Developer, entrepreneur, farmer, jack of all trades. For a freer society with truly free individuals working voluntarily. Interested in: - #freespeech - #libertarian - #voluntaryism - #nonagressionprinciple #europe The medium is the message. Long live #nostr.
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Last Notes npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Oh wow, I just found you! I'm also very crazy about this and am working on bringing it to Spain/Portugal. Would love to connect with you :), sent you a PM by the way. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Bitcoin and Nostr are the ultimate tools against tyranny. Thank you for creating them and thank you for being here. Hope we can build a better world together. :) #bitcoin #nostr #freedom #libertarian npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Hi #privacy enthusiasts, It seems like the EU is more and more undemocratically (no referendums EU, you are not representing the people's will...) clamping down on privacy with the ChatControl measure: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ My question is what do you recommend as an alternative? 1. XMPP 2. Element/Matrix 3. Signal 4. Threema 5. Jami 6. Anything else? I'm a bit out of the loop and was wondering what do you recommend? Thanks! #nostr #bitcoin #monero #privacy #eu #chatcontrol npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Yes! I think it's related to the Economic Complexity perspective, in other words, the idea (or phenomena really) that it is complexity as in different industries, ideas, skills, philosophies working in synergy create a more resilient and better economy. https://oec.world/en/rankings/eci/hs6/hs96?tab=ranking This is also found in nature as seen for example in the work of Ernst Gotsch Syntropic Agriculture. Basically the more biodiversity and density of plants, trees, etc, the more productive that area is. It's fascinating. So yes, idea complexity is what perhaps will work. So in other words Bitcoin, Monero, entrepreneurship, AI, Web3, transparency, tokenization, electronics, technology, etc, etc, the people with a more well-rounded approach will probably create more complex/resilient economies. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon The issue with fiat is that it centralized capital drastically. By controlling the money flow, states have managed to create silos, that either work well or very bad, depending on the competence of their leaders (and everything else). Bitcoin will create more opportunities for individuals to create their own economies/communities/ecosystems around the world. This was already possible with digital payment systems but Bitcoin/Monero will take it to another level. #nostr #bitcoin #monero #entrepreneurship npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Thank you! :) Yeah, I really like Classic Liberalism and Swiss Democracy. I believe these philosophies are very basic definition of the West. But of course understand where everybody else is coming from. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Yeah, I have a website at https://thedemocracyupgrade.org that explains the most important from a libertarian perspective. I think it’s the most voluntaryist system in the world. And like you said it’s the freest country in the world. My argument is that it’s the referendum system. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Swiss democracy. It’s the best way to define common ownership, in my opinion :) npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Transparency and ownership share will (or is) changing everything. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon It's a bit weird yeah... But yeah there's a lot of interesting subs still. Great content on Reddit. Wish they moved to Nostr though... npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Is the sub-reddit r/Europe an echo chamber or does it really represent more or less the average European? It's just strange, everybody seems to think the same way, have the same opinions. Is this normal? Does Reddit really reflect the average European? #nostr #europe npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Wait, so it works for you @npub1s88…2kes? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon I've given up on it :D Are you working on something similar? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon The Euro took the only advantage these countries had basically... Center Europe has all the industrial competitiveness, the south can't compete. Now they compete on sun and vacations. But there's sun and vacations everywhere, who wins there? New models are appearing though. Opportunities are created because of this too. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Yeah exactly. Lighthing Network is a good tool for that right? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Thank you very much kind sir! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Yeah, I then checked your profile. Much strength to you! We're already connected, that's the first step. We have Nostr, Bitcoin, Monero, VPNs, etc, etc. We're in a much better position than we were EVER. It's just a matter of keeping calm and carrying on. Scoop by scoop we can drain the whole ocean. We're going to get there. We just have to keep connected and focused. Good day to you friend :) npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Do you any clients that have implemented NIP-87 or more specifically Encrypted Group chats (as in Telegram) with encrypted messages? I was looking through https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/875 But couldn't find Encrypted group chats in Coracle? Thanks! #nostr #nostrdevs npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon The only democracy in the world is Switzerland. All the other countries are a joke dominated by the political class, parties, etc... We've been living on lies upon lies since forever. The people with power convince everyone of everything by repeating lies. The greatest lie was that you live in a democracy. https://thedemocracyupgrade.org/ #nostr #bitcoin #democracy npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Oh and when we start writing good AI Data Vending Machines (https://www.data-vending-machines.org/) then that will be through the roof. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Your attention is the most fundamental thing you have. The reason why Nostr is fundamental is that it will allow you to define exactly where do you want to spend your attention on. The model is top-down everywhere, where the already established eat everything. This will change with Nostr, with much more flexible, fine-tunable, configurations and models for discovering what you're looking for. We will discover exactly who and what we're looking for AND we will discover to lead, not to follow. The following, follower dynamic will change with Nostr. #nostr #bitcoin npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Ah, this to say that they are not as homogeneous as that. 30% of the country is a foreigner. Pretty huge percentage. That's also why they're voting for less immigration now by the way. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon They speak different languages, French and German, they have different churches, they were killing each other up until 1848. Very important. They were killing each other until 1848, Sonderbund Wars. The system is the reason they stopped killing each other. They are not heading for civil war like all the other "democracies". There's also Islam in the picture (in more or less the same percentage as other Western Europe countries, 7%) and they're also integrated, you don't see the problems you see on other Western Europe countries like the UK, France, for example. Also not trivial at all in my view. The system works. I think the scale is irrelevant. It's more than clear for me the more I study it. The system works and we gotta learn with what works. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon The world is polarized, divided and collapsing because there are no political system in any nation-states (in any but one) that are joining the best of the left and the best of the right, in other words, creating actual solutions that work for EVERYONE from the bottom-up, precisely defined by the PEOPLE with orderly referendums, solutions that promote meritocracy and that actually work for everyone in way or the other, that can be paid, are economical, low debt, long-term, etc... Trump won't do what you want him to do, Kamala even less. Milei will reach a point where he will be wrong. Bukele probably already is getting there. Because they simply don't have the mechanisms. There are no mechanisms for them to represent both the short and long term. How can the people tell Trump what you think is important in short and long term? With protests? Screaming more? Screaming less? There are no mechanisms to serve the people, especially in the long term. How can they precisely know what the people want? What's measuring and defining that? There's nothing measuring that with precision, process and order. We need better leaders (and culture) too sure but most of all we need BETTER systems. And that system until now IS the Swiss model. The Swiss model has been working perfectly since 1848. Switzerland is the richest country in the world per capita. Neutral, peaceful, not even part of Nato. The Swiss model: - People vote on about 16 referendums 3 times per year. All kinds of referendums. Stuff like taxes (they often reject tax raises, taxes are very low in Switzerland), if they should build a new statue at a municipal level, public transit, what can be taught in school, everything, etc, etc. - People's Veto Power: In Switzerland the people can reject ANY law at the federal, cantonal and municipal level. On a federal level they need 50k signatures for that law to go to referendum. Which is nothing compared to the population. The US doesn't have the People Veto Power at the federal level. Switzerland does. If the US had this veto power, there would be no wars for example, because wars would be vetoed by the people. - Federalism: In Switzerland the cantons have independent constitutions with independent courts, education, and police. - Open Lists (Panachage): Voters can choose candidates from any party in elections. - People's Initiatives: Citizens propose laws with 100,000 signatures, leading to a referendum at any level. Meaning anybody can create new laws. - Constitutional Referendums: All constitutional changes require a public referendum. The US has not nothing like this. - Public Recalls: Elected officials can be removed through recall elections. Check out this video if you want to know more about this system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d9xHeY1vBM This is the most voluntaryist and libertarian system created. - Corporate Tax Rates: Switzerland offers highly competitive corporate tax rates as low as 11.9%, making it an attractive location for businesses seeking tax efficiency. - Low Income Tax: Personal income tax can be as low as 10% in cantons like Zug, benefiting individuals with average salaries. - Personal Income Tax: Swiss personal income tax rates range between 22% to 45%, varying by canton. - Value-Added Tax (VAT): Switzerland has one of the lowest VAT rates in Europe at 7.7%, benefiting consumers and businesses. #bitcoin #nostr #politics #democracy #libertarian #voluntaryism npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Is anybody interested in building a DVM (data vending machine) for finding business or co-founders? #datavendingmachine #startups #cofounder #business #entrepreneurship #nostr #bitcoin npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Bitcoin is one of the very few real things in the world. People will see that with time. In 30 years we're going to have a much more real world because of it. Keep calm and carry on. #bitcoin #nostr npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon And also what's your opinion on Lightning Network? It solves some of theses problems right? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Did they take Monero though? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon And also trying to find more liberty-minded, Bitcoin people in general. This is very important for me, to feel less isolated... :D npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon I'm dabbling with AI and social networks in general. Currently my main goal is trying to find more efficient ways of finding the help we need from the people online. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Makes sense. And if you do this at scale there's definitely a market for this. B2B would be the best way to solve this because of effort pyramid. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon In other words, connecting to our data, finding opportunities for us, etc... For example, AI tools for finding business opportunities, finding the right people, etc. I think this a pretty great usage for AI! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon The true AI opportunity is in learning how to use AI properly in your case, i.e making your life more efficient, finding the sweet spot of productivity. And of course in B2B in general. Lots of opportunities there also. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Love it :) What's the meaning of that in more specific terms perhaps? What are you trying to achieve, what problem are you trying to solve? I think this is a good exercise for our entrepreneurial abilities and it's good to get the conversation going, we gotta network :D npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Bitcoin is about a cultural change into a non-fiat world. It's a cultural change, the medium is the message, the fact that you use Bitcoin is the message. It means you are more real and you're more open for business than fiat based people. It means I can talk to you, propose you ideas, and know that you'll look at them with your rational mind and not your ideological/oversocialized persona. You'll be more gradual, more nuanced, because you have more time to think, you're looking at it with a time frame of decades. A little bit here today might be a lot in 40 years. Fiat people are solely worried if their party/ideology/overall group will keep getting elected in order to keep the printing/system going. By the way, oversocialization means being "assimilated too far into society". Check out if you want to look at an entrepreneurs network. Why not build Bitcoin-focused tokenized/collaborative/open businesses? i.e be more open with business, etc #naddr1qv…nkea #bitcoin #nostr #entrepreneurship npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Hey entrepreneurs, How are you doing? What are you trying to solve? What kind of help would you need? #entrepreneur #bitcoin #startups #nostr npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Awesome, done: https://www.nostrchat.io/channel/a2fd84eacf2bd74f55d7fc81ddd4d6c98ef87cbe6f0fa3e635ce02742bbdff38 Is it working? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Hola! Encantadostr :) npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Sorry for the delay! Yeah, there's a Telegram channel if you're interested: https://t.me/+5JG9cIkYEI5hODE0 I'll also create a Nostr chat, that's a good idea. The only thing is that the messages there are permanent and searchable too :D not sure if it's everyone's cup of tea. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon So cool, thank you heaps. Yes, and the idea of the podcast is a great idea and I'm gonna bother you when I'm ready. Thanks again, great stuff! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon That's such an awesome project and story. Congratulations for your amazing project! Great job. I'm going to bookmark it :) The FreeVillages project is just a community (Telegram chat) for now, a place for liberty-minded people that are looking for a place to move or invest in. A podcast would be a great idea in the future! But also honestly there's still some things I would like to define before being more comfortable talking about this to be 100% honest, if that makes sense. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Awesome, best of luck with that. How did you find it? Was it through connections, or did you just set to search yourselves and found a place? I'm always curious as to how people find these opportunities. I've been trying to do something in this area, maybe a migration service or something of the sort. Have already created a community for people looking entrepreneurial-friendly affordable villages: https://freevillages.org/ That's the vision, entrepreneurial villages, bringing life, liberty, Nostr, Bitcoin, permaculture, syntropic agriculture (plenty of trees), to small pockets around the world. :D There are so many depopulating places in the world, why not get together and do something? Either remotely or locally, or a combination of those. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Both, I would say. The European Union, how do you feel about it? Yay or nay? :D npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Europeans, how are you doing? Are you hopeful or not so much with your life in Europe? Do you consider leaving Europe? What would make you leave Europe? #europe #nostr #bitcoin npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Great song by the way. :) Thanks for showing me a Led Zeppeling I didn't know! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon It's incredible, Led Zeppelin in the middle of heavy rockers and proto-metal drills had these summer jam songs. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Reddit sucks. If only we could get the people see that and come to Nostr, that would be incredible. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon You're going to get so much electricity that you're going to say stop it, we don't need more electricity. #bitcoin #nostr #trump npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Excelente respuesta :) Y gracias por los sats! Tengo que montar mi Nodo LN por que Alby no me funciona bien... npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Sería una buena sesión en realidad. Podríamos montar algo para más gente que quisiera aprender, seria interesante! que te parece? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Hola! Genial, bienvenido :) Sí, yo también tenia o tengo Alby pero no me funciona a 100%, tengo que encontrar alternativa. Me gustaria de aprender a montar un Node LN pero me parece algo que va a tardar dias :D npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Hola! Bienvenido! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Absolutely. Let the people decide what is real or fake. Absolute free speech. It's truly revolutionary. Thanks to everyone involved in this and especially @npub180c…h6w6 for creating the first idea for the protocol! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Very cool project! I think I'm going to upload my music to this project. I'll read more about it. Thanks very much for it :) npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Never heard of it. What is it really? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Taxes are especially imoral if you can't have any control over them. In Switzerland they've solved that to a degree with referendums every 3 months at all levels (People's Veto, etc). That's already some definition and we could go even further with the Blockchain providing a very detailed perspective on what we'd like to do build or not. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Hey everyone, Is there something like this a Nostr relay of relays? In other words, any P2P Nostr project? #asknostr #nostr npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon When in doubt, believe there is something beautiful. Because if you really do, then it might become real, one day. Whatever it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVWKgzU-Zf0 npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Yes, absolutely, both. Nobody wants to be stolen from, in the end. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon I increasingly believe that true wealth lies solely in sovereignty. To what extent are you sovereign? How much control do you genuinely wield within your local, regional, and national governments? #bitcoin #asknostr #libertarian npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Trust in truth. Truth always gets farther than lies. #bitcoin #nostr npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Right on. And it's just generally much more efficient for everything in general. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Is there already an uncensorable relay indexer/list? An uncensorable relay of relays? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Phenomenal! thanks! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Hello #nostr, Anybody interested in joining a group or movement to get people from Reddit to join Nostr? I'm so tired of all the Reddit mini-dictators... That model is dead, it will never work for the community. We need better tools. #asknostr #reddit #exreddit npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Yes, I agree with that statement. It currently helps me or in other words, I try to think about things in the order described in the post. Free speech, non-agression, voluntaryism. That's the gist of my philosophy. And thus I of course understand and absolutely sympathise with how some people think ideas are mixed up in the end. For example, some libertarians are libertarians because they are Christian and thus they believe in the individuality of man as a right that comes from God. Natural rights. And that's fine too. Why wouldn't it be? If we reach the same conclusions and act in the same way, is there really a difference, in a libertarian context? A part of me also thinks it's all mixed up in the end. I mean, what do I really know about anything? In other words, people came to the same conclusions from different places. And that's perfectly fine in my view 😉 I know this is a very sensitive topic that nobody wants to touch. It's for the brave of heart only. But it also doesn't have to be. In case of confusion, I would say being kind and compassionate to each other always works because that's never a bad thing. 😃 AND of course we should also buy more Bitcoin. Always. 😉 Thanks for the response by the way! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Hey everyone, Are there any libertarians here? Or what would be your philosophy/political view of the world? Any philosophies, ideas, principles that you think are important? And for specifity when I mean libertarianism I mean principles like: - Free Speech - Non-agression Principle (NAP) - Voluntary interactions between individuals (Voluntaryism) - Self-sufficiency, self-sovereignty (Bottom-up & Autonomy) People like: John Locke, Auberon Herbert, Rothbard, Mises, Hayek, David D. Friedman, etc, etc... These ideas are important to me. It's the basis of my philosophy. And then there's also the moral/"spiritual" philosophy that I get from a combination Buddhism, Christianity and other stuff. For example, the 5 Buddhist Precepts are a simple and important moral code for me. Are ideas important to you? If not, how do you see life and the world? I'm just wondering because see there's a lot of love for #bitcoin and I wonder what each individual's philosophy (philosophy or politics) behind that. How people really think, if there are principles behind behaviours, etc... I'm at a point where I believe that human beings need to have an organized hierarchy of principles, otherwise we will fall for other people's principles. And we all know the problem is other people's principles might be not be good at all for us and the people around us. This is the reason why this topic interests me. Also feel free to join the Libertarian community at: #naddr1qv…mylj #libertarian #bitcoin #nostr #asknostr Thanks! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Exactly. Twitter is now much freer but still the fact that it's closed source and not flexible will make it die in the end. For example my Twitter feed is full violence and I would like to have more control on what I see. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Thanks a lot! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Hey everyone, a quick question: What's the easiest way to create lists in Nostr? I'm looking to create user lists and follow feeds using Nostrudel but haven't found success. Any suggestions, any other clients, guides that I could take a look at? Cheers and thanks 😉 #asknostr #nostr npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Ah, cool. I'm not from Venezuela but I often read about life there, also know some people from there. It would be cool to have a stronger network with you guys though. I don't think there's for example a Venezuela community on Nostr right? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Best of luck friend :) interesting channel! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon The thing is, in Venezuela and other similar places around the world (what's usually called the 3rd world), it's even more dystopian. In Venezuela, you're working remotely for a "gringo" as a virtual assistant helping him run is Spiderman doll business in the US/EU, trying to make sure that he doesn't understand that your electricity fails every 3h, all while paying the police guy next door $10 per month (from the gringo's money) to stay away from your business/life so that you can feed your 3 unemployed family members. You can't do many physical/real-world things and businesses like farming because the police/criminals will take it from you. And in my view this is definitely an upgrade from an even more broken past. There's more possibilities, more information, more exchange. The internet and technology is making everything better. We just have to keep calm and carry on. My point is we can see dystopia and simultaneously we can also see the opportunities everywhere. The most important is that we stick together and carry on :) npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Yeah, with Primal you can mute it in Settings. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon I'm so incredible excited by all this tech. Reading about this new tech and some posts on Nostr made me realize what the future of social media is, at least for me. The future of social media for me is completely bottom up, privacy-based, ownership-defined and highly configurable. Every single person in the world will be able to completely fine tune exactly what they want to see from their client and their content will always be available as there will be no top-down censorship anymore. Everything will be bottom-up, client-side. And that's just beautiful and mindblowing. Because that will change everything. I believe a lot of incredible smart people don't participate in social media because of some of the factors above, i.e not having ownership, the censorship aspect, not being able to find what they want (discoverability, flexibility, filtering), overall feeling like they don't have the incentives to truly participate in the medium, especially in the longer term. I believe the medium is the message. And the future medium is going to be incredible. There will be something for everyone and we will ALL benefit from it. It's going to be truly inclusive and revolutionary. I'm an optimist for the future 😉 Thank you great people for your work in this!! #nostr #grownostr #nostrdevs npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon And thank you very much for your work on Nostr of course 😄 npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Thank you for the answer by the way. Your working in algorithmic moderation is going to change the world. Thank you very much for it 👍 😉 npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Thank you very much for the response 👍 Interesting. I guess what I'm looking for is a true P2P functionality or side to Nostr. That would be the true end to censorship. Because from what I understand it seems like the current system is still censorable. Albeit on a smaller scale. But the possibility is still there I think? I've been thinking about the idea of having a kind of NIP that implemented a P2P system, something simple, either based on Secure ScuttleButt, Aether, or just something new but simple, where clients (computers, smartphones) host at least a specific part of the content, configurable on the client itself. So probably they would host own posts first and maybe some other configurable content. And if it was implemented at a NIP level people could use their same clients (Nos.social) and it would just work. Relays with P2P functionality would just operate the same sort of trustless server system to route messages between clients. This would offer a completely uncensorable system as long as clients are connected. But maybe this already exists and I'm missing something? Cheers! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon I was checking Secure ScuttleButt and I was thinking, technically speaking this P2P model can be implemented in Nostr right? #asknostr #nostr npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Is it technically feasible to have a network of millions of private #nostr relays? I'm imagining a world where millions of people will have private nostr relays serving their own content only. That's pretty technically easy to achieve, right? #asknostr #nostrdevs #developers npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Thanks for the recommendation! Looks good 😉 npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Hi #nostr, quick question, which Nostr clients do you think are better (or more effectively) implementing Nostr Communities functionalities, currently? I'm really looking forward for Nostr to become the Reddit replacement so that's why I'm asking. :) Cheers and good day! #asknostr npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Please do 😄 Long live Nostr! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon You can't ask these questions... 😉 In pratice this is an early version of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses Also known as the "dole": > Why is it called the dole? > In British English, unemployment benefits are also colloquially referred to as "the dole"; receiving benefits is informally called "being on the dole". "Dole" here is an archaic expression meaning "one's allotted portion", from the synonymous Old English word dāl. The current (last thousands of years) status quo of government is to divide and conquer. They are dividing the people, making them more friends/dependent of the government. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon As long there's free speech that's fine. Problem is when the intolerant destroy free speech and the tolerant let them do it... npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Yeah, that would be useful for the many sides/clients of Nostr. I also think adoption is inevitable. I’m my case the use case that I’m very very excited is a replacement to Reddit and LinkedIn. I can’t wait for the end of Reddit moderation. And a cheaper LinkedIn. I think Reddit like clients are still too infant but when they really start to improve, it’s going to be huge. And then it’s just a matter of cross posting. Once you have a few cross posters, people that post in both, then it’s a matter of time. Imagine having the content of Reddit and the flexibility of Nostr. Different ways to access content. Open AI analysis. Sky is the limit. Another use case I’m very excited about is a LinkedIn alternative. And the real beauty is going to be mixing both. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon So bootstrapping all the way, is that it? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon A question for #bitcoin and overall #crypto entrepreneurs: With the advent of crypto currencies and #defi my question is, has that changed the way you would finance your business? Imagine a person is starting a business today, would you recommend any #defi (or #tradfi) crowdfunding tool for acquiring money or would you recommend a fully bootstrapped implementation? #startups #entrepreneurship #defi npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Hi @npub1get…0nfm, is everything alright with your docs pages? https://guides.getalby.com/user-guide/alby-browser-extension/faqs/can-i-use-alby-with-the-tor-browser It seems there's a lot 404 Not Founds in your docs? Cheers! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon But what's the problem? What's the disadvantage? I don't get it. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon That's very cool though. I have a server too and it could work. I just wonder privacy wise it could perhaps not be ideal... not sure. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon What options do you recommend for that? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Why? Curious :) npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Good stuff! A question, in a world with millions of relays, how will clients work with that? Is there some kind of global relay database? Because currently adding relays to clients its pretty manual. And by the way, I honestly don't understand why clients are not using all the possible available relays by default. Wouldn't using all the possible avaible relays by default result in the most complete or uncensored version of all Nostr content? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Ostrich.work looks good too! Anything works in the end. I was thinking though, it would probably need a specific client that uses a specific relay with safe-for-work moderation. Who would want to mix work stuff with the rest of the world? Well, I guess someone will want that in the end. I wonder if we're gonna have many multiple clients like we have now or a few clients with a LOT of functionality for everyone. npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Phenomenal answer, thank you very much!! Are you hosting all the Nostr content in your relay? How much GB in size is all the Nostr content currently? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Very cool! How are you defining identity? i.e making sure that one user can only vote once? npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon I see, thanks a lot! npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon How large is the whole #nostr database in GB? Is there a place where I can see this information? #asknostr npub1v2n2g830p7pzgkrzzk7wyxudfvw87svxyt3dgahrj7xa4vf2edpsscetnt CitizenHorizon Yeah exactly. Basically the BAT model of Brave. Yeah that's a great idea! The good thing is that there are several alternatives. It's complex but it actually might work. I honestly also wouldn't mind paying for a premium relay that was free speech friendly.