"Nostr is organic tech. Data will flow more naturally instead of going out and fetch, going out and coming back, going out and coming back."
Arjen & Gigi take a long walk. Recorded October 2025.
Projects & tech mentioned: - Blossom (self-healing links) - noDNS - Tollgate (router-to-router payments) - Wally (Cashu wallet connect) - innpub (positional audio, innpub.dergigi.com) - Citrine (Android local relay) - Amber (Android signer) - nostr-relay-tray - Applesauce (code snippets) - Wingman (remote dev assistant) - CDK (Cashu dev kit) - NIP-03 (OpenTimestamps) - ants (Nostr search) - OTRTA / Routstr (pay for LLM compute with Cashu) - Notedeck & nostrdb - gitworkshop.dev (Nostr-native git collaboration) - Boris (reading and highlighting) - Spotstr & Earthly.city (maps on Nostr)
In this dialogue: - Convincing hzrd to make Blossom more of a protocol - Self-healing links: content addressing like Nostr but for blobs - Blossom pacemaker: a tool that monitors your notes and blobs, rebroadcasts and re-uploads as needed - Local first: local relays, local blossom, local cash, local signers - "I still get shit for the audio quality" - Verschlimmbesserung: the German word for making something worse by trying to improve it - "We should reclaim localhost" - Every Nostr app should work in airplane mode - Citrine roadmap: auto-rebroadcast local events once you're online again - Tollgate v0.2.0: router-to-router payments, released at btc++ - "Some people just hate e-cash" -- "Those people can't be helped" - Cashu and CDK: making it easy for devs to use e-cash without managing wallets - Wally: Cashu wallet connect, like NWC but for e-cash, runs local - Install Wally and you're good to go with everything Nostr - Special-purpose components that do one thing well - Zero configuration: if there's a local relay, use it; if there's a local signer, use it - innpub jukebox: zap the jukebox 200 sats to play a song with positional audio - Moving away from subscription hell: attach e-cash to your requests - noDNS deep dive: traditional DNS records published on Nostr instead of Cloudflare - Self-signed TLS certs verified through Nostr identity - The human approach: ask around your group of friends vs the authoritarian approach: one central authority - Pi-hole would be perfectly fine running noDNS - NIP-03 / OpenTimestamps: indisputable proof of profile existence over time - "We went back to basically having mainframes and thin clients" - The vision: everything is a relay, offline or online shouldn't matter - Damus relay wiped multiple times, nobody cared -- that's resilience - Data should accumulate in the right places by your pattern of usage - The Nosterverse: every client is a different lens, there is no global - "Nostr is organic tech" - Vibe coding setup: Roo Code, Claude, code snippets from hzrd and Pablo - "Claude 4.5 is very agreeable -- I could rile it up and start a revolution together" - The dream flow: just speak voice memos into your phone, code updates 20 minutes later - Screenless coding: the underutilized interface - ants search: took npub.world plus nostr.band, crossbred them - "Software evolution is crossbreeding, not merging back into the original repo" - Maps on Nostr: the social part is what makes Google Maps useful, Nostr can provide it - Sovereign Engineering cohort 5: "we really know what we're doing now" - "The future is already here, we just have a lot of building to do" - "If you want to build something, the easiest way right now is Nostr" - We're gonna make torrents great again
Recorded at 918,425.