Jonathan D. Cope, Esq.

Alaskan expat who is a proud father to one autistic, and very brainy, transgender daughter, one heterosexual son, and one gay son

Olympia, Washington

Background: Copper River Basin Alaska
I saw why salmon swim upstream to die in Heaven

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2024-08-05 15:46:01

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@npub14s3…pjsw
Here is a series of posts that address the exploitation problems caused by traditional capitalism:
https://awscommunity.social/@Cirdan/112899562827348442

2024-06-24 05:28:30

https://cdn.masto.host/awscommunitysocial/media_attachments/files/112/669/471/822/283/669/original/0bd9dc6cd6816d5d.webp

2024-06-23 01:14:20

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@npub10nf…0km0
I agree. Traditional capitalism is not inevitable. If you want to compare it to being like a cancer or an invasive weed that should be eradicated, I'm on board.

2024-06-21 06:08:19

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@npub1yxd…afdw
I guess Roundup was the pig-in-the-poke that Bayer bought when it acquired Monsanto. The ensuing litigation couldn't have happened to a more deserving group of companies.

2024-06-20 01:18:30

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@npub1h3h…9hxt
I assume you are in Australia. Good luck with your revolution down there.

2024-06-20 01:16:37

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@npub1h3h…9hxt
No. That is not correct. Communal capitalism and Commons Capitalism do not. They promote a democratic process and equitable distribution of property.

2024-06-20 01:14:50

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@npub1h3h…9hxt
Rojava is only sbout the size of Vermont and New Hampshire combined. It's strucure can't be sustained over a country the size of the United States. The rest you mention is wishful thinking. Sorry.

2024-06-20 01:11:31

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@npub1h3h…9hxt
By the way, Commons Capitalism promotes a middle middle-class. Fascism and traditional capitalism promote peasantry, a lower class, and, at most, a lower middle class.

2024-06-20 00:58:20

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@npub1h3h…9hxt
So your approach is what, revolution?

2024-06-19 17:06:14

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@npub1h3h…9hxt
As they say in Texas, professor Reich is all hat and no cattle. Let him propose ways to counter profligate corporate abuse, not just complain about it.

2024-06-04 07:09:22

ATTENTION PRO-CAPITALISTS
I have posted a 3,500 word summary about Commons Capitalism, an economic system that could replace present day Capitalism and raise the standard of living of tens of millions of American workers. I'm currently researching and riding a paper on it.
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2024-06-02 13:40:36

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@npub17rr…7wsy
It is logical. You need to read what's written and understand it first. As I said they all dismiss it. All of them are wrong, because none of them understand it. Their comments beg the question, "What part of Commons Capitalism doesn't work?"

2024-06-02 13:15:39

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@npub17rr…7wsy
Nothing of the sort. If you want to familiarize yourself with Commons Capitalism, go to:
https://awscommunity.social/@Cirdan/112509414520700948

2024-06-02 06:55:06

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@npub17ss…76l0
Here's the link again:
https://awscommunity.social/@Cirdan/112509414520700948

2024-06-02 06:27:06

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@npub17ss…76l0
No, it's not socialism rebranded either. Go read it. I think you will appreciate its approach.

2024-06-02 06:06:32

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@npub17ss…76l0
Don't know if you've read about Commons Capitalism but you might want to look at it at:
https://awscommunity.social/@Cirdan/112509414520700948

2024-05-30 05:49:44

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The inaugural purchase of a target company from a Seller could be financed by the CCE obtaining 70% of the purchase price through syndicated loans secured by the assets of the target company. The remaining 30% of the purchase price could be financed through the Seller taking back a promissory note and security agreement giving the Seller a second priority security interest in the company assets and providing a stand down agreement to the syndicated lenders.
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2024-05-30 05:48:26

FINANCING THE FIRST CCE
The first CCE could receive financing to purchase its first target company by using a combination of asset-based lending, syndicated loans, guaranties, and/or seller financing. No state funding or shareholder investment would be required. After the first CCE had satisfied repayment of the debt of acquiring its first target company, which would take 3-5 years, the CCE would be fully funded to start paying prevailing wages and social benefits to workers.
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2024-05-29 23:10:17

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@npub10nf…0km0
You have my answer to all those questions.

2024-05-27 07:09:14

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The CCE and its component entities, the corporation and the subsidiary (formed as a for-profit corporation or limited liability company), can do business in all fifty states by having the entities register as foreign entities in any state where they want to conduct business.
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2024-05-27 07:08:01

FORMATION AND OPERATION OF A CCE
As mentioned previously, a CCE requires two entities, a not-for-profit corporation and a subsidiary entity. The most important requirement in their formation is that neither can have any individuals as shareholders, members or other stakeholders. The primary reason for this is the corporation and its subsidiary cannot distribute net profits or be responsible to any shareholders, members, or other stakeholders.
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2024-05-27 04:13:02

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Each division would be represented by a working director who would be a member of the board of directors of the corporation. The director for the corporation division would be appointed by its president. The second director would be appointed by the president of the subsidiary. The third director would be elected by the active workers of both the corporation and the subsidiary.
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2024-05-26 23:44:14

ORIGIN OF TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
The concept of traditional capitalism, i.e., ownership of the means of production (including the earned surplus) by individuals, is an inchoate concept developed out of the age of Feudalism. People have known about the inequities created by this species of property ownership since the Enclosure (starting in the 1200s with the Statute of Merton) and capitalism (starting in the 1600s).
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2024-05-26 04:07:17

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@npub1aq2…4nfw
If Trump wins the Presidency, they need to livestream a head of lettuce to see whether it or Democracy will last longer.

2024-05-22 03:26:03

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@npub1yu7…vgeu
I've used CoPilot for some research. My best description is that, for what I'm doing, it performs like a lazy bum.

2024-05-20 14:34:17

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@npub199u…a2vj
Thanks, and good luck to you.

2024-05-20 13:10:44

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@npub199u…a2vj
If you have any interest:
https://awscommunity.social/@Cirdan/112471270848205530

2024-05-20 04:44:01

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@npub1h3h…9hxt
That's caused by traditional capitalism, not #CommonsCapitalism which would have the opposite effect on poverty.

2024-05-11 03:24:47

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@npub1ghd…2kta
"Indians embrace 'replacement theory' to anger native Americans"
Somehow the latter phrase makes more sense than what the GOP is embracing, and it doesn't sound racist at all.

2024-05-06 08:55:33

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@npub1l9v…yzxn
How do you generate a tax base to build a hospital? An airport? Provide for the common defemse?

2024-05-06 08:46:53

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@npub1l9v…yzxn
And how to you propose to build hospitals? Airports? Provide for the common defense of the United States?

2024-05-06 08:39:18

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@npub1l9v…yzxn
Then how do you propose to have an economy the size of the US?

2024-05-06 08:36:22

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@npub1l9v…yzxn
I'm curious, do you think all profits should go to the workers or that no profits should be made at all?

2024-05-06 08:34:29

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@npub1l9v…yzxn
And no, it's definitely not (anarcho) syndicalism, especially because workers have little say over the Commons Capitalism Entity among many other reasons.

2024-05-05 17:22:31

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@npub155z…23rf
The United States capitalists would do their very best to rape and pillage the UK if they could. Don't read that Trump administration would be fair and equitable in trading with the UK.

2024-05-04 00:06:42

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@npub1s83…73sd
Most of the small businesses I represented were just trying to stay alive, but I understand where you are coming from.

2024-05-03 00:35:49

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@npub14s3…pjsw
I would amend that to say no corporation or entity, whether directly or indirectly, owned by individuals should own the means of production.

2024-04-29 22:02:02

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@npub1l89…6nlg
I can understand your sentiment; however, such concepts, e.g., libraries, are so vital to society, they must be advocated, notwithstanding any capitalist's positions to the contrary.

2024-04-21 12:37:12

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@npub19tp…rv5m
I get tired of saying this. There an economic system that does this. It's called Commons Capitalism.

2024-04-18 14:01:36

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@npub1yxk…h68p
No it's not contradictory. Commons Capitalism is an equitable alternative to traditional capitalism. Read about it at #CommonsCapitalismPrimer

2024-04-15 10:39:14

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@npub1q48…ulnd
Sadly, I'm reminded of how slave owners would keep track of how much produce each slave would pick to maximize the plantation's output.

2024-04-14 15:51:23

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@npub1788…9nku
Thank you for your thoughts. Traditional Capitalism leaves a lot to be desired, and I can understand that aspects of communism would be desirable.

2024-04-12 16:08:31

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@npub1jq9…jqnl
Pardon me for recoining a phrase, but why don't we call it "trickle down capitalism" to put traditional capitalism into perspective?

2024-04-11 05:13:21

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@npub1mav…csjc
I'm using Samsung Android. But, yeah going to your desktop is a good idea.

2024-04-11 05:09:37

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@npub1mav…csjc
https://www.ccmss.org.mx/wp-content/uploads/The-community-as-Entrepreneurial-firm.pdf

2024-04-11 04:00:14

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@npub1mav…csjc
Try this:
https://www.ccmss.org.mx/wp-content/uploads/The-community-as-Entrepreneurial-firm.pdf

2024-04-10 22:27:13

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@npub1q48…ulnd
Here's an approach to give workers an equitable distribution of wages:
Search for #CommonsCapitalismPrimer

2024-04-10 05:56:55

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Finally, Worker's Representatives provide verticle oversight of all management exercise of power over personnel and alienation of property.

2024-04-10 05:56:00

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Each CCE has a minimum of five working directors: The first is appointed by the president of the nonprofit corporation (Nonprofit Liaison). The second is appointed by the subsidiary entity (Entity Liaison). The third is elected by the workers (Benefits Liaison). The fourth is elected by the remaining directors (Pension Liaison). The fifth is elected by the remaining directors (Acquisition Liaison).

2024-04-10 02:02:39

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Here is a community that uses a form of Commons Capitalism:
https://www.ccmss.org.mx/wp-content/uploads/The-community-as-Entrepreneurial-firm.pdf
It's been going strong for over fifty years.
In our case, we can use renewal wealth, i.e., the means of production and net income, as our common pool resources and a board of directors instead of a whole community to run and maintain our CCEs. 5/

2024-04-10 02:01:43

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The benefits of Commons Capitalism are, as follows:
The primary benefit is to distribute profits to workers in the form of premium wages and Nordic-style benefits and spinoff replicate entities. The secondary benefit is to equitably distribute wealth, via worker's wages, throughout the community. The tertiary benefit is to halt the accumulation of the means of production in fewer and fewer individuals. 4/

2024-04-10 02:00:25

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A substantial part of the resources is distributed to employees as premium wages with Nordic-style benefiits. The remainder of the resources are used to purchase other companies and similarly pay the new employees or create replicate CCEs.e one or more for-profit subsidiaries. 3/

2024-04-10 01:59:57

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CC uses Commons Capitalism Entities (CCEs). They are nonprofit corporations that have no shareholders. The CCE would have one or more for-profit subsidiaries. Each CCE holds the means of production and net profits as a "commons," and the commons resources are used by five or more disparate groups. 2/

2024-04-10 01:57:25

2024-04-10 01:51:30

#capitalism #economics #socialism #CommonsCapitalism #CCE
COMMONS CAPITALISM
A primer on how Commons Capitalism (CC) works to replace traditional capitalism, i.e., corporations or other entities owned directly or indirectly by individuals.
CC uses Commons Capitalism Entities (CCEs). They are nonprofit corporations that have no shareholders. The CCE would have one or more for-profit subsidiaries.

2024-04-08 20:17:17

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@npub16pm…yefe
I appreciate your sentiments. But remember corporations are mindless, and it is important to understand the mindset of the individuals who chart the course of a corporation.

2024-04-08 19:49:07

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@npub1z4e…jhuf
Good video. I liked it, especially pointing the dangers advocated by Milton Friedman and the Chicago School.

2024-04-08 17:55:31

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@npub19qm…sn8k
One caveat to that. This was caused by traditional capitalism, not capitalism, per se. In Commons Capitalism, which is another form of capitalism, you don't have any shareholders to satisfy.

2024-04-07 22:07:20

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@npub1vj2…g420
My apologies. I'm just used to giving posters a more direct identification of what ails traditional capitalism.

2024-04-02 12:52:33

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@npub1lkv…cf53
And, no Commons Capitalism doesn't work the way worker coops work. They are totally different creatures.

2024-04-02 11:51:16

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@npub1lkv…cf53
I'm sure there will be lots of people who will call this Marxist and communism. But this is capitalism, the way it was meant to work.

2024-04-02 11:48:55

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@npub1lkv…cf53
We already have forms of socialism. Just look at government handouts.

2024-04-01 21:42:11

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@npub15th…6nvx
I think the better approach is to have corporations with no shareholders and all the net profits are paid in top wages and Nordic-style benefits to workers.

2024-03-25 01:38:51

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@npub126h…e7ft
The problem with traditional capitalism is that it has no ethical guidelines short of criminal law and is hobbled by the craze to gain the highest profits for shareholders.

2024-03-24 09:43:20

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@npub1kpw…xzz4 @npub15th…6nvx @npub126h…e7ft
I understand your reasoning and why you think that way, but I wholeheartedly disagree with most of your conclusions.

2024-03-24 09:36:05

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@npub15th…6nvx @npub1m8k…tqca
Here's the way I think of unions: Think of corporations as a cancer and unions are T-cells fighting that cancer.

2024-03-23 20:14:10

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@npub1aky…4pnw
You're right. There are so many fictions about traditional capitalism that are accepted as truths, they definitely harm society and economic well-being, as one poster mentioned. The idea that the hunt for wealth drives innovation is one of those myths.

2024-03-23 19:49:40

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@npub1aky…4pnw
You've said a lot the needs to be unpacked. You're right; the accumulation of wealth does harm society and, also, but more indirectly harms its economic growth. For some people getting rich from patents may drive their quest for innovation but, from my limited experience with innovators, they have an unscratchable itch that drives them forward, getting the job done at work or solving their immediate problem.

2024-03-23 19:08:54

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@npub1aky…4pnw
But there is a myriad of examples where innovation preceded wealth. The most obvious current example is Nicola Tesla.

2024-03-23 19:03:12

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@npub1aky…4pnw
"Growth or perish" is simply a misguided construct of some pseudo-expert capitalist. First, there is no basis that a company must grow other than growth to a sustainable size to be a going concern. Second, there is no research to establish that a company must grow past that point. Third, it's also based on the false construct that capitalism is the impetus for innovation.

2024-03-22 19:36:20

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@npub14vn…8aaw I might add that coops are traditional corporate entities that have the same ownership problems, such seeking the highest profit. A person going to work for a coop is subject to the same relationship as the employee of a traditional cooperation.

2024-03-22 19:20:40

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@npub14vn…8aaw
Coops are tied to ownership of property and the typical coop is run by small owners as shareholders of the coop. It doesn't help the employees of the shareholder owner of the cooperative.

2024-03-22 18:37:09

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@npub14vn…8aaw
This is nonprofit only in structure. It's strictly in the business of paying salary and benefits for workers. There is oversight by the workers up and down the lines of management, including the directors, who have working positions. The workers are heavily involved with control of management pay and alienation of property.

2024-03-22 18:17:12

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@npub14vn…8aaw
Each nonprofit corporation is run by a board of directors. The nonprofit has no members. The board is not concerned with equality, democracy, or egalitarianism. It's strictly to pay top salaries and Nordic-style benfits to workers, buy up businesses and create new nonprofits that will do the same. It can do that because their are no shareholders. Workers do have some involvement on the board and how management is performed but democracy is not part of it.

2024-03-22 17:46:01

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@npub14vn…8aaw
There isn't anything to look up. It's a new concept that I'm researching. It uses capitalism to achieve what socialism intended to achieve. I know it's a viable solution and can outperform traditional capitalism. The more I research this, the more I wowed by it.

2024-03-22 17:02:59

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@npub14vn…8aaw
Absolutely not. There is no state ownership. The means of production are owned by nonprofit corporations who hold the property in commons to give wages and benefits to workers. There are no shareholders or stakeholders. That's called Commons Capitalism

2024-03-22 10:56:22

I don't call this Labour Capitalism anymore. I call this Commons Capitalism. I realized the important concepts are to spread wealth among the workers, which will in turn spread wealth throughout the community, and stop the accumulation of the means on production. In this way capitalism is employed to achieve much of the societal benefits of socialism. The means of production and net profits are held for the benefit of the workers, not individuals.

2024-03-22 10:39:51

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@npub14vn…8aaw
There's a 5th response. I call it Commons Capitalism. It's capitalism where the means of production and net profits are used for the benefit of workers, not the wealthy, and stops the accumulation of the means of production in the wealthy.

2024-03-09 17:49:21

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@npub136p…tnur
The way to fix capitalism, and it is fixable, is to stop individual ownership of the means of production. Individual ownership causes an incessant drive for higher profits and an accumulation of property. This is not done through state or public ownership of the means of production, nor is it a socialist approach. However, it will be fair an equitable to workers.

2024-03-03 10:09:30

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@npub1ufn…juc4 @npub1hyk…3p33
Hospitals, colleges, and any other public services should never be privatized. You're right, private equity firms would be the worst of the lot in aquiring public service instutions.

2024-01-12 05:22:07

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@npub1v9d…wzw9 @npub1fg3…3qc4
You're right capitalism itself is not the problem it's just that individuals misuse and abuse capitalism for their own ends, i.e., acquiring and accumulating wealth.

2024-01-12 03:30:59

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@npub1ye6…pwej
There is a better way.
Read my posts on Mastodon for #LCE or #LabourCapitalism. At another poster's suggestion, I'm going to put that and more in a Wikipedia page. Yes, there is a better way to perform Capitalism, keep all of the healthy market mechanisms, and restore the "Commons."

2024-01-11 19:00:49

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@npub1hpc…hjn3 @npub19f7…hz40 @npub1d7j…u8xc @npub1k4f…hjgz
I'm not going to argue with you. The the US, the rule of law is very strong and people understand that they substantially need to obey the rule of law.

2024-01-11 18:01:15

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@npub1hpc…hjn3 @npub19f7…hz40 @npub1d7j…u8xc @npub1k4f…hjgz
The handmaiden is police action (Sorry about that). In particular courts are set up to determine property rights between individuals. Police action is used to enforce rights. That's pretty much a function unique to the court system.

2024-01-11 16:03:38

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@npub1hpc…hjn3 @npub19f7…hz40 @npub1d7j…u8xc @npub1k4f…hjgz
Laws and their handmaiden can be beneficial to a society. Their use by companies like Mondragon or places like the Rojava are vital to their existence.

2023-12-30 10:02:58

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@npub1q48…ulnd
Traditional capitalism is a cancer and labor unions are killer T-cells that combat it.

2023-12-30 09:46:43

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@npub19rr…vce6
That's true. Capitalism has no code of ethics. Moreover, if there were such a code, there is no mechanism to enforce it. The only existing mechanisms to enforce "business ethics" are the state and federal regulatory and criminal codes. Even then, businesses flaunt those statutes and regulations.

2023-12-20 20:11:58

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@npub1qf6…nnte
No. They just don't want to pay taxes. If anything, they don't want to spend money on Black people or POC.

2023-12-18 15:56:38

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@npub1t3a…u082
I agree with you. Traditional capitalism is not neutral, non-political or benign. Traditional capitalism as executed in the US is designed to consume all resources using whatever means necessary, sonetimes including criminal acts.
#LCE #LabourCapitalism
#Socialism #Economics
#Capitalism

2023-12-17 20:17:57

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@npub1t3a…u082
The overarching MANDATE of traditional #capitalism is to make the most profit possible whether through economic measures or by reducing or eliminating regulation, including taxes. If employees don't increase profits, they risk termination or being sued. There is NO code of business ethics short of state and federal criminal codes.
#LCE #LabourCapitalism
#Socialism #Economics
#Capitalism

2023-12-17 05:33:27

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@npub16kg…hh7t
I like the idea, too. But, if you analyse capitalism and the socialist approaches to replace capitalism, you realize one central requirement, in particular, for a large country is an efficient market economy. So capitalism is required. The further you examine capitalism, you will realize the problem is not capitalism, per se, but individual ownership of IPP which drives profits and property accumulation.

2023-12-17 05:17:50

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@npub16kg…hh7t
It's imperative that we regulate common resources. Go read Elinor Ostrum's "Governing The Commons." If access to common resources is unregulated and traditional capitalism is applied, then the resource will be depleted or destroyed. Traditional capitalism can be applied no other way.
#LCE #LabourCapitalism
#Socialism #Economics
#Capitalism

2023-12-15 23:05:24

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@npub100t…6cuy @npub1xdd…e9jk
Labour Capitalism is a peaceful way to reduce and eliminate traditional capitalism. Under Labour Capitalism you would still have coops and sole proprietorships.

2023-12-10 04:39:16

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@npub1t00…8lrn
I started researching this about a year ago and have had several Euraka! moments. The more I look at this, more I realize that the problem of capitalism is not capitalism itself but the ownership of income producing properties which ostensibly started with William The Conqueror.

2023-12-10 03:54:52

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@npub1t00…8lrn
Functionally, an LCE is similar to how a "commons" serves a disparate number of people. It serves the all its workers, the companies that are its wholly owned subsidiaries, and creates new CLEs to replicate what the CLE does, i.e., pay workers well and create new LCEs.
And, it's all viable.

2023-12-10 03:53:06

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@npub1t00…8lrn
I don't have a link, sorry.
Here are some attached comments about LCEs. Remember, the hardest thing to do is conceptualize what an LCE is. Most people think it's some form of worker's coop. It's nothing of the sort. They think that only because they think in terms of tradition capitalism, i.e., individuals MUST own ithe income producing properties and the net profit. In the case of the LCE, the LCE owns the property and receives the net profit.

2023-12-10 03:41:25

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@npub1t00…8lrn
No, traditional capitalism is. Labour Capitalism remedies the problems created by traditional capitalism.
#LCE #LabourCapitalism
#Socialism #Economics
#Capitalism

2023-12-09 02:22:15

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@npub1cps…6u2j
OK, if you say so.

2023-12-09 02:18:50

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@npub1cps…6u2j
Nobody's making any excuses. I'm just telling you factually and legally what occurs.

2023-12-09 02:15:56

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@npub1cps…6u2j
The suit would probably be for negligence or breach of fiduciary duty.