đź“… Original date posted:2015-10-02
đź“ť Original message:FWIW the "coining" I am referring to is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7972.msg116285#msg116285
OK, with that, here goes. Firstly some terminology. I'm going to call these
things SPV clients for "simplified payment verification". Headers-only is
kind of a mouthful and "lightweight client" is too vague, as there are
several other designs that could be described as lightweight like RPC
frontend and Stefans WebCoin API approach
At that time nobody used the term "SPV wallet" to refer to what apps like
BreadWallet or libraries like bitcoinj do. Satoshi used the term "client
only mode", Jeff was calling them "headers only client" etc. So I said, I'm
going to call them SPV wallets after the section of the whitepaper that
most precisely describes their operation.
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik at gmail.com> wrote:
> To reduce the list noise level, drama level and promote inclusion, my own
> personal preference (list admin hat: off, community member hat: on) is for
> temporal bans based on temporal circumstances. Default to
> pro-forgiveness. Also, focus on disruption of the list as a metric, rather
> than focusing on a specific personality.
>
> I do think we're at a bit of a point where we're going around in circles.
>
> Given the current reddit hubbub, a bit of a cooling off period is IMO
> advisable before taking any further action.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Tao Effect via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear list,
>>
>> Mike has made a variety of false and damaging statements about Bitcoin,
>> of which this is but one:
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev <
>> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> I coined the term SPV so I know exactly what it means, and bitcoinj
>> implements it, as does BreadWallet (the other big SPV implementation).
>>
>>
>> On his website Vinumeris.com he writes:
>>
>> Vinumeris was founded in 2014 by Mike Hearn, one of the developers of the
>> Bitcoin digital currency system.
>>
>>
>> On plan99.net there are several embedded videos that refer to him a
>> “core developer” of Bitcoin. And now it seems he is claiming to be Satoshi.
>>
>> It seems to me that Mike’s emails, false statements (like the one above
>> about coining SPV), arguments, and his attempts to steal control of Bitcoin
>> via the contentious Bitcoin XT fork, represent actions that have been
>> harming and dividing this community for several years now.
>>
>> In many communities/tribes, there exists a line that, once crossed,
>> results in the expulsion of a member from the community.
>>
>> So, two questions:
>>
>> 1. Does the Bitcoin-devs mailing list have such a line?
>> 2. If so, does the community feel that Mike Hearn has crossed it? (I
>> personally feel he has. Multiple times.)
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts,
>> Greg Slepak
>>
>> --
>> Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with
>> the NSA.
>>
>>
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