ODELL (npub1qny…95gx) in the most recent Rabbit Hole Recap (npub10ut…xdlq) you spend a few minutes addressing accusations regarding your integrity around simultaneously supporting SeedSigner (npub17ty…3mgl) and having a vested financial interest in the success of Cold Card. You said the SeedSigner project is “incredibly important” but continue in the same breath to deny they are competitors and described SeedSigner as only reasonable to be used as a fallback if we lived in a world where devices like Cold Card don’t exist. Far from an endorsement.
You have historically supported the SeedSigner project and I appreciate the support. There’s 100+ ways the SeedSigner project could be better. Your most notable grievance of SeedSigner seems to be solely focused on physical security attributes when comparing the two air gapped Bitcoin signing devices. Specifically you don’t like that SeedSigner doesn’t have a secure element.
Secure elements are great tech, but you never cover the actual trade offs on RHR. You gloss over how Cold Card is verifying firmware at boot on behalf of the user. You don’t discuss the trade offs at all. The verification of firmware at boot on a Cold Card requires trust in Coinkite. The user isn’t verifying, Coinkite is. You also make it sound like it’s an impossible task to verify firmware for SeedSigner.
IMO you’re getting sucked into stupid polarizing debates around Cold Card vs SeedSigner. I think Cold Card and SeedSigner are both great in their own ways. They make different trade offs and actually complement each other really well in a multisig setup with Sparrow Wallet. I personally have no issue with you recommending a Cold Card over a SeedSigner if you prefer the trade offs. Totally reasonable if you asked me. It’s way more important people self custody Bitcoin using cold storage.
newtonick / Nick Klockenga
npub1rf…l7wrt
2024-09-02 21:08:30
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2024-09-02 21:08:30Event JSON
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