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I am therefore i think…i think

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2023-12-04 08:45:11

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and you keep it *until the retrieval system INEVITABLY breaks*
causes:
- broken fuel pump
- system rot
- torn/leaky fuel lines
- removal of system from capsule
- puncture of capsule and loss of fuel
The knowledge is usually lost and irretrievable in these cases.

2023-12-04 08:33:08

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ummm you're not pro palestine, this is tge thing which is as expectec like bud are u made of rock or something? Lol
Also he wont respond now, he's not open minded, just argumentative and a damn good asset for hamas for sure.
You are now less than human unless you repent and change your ways. May the dogs piss on your grave and knaw your knucklebones, infidel.
Btc zero feels good about hating you now lolz k fistpump byee

2023-12-04 08:24:27

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total rabbit trail but this is something i struggle with: do we hate hitler or an idea that we call hitler?
Like, i never met hitler and he's been dead a long time.

2023-12-04 08:15:51

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Wasn't asking u bud, i've hijacked your convo lol
We're 2 intellectuals doing some thinking
Lets still be frens k byeeee

2023-12-04 08:13:38

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But girls were killed. Fucking mind bending that we're all hung up on who is lying most about what while there are families dealing with the brutal murder of their girls in the flower of their lives

2023-12-04 07:54:58

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Okay so i'm going to push a little, candidly: would you say it is morally ok to hate someone because of his ideas. Not his deeds not his unchoosable parts but his ideas?

2023-12-04 07:50:51

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But i hope you chech out s2 very usefuk

2023-12-04 07:50:28

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Ha re martial arts no point to our argument just shows how little each should assume about the other. you're cool!

2023-12-04 07:47:48

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I'm glad you condemn the october 7 killings then. And i'm glad you condemn hama's stated goals of killing all israelis. And i'm glad you condemn netinyahu's and the idf's desire to wipe out palestinians. We are on the same page. If the usa and israel had taken a calmer approach, instead of roiling up war and calling for war, the outcome would be many fewer lives lost.
Just to clarify:
i responded to your post because you said this is how to deal with israel supporter. I said no, he has faulty logic, do not make yourself look like fool. Grahm wasn't a fair target, he was an emotional fool.
James specifically said not to talk about the context. Re watch the clip.. he laser-focused on "these four words" like an ass
Both men are jackasses taking advantage of a tragedy.
As a former chrisian you maybe know of Just War Theory. The protected classes are identical to islam. USA began ignoring in WWii when bombing civilian infrastructure in Berlin.
Then the atomic bombs.
It is built in to ALL military doctrines that civilian infrastructure can be legitimate target.
You will never agree that israel is allowed to kill palestinians because you view the israelis as the true invaders.
But i hope you can float up and loom down on yourself and others
See how the other guy believes just as strongly and with just as legitimate a starting point as you that he is right and you are the one supporting murderers.
You both are trying to protect the innocent but the innocent are different people. And so you try to kill one another to protect your people.
When you each truly love your people, you can justify mind blowing (pun not intended) levels of violence against the people of the other side.
you should sub to the hamas telegram and really read their website. pretend in your mind you are an outsider and listen to what they say.
Sorry for the detail and nuance but as you say it is important.
Hamas when they killed noncombatants and when they endorse terrorism, show that they will "stop at nothing" to get what they want.
israel when they bomb one of the most densly populated areas on earth and creates the most oppressive surveillance state other than china shows that they will "stop at nothing" to get whag they want.
Pallestinians should fight for themselves and israelis should fight for themselves.
But war is very very economically beneficial in the short term. General lee knew this, and before him, william shakespeare before him roman emporer titus, and before him chinese emporer qin shi huang.
Powerful people love war.
They want the rest of us to take a side.
you and i don't know enough to say if this airstrike or that airstrike deliberately targeted civilians, or if it was a legitimate surgical blow.
And we live in an era of 5th gen warfare where everything we are told is twisted for propoganda. The lack of actual information coming out of gaza and israel makes this worse. Much of the intel from both sides is heavily manipulated and the interpretation even more so.
This war is hurting many young people and refreshing the ranks of angry genocidal murderes like ben on both sides. it's a thousand year old conflict that this recent development isn't going yo fix. It'll just keep going as boys filled with hate and pain try to relieve that strain in their head by killing the boys from the othet side
If you truly care about the actual children, go and actually help the actual children. I do not care about them, i care about the people around me. I dont have time in the day to care about palestinian kids, or north korean kids, or kids in thr congo or guatemala or new york city slums or the 14 yo prostitutes in LA. I am thankful everyday for temporary peace my people experience and i work to serve the people i know who are in need and in pain.
An israeli life is worth a palestinian life is worth any other life. Hate of a human is wrong. It is never justified.
so in summary i say both sides should kill as many of the other side as possible, and try to avoid non-coms / protect their own, and finish this thing. but the rest of us should expect way higher than normal civilian cansualties because of the geography, demographics, tools being used, strategies, etc. Noncom casualties are tragic and targeting civilians is wrong. But there's no number where we say "stop, change tactics" it's not 10% or 1% or 100,000. We kill until the other side surrenders so that they are not annihilated.

2023-12-04 06:54:18

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You are somewhat reasonable but you don't write like someone who understands war or maybe even violence. i am going to guess that you don't know how to fight with your hands. Is that right?
You might appreciate S2 underground on telegram NOV04 and OCT31. He asks "How did israel intelligence fail to detect buildup of hamas invasion force, but then suddenly has exact gps coordinates for missle strikes?
He is active US army intelligence so yes "people" are talking about it, the world is a big place

2023-12-04 06:36:18

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I asked if hate was okay, not if it was possible.
I respectfully ask again, is it ever okay to hate another human? Not the deeds, but the human being himself?

2023-12-03 15:57:02

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Ah I mean Logically good, Logically bad
Not morally

2023-12-03 15:51:46

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is hate of humans by other humans ever okay?
this man doesn't know "nice people" who have killed children. he is talking about regular everyday people who are uneducated or brainwashed. he is not being compassionate or forgiving
Qur'an 41:34, 42:40

2023-12-03 15:45:29

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i will reply later but briefly your example is a good one of avoiding the question . but the question that was asked in the interview was not simple like that question .
i think the main question is ***how many civilian casualties are acceptable ?***
ideally zero
ideally there is no war and the invaders turn around and go home
but there is a war and there are civilians in the crossfire
so how many is it okay to kill ?
by what metric do we measure the effort in avoiding noncomb casualties say "you didn't try enough" or "you tried enough" ?

2023-12-03 15:40:35

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no i have never been and will never be in agreement with the murder of anyone. particularly noncombatants.
i respectfully ask these two questions :
are you in agreement with the murder of innocent civilians in order to resist occupation?
and based on the above do you think that james' argument is logically flawed ? if not can you tell me where i am wrong in my thinking ?

2023-12-03 04:51:57

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"People i will never talk to again" sums it up. My mans fullo hate can see it inis eyes

2023-12-03 04:42:55

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I may or may not be muslim. That is irrelevant. This is simple logic.
"we have sworn…to destroy Hamas. Nothing will stop us"
That is a very broad brush stroke. It is not nuanced.
Did he mean "we will drop a nuclear bomb on them!"
No. For many good reasons.
Therefore, there are parameters to the destruction of Hamas.
He did not say "we will stop at nothing" (i.e. we will do anything)
He said that nothing will stop them. They will continue within parameters (perhaps, preserving as much israeli life as possible, remaining mindful of civilians) until ultimately Hamas is destroyed.
James is trying to use this statement to cry "genocide!". That's logically broken.

2023-12-03 04:30:41

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James is a smart man and Grahm left his reason behind and got roiled up. Perfect show of how a calm bad position can beat a frazzled good one.