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"content": "I really don't understand people that are ride or die for [menu bars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menu_bar ). They're not intuitive and it's hard to know what's under what menu. If it wasn't for people being used to them as a convention, the headers don't make any sense to me. File \u003e Quit? Does that really make intuitive sense to people? :meowdizzy: It's also really hard to drill down properly because every menu item gets top billing, unless you have nested menus which are just a pain in the ass to navigate without accidentally clicking off or hovering over the wrong thing.\n\nTo me, macOS's worst aspect is the fact that they built the menu bar into their shell. Is the feature that's crucial to the function of an application in the toolbar of the window you're in? Nope! It's not in the window at all! It's up at the top of the screen for some reason, and who knows what heading it's under. :blobfoxtableflip: Apple really needs to merge their operating system offerings into one OS and offer either a desktop mode or a touch mode, but they can't do that because all of their stupid desktop applications rely on a stupid menu bar that's stupid. :meowpout:\n\nAlso, Cosmic's decision to go with menu bars merged with header bars is really off-putting to me. It feels like the worst of both worlds. :neofox_thonk: At least to me, it makes the interface design language look really inconsistent and confused.\n\nDoes any of this actually matter? No. :meowuwu: Does it drive me a little insane and make me feel like I'm taking crazy pills when people vehemently defend them as being a good user interface? YES. :blobfoxtableflip:\n\n#UI #UX #UserInterface #UserExperience #Menu #MenuBar #MenuBars #FOSS #Linux #macOS #Apple #Cosmic #CosmicDE",
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It's also really hard to drill down properly because every menu item gets top billing, unless you have nested menus which are just a pain in the ass to navigate without accidentally clicking off or hovering over the wrong thing.
Apple really needs to merge their operating system offerings into one OS and offer either a desktop mode or a touch mode, but they can't do that because all of their stupid desktop applications rely on a stupid menu bar that's stupid. 
At least to me, it makes the interface design language look really inconsistent and confused.
Does it drive me a little insane and make me feel like I'm taking crazy pills when people vehemently defend them as being a good user interface? YES.