609c32040a5cac953481e835df95f46552bd6f6abc5352f9155b9c.jpg"> 2026-05-18T07:22:09Z https://njump.me/nevent1qqsx2l9aeqptk3lnvqwx96mscmtrrazf9fetz5t7lmpqdz2a93etvkczyr0a280zk6gy79855av2mads8pezp8ekfk3rkm540ylppqpdc2rhvvdnpna In reply to <a href='/nevent1qqswrq8rxcejlqn69kmlgv78ap3q2ktfkre85qufxhtxgjd8msc3hzcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj74rg76n'>nevent1q…g76n</a><br/>_________________________<br/><br/>Hi I&#39;m one of silent payments implementers, don&#39;t hesitate to ping me if you want to have a chat and try to figure it out. Doing more address reuse is *not* acceptable at this point. 2026-05-18T07:11:23Z