I’m amazed John Perkins is still alive… I think I saw him first when the Zeitgeist movies came out… worth watching those if you haven’t
Hero of Humanity for sure
Here’s the fountain_app (npub1v5u…n0v5) link for those that use it 👍
https://fountain.fm/episode/hQNP2FkI5KJL6HwCfqu7