Ya, sorry mate. I still don't get it
UBI - where does the money to finance it come from. If from tax doesn't seem libertarian
Abolition of state - not exactly exclusive to lib left. May fall under lib right too.
Social ownership - this is what I don't understand, who will manage what, who will take charge. Even on decentralized kind of structure, there will always be someone that is taking more leadership role / key influencer in the decision making. So it will naturally goes towards Auth overtime.
The only thing that I feel may fall under lib left to show how social ownership works in practice are open source protocols. Like bitcoin and nostr. BUT
1. BTC and nostr as Jack said are the only two truly decentralized protocol left. All else have. Become centralised (more like Auth than lib)
2. BTC protocol isn't exactly lib left. It is more toward center. It have things that fall under lib right like incentive for miner, it's not for equality of outcome actually. The security continue to be strong because the incentive works and the adoption continue to go because of NGU tech, not exactly pure social mission
So yeah, I'm still confused. I still think the political spectrum can't have the 4 quadrant. Only 3
Or 3.5, as pure libertarian/anarchy doesn't seem to suit left idea. At least that's how it is to me now. Happy to have anyone to change my mind
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