I’m curious to hear if you've got an opinion about the Jura Z10 and if it will make as good an americano or caffe latte as a Sage machine, assuming the Sage's grinder is used.
Ultimately, I'm trying to get a good but not necessarily completely perfect espresso at a high convenience and without producing a mess. I'm sure I could get absorbed into brewing espresso, but I don't need a new hobby right now 😄