pippellia
Pip the social graph guy
I demystify the social graph so you can learn faster and use this powerful tool more effectively.
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2024-06-29T06:48:46Z Event JSON
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Last Notes npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia I meant looking in order of size. Can I ask what did you do after seeing this graph? For example, did you start following more people after seeing it? npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia honestly it's remarkable. However I am a bit uncomfortable with the attack surface of the prime, so I'll probably buy a passport next. Waiting for the 2nd gen so you guys can iron things out. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia yes, that's correct as far as I understand. Musig and frost allow/will allow more privacy (txs all look the same), cheaper tx (less data because there is only one signature) and compatibility with taproot and all that cool script paths with timelocks and shit npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia Well said. However I think the lack of real business models is the primary reason why most bitcoin and nostr projects will fail. One cannot just try to make a great experience and hope to monetize it later. Not without endless VC money, and rarely even with it. A great way is solving *painful* problems, and charge for it. #note1zn5…7t39 npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia @npub180c…h6w6 the SimplePool suffer from race conditions. https://m.primal.net/MgIn.png npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia wtf @npub1dtg…up6m ? Onchain only to pay 20$ for shipping? https://m.primal.net/LloF.png npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia For this particular usecase, I am not super bullish because: 1. micro payments (ecash, lightning) allow services to monetize directly. This was not possible before due to a technical limitation, so businesses got creative and explored a whole bunch of indirect monetization avenues. 2. even for public and free services, something simpler like running pagerank-ish algos (pagerank, personalized pagerank, trustrank...) on the follow graph/zap graph would do the job. Btw I am actually building 2. There is defo a place for "proof of rich" in identity. For example giving a free luxury service only to rich people. E.g. try this yacht for free! Everyone would enjoy a free day on the see, so the business must filter. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia I can totally see this mechanism being integrated into a nice business model. E.g. a company offering banks and lenders these proofs for certain users that want to use their services. Or, some form of "proof of rich" in digital identities. Bots can't easily accumulate wealth npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia this is the way sir 🫡 npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia lol I actually found that joke really funny npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia the perfect post doesn't exi... #nevent1q…ga6f npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia the perfect post doesn't exi... npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia well, yes, but not everyone needs the multiple column feature. I thought this was targeted to social media managers, which would benefit the most from such a tool and would probably pay for it. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia real fast. Who is the target user? npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia ohh yeah npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia fascinating npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia No Comment/Quote boost section? npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia love it. Weird and fun, as it should be! npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia this is a superpower. Censorship resistant emojis! 😝 npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia how can I add it to my reactions on Amethyst? npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia ahahahah lmao npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia is this true @nprofile…qdrm? npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia I absolutely agree. Even for the WoT angle, you can't build meaningful metrics if the user is not aware of what he's publishing. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia ohh, so it wasn't Amethyst. Okay, gotcha, and thank you. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia yes, but I've used it like 2 times. And to be honest both times I had problems so I wouldn't recommend. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia cool, website, but I still don't understand. I don't remember leaving a review, and in fact I haven't. No reviews there, no likes. So why am I recommending something that I don't recommend? I have shared links from highliter, but that's it. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia hey @nprofile…vzaw, why do I know "recommend" Highlighter? https://image.nostr.build/c5ac3f45a3fb170f061f37f74a777352522bd37d0a6228bc84c49caf19a3814d.jpg npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia *do u have npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia i have an online wallet with more than pocket money? npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia curious to know your take @nprofile…4tc2, since you are building a relay if I remember correctly npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia interesting, cc @nprofile…vpy4 npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia wooow npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia loool 🤣 #nevent1q…qu5v npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia he has connections npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia this can be radically improved by using what I am working on. Using the distance as the metric for filtering (if distance > 2, filter) is suboptimal, as it limits discover ability. What's better is a filter based on personalized Pagerank ( if PP < threshold, filter). PP looks both at the distance and at the "flux", meaning how many path exists thay connects you to another npub. So, PP can be: - more flexible, because you can choose the threshold in a continuoum - improves the discovery (by for example allowing npubs at 3 hops if they are "high quality") npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia easy one, our designer farmer @npub149p…722q ! npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia shouldn't the nprofile contain the ln-address, and other metadata? npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia Does this effect the number of trusted active users (either daily or weekly?) npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia I am not sure the data is correct. If we look at the retention rate of trusted pubkeys, that's too low imo to just be the effect of spam. @npub1xdt…ntxy +95% leave the first day just because they see some Reply Guy? Seems way too much compared to historical data. https://m.primal.net/LRDd.jpg npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia Gotcha. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia great idea. Maybe consider creating a Geyser campaign #nevent1q…z9w4 npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia lovely, thanks for sharing npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia what are u working on? Is this for the aggregator? npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia oh right, I am convinced. Do u recommend some kind of preparation before doing it? I'll go with 3 days for the first time. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia I never did more than 1 day of fasting. Do u think it makes sense to reduce calorie intake for a few days (still eating, but not much) and than fast for let's say 2 days? This seems more approachable in mind npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia @npub1zuu…c2uc u should hike in Tenerife if u haven't already. Beautiful npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia @npub1zuu…ucun should hike in Tenerife if I haven't already. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia staggering https://m.primal.net/LMPX.mp4 npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia It doesn't work. Any personal judging/recommendations system is useless if you don't express any opinion (who u follow, what u zap...). In that case, global Pagerank is more useful. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia that WoT score is similar (but worse) than personalized Pagerank. Advantages of PP: - the weight of a follow is proportional to the PP and inversely proportional to the size of the follow list. (those that follow 5k people have less impact than those that follow 500, given the same PP) - PP give u information about everyone u are connected to, not just 2 hops. (However, by how it works it favours people closer to u). This means it can be used in recommendations systems npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia amazing 😍 npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia I visited Munich quite a few times the last year. Amazing city, super green, really good quality of life, not that more expensive than north Italy with the exception of houses npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia super cool! cc @nprofile…q3w9 #nevent1q…7day npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia GG mate. It has been and will be useful to me, to learn how to do my stuff in Go. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia the most based kid in the forest (?) npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia Maybe it's possible, but it is quite complex because the mint would have to track how many times a "chain of banknotes" is moved around, and I am not sure if that's compatible with "pay to npub" types of tx, which work differently. Even if possible, that's too complex imo. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia yes, the mint fee is to compensate for the work it does. If two people are paying each other across mints, then they'll pay for the mint fees + lightning fees To understand why let's look at the steps involved in a normal transaction. 1) Alice has an ecash banknote on MintA 2) Alice sends it Bob At this point, both Alice and Bob own the ecash banknote. This is problematic, because Bob wants to have unilateral control of that banknote. To do that Bob 3) Request a new banknote from MintA. MintA invalidate the old banknote, and gives a new one to Bob, that only he owns. So to prevent MintA being DDoS attacked, MintA charges a fee for every request. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia unless u use your own lightning node, yes. Nah, I don't think we need to fix this. If communications needs to be cheap, just don't use payments npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia all wallets now have higher fees, even custodial ones I think npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia if 1 sat is too high (right now), then it's better so send the signal in another way I think npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia 1 sat fee solves many DDoS scenarios, and it's not a problem for the users I think npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia maybe u can get it for free is u login with the university npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia each is 41.5kg, filled with half cement and half polystyrene. Full cement would have been ~83kg each, way too much. I've also made two wheelbarrow tires, full cement is 19.5kg npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia Listening to bitcoin review without falling asleep https://m.primal.net/LEUc.jpg npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia spettacolo npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia 1) nope 2) she is always right npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia my mother does npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia noice! npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia Great tech, but maybe just put down the damn phone and enjoy the ride #note1w7h…hmx4 npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia all good questions, reposting for visibility cc: @nprofile…qdrm @nprofile…9zgs @nprofile…ej4c #naddr1qq…csrq npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia fair points npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia why using jack? npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia strange post I agree, but I hope u get better sir npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia nice meme npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia this too 🤣 npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia oh yeah, me too. I think the crux of it is, because it's a trusted relationshp (with the admin/owner/relay/whatever), they don't agree on how to implement it. If it were trustless (which can't be) they would agree more I think npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia to recap and clarify my thoughts @nprofile…a6k8 - if one follows (= meaning gives attention to) a spammer, that will impact the view I have on him/her. - if one follows child porn shit, that too will impact my view. - if one follows vitalik, which I think it's a shitcoiner, that means they give him attention, which is not too bad. My personal takes, which I think are coherent with the "gives attention to", which is what a follow is. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia mmm, you are right. Follows just means "I am interested", doesn't mean "I trust in domain X", neither "I endorse". And that's fine, as long as you don't use follows to derive something more than "Web Of Not Spam". Clearly there is a line. If you follow child pornography, I'll deduce you are disgusting, but that's on the extreme. For anything that has to do with value, I would just look at zaps. Context specific lists? Better than trust attestations, but I doubt users will want to: a) produce them and keep them updated b) publish them publicly I think we should not assume people to do things to help others altruistically. Sharing your friends list to help others find good people isn't going to be super popular I think. Zapping is different, because u help someone that has already given value to u, let's say the creator, and it's seamless. idk, many unorganized thoughts here @nprofile…u9av npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia Nothing better than Jon, Pablo and Banana talk shit 🤣 https://fountain.fm/episode/LBVT42qHgTDCJXWcnJ93 #nevent1q…62q9 npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia well, in meatspace your reputation is partly impacted by who your friends are. npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia ouch, take care :) npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia finally! #note1ca9…nqtu npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia mmm, interesting. wdyt @npub1t3g…upxq ahahahah npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia welcome! glad we are more numerous now npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia my buddy @nprofile…nfxp is pretty good with illustrations. Just saying npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia I was about to ask. It should be similar to C, ops Latin npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia I would say either with spam mass estimation (http://infolab.stanford.edu/~zoltan/publications/gyongyi2006link-tr.pdf) or anti-trust rank (http://i.stanford.edu/~kvijay/krishnan-raj-airweb06.pdf) Both are pagerank-like algos but here having a high-value means bad. However, these black-lists aren't the solution imo, because updating them costs more than creating a new npub for the attacker. Conversely, white-lists are the way to go, because the cost is on the attacker (work hard to be included in such lists). npub176p7sup477k5738qhxx0hk2n0cty2k5je5uvalzvkvwmw4tltmeqw7vgup pippellia World of Tanks @npub1t3g…upxq