First off, I don’t trust anything on infowars, they’re criminally dishonest and ran a campaign of attacking the family members of people killed in mass shootings. They aren’t interested in a honest debate about politics or society, instead are trying to bring about authoritarianism by making it so nobody can believe anything from anybody. There plenty of right wing people and movements who are engaged in honest debate about what’s best for society, and I respect that even if I disagree with their views. I’ve been following it since it launched in 1999, Infowars is not that.
Secondly, in the case of New Zealand the changes in excess deaths are primarily due to the way in which that level dropped at the lockdowns and boarder closures in 2020 and 2021, only to rebound after the boarders opened up. Basically the public health measures taken due to covid kept elderly alive and then when things opened up again, those most vulnerable passed away.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/the-whole-truth/132369176/fact-checking-claims-about-new-zealands-2022-death-rate
New Zealand consistently ranks as one of the most transparent and least corrupt countries in the world. There has been so much data released and so much public information that becomes overwhelming. The country has a strong independent press and vigrous public debate. The critiques come from a tiny minority of neo-nazis (yes swastika tattoo neo-nazis), white supremacists, and Christian nationalists. New Zealand has become the target of covid conspiracies precisely because it was so effective at dealing with covid.
Most New Zealanders wanted more enforcement of vaccine rules than what the government implemented. Most Kiwis wanted the borders to stay closed. There was no legal requirement to get vaccinated, but most kiwis would happily have voted to jail vaccine skeptics. The government acted with restraint and respected the views of the small minority of critics.
I feel that New Zealand acted based on good science and public policy in ways that reflected the opinion of the overwhelming majority of the population. Anytime I saw the policies of NZ criticized from overseas, the local opinion was that the government hadn’t gone far enough.
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2023-12-06 01:50:47
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