@Shoq Well, something is already happening, and more will happen this year. Much of it will stay unnoticed by most Mastodon users, though, because just none of it will happen on Mastodon. Here's an attempt at a prognosis:
If anything, Mastodon itself will develop further away from the rest of the Fediverse. But this rest of the Fediverse is growing stronger, and it doesn't necessarily have to go on aping what Mastodon does, especially not if it breaks the ActivityPub standard. We may reach a point at which lack of compatibility between Mastodon and the rest of the Fediverse can finally be blamed on Mastodon. And we may reach it this year.
The most obvious change visible to Mastodon's eyes is probably happening around the Forkeys. Firefish, 2023's shooting star of the Fediverse, may join FoundKey in Fediverse Heaven unless Kainoa resurfaces. Whether or not this happens, the legacy is already being taken over by the Misskey forks Sharkey and Catodon and the former Firefish fork Iceshrimp which has been rebased to more up-to-date Misskey itself. None of the three aim to be minimalist projects.
Hubzilla has a hot year ahead of it, at least I hope so. The Hubzilla Association has been founded recently, taking care of organisation, publicity etc. Its very own President is working on his own third-party advancements, especially new UIs, both general-purpose and specialised AFAIK. A blog-style UI is in development elsewhere. I'd be surprised if none of them saw the light of day this year. Not to mention main dev Mario's own plans for Hubzilla 9 which may come more quickly if the Association manages to reel in a few more devs.
And then there's (streams), as unnoticed by the Mastodon crowd as Hubzilla. Mike not only wants to turn its backend inside-out and rework it entirely, but he has already begun. Knowing Mike and how fast he is, (streams) may be even more awesome than it is already now before summer.
So, what I'd really like to see is something that, while highly unlikely, might catch the attention of not few Mastodon users, namely Mike's proposals being officially accepted into the ActivityPub standard, including but not limited to nomadic identity. Mastodon wouldn't adopt any of them if this happened, at least not right away. But the Forkeys certainly would. If they managed a way to go nomadic without adopting the channel model from Hubzilla and (streams), they'd have another big advantage over Mastodon. Enough stories by Forkey users of how they survived the sudden death of their home instance because they had at least one clone, and more and more Mastodon users would be sold, especially those who had to "move" manually because their home had announced its shutdown or simply vanished.
But again, this is unlikely to happen.
More realistically, third-party add-ons for (streams) being developed, and be it Hubzilla apps being forked and ported.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forkeys #Firefish #Sharkey #Catodon #Iceshrimp
Jupiter Rowland /
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2024-01-03 18:02:30
in reply to nevent1q…xecy
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