Drat! I saw an interesting reply from fiatjaf (npub180c…h6w6) to this note. Where did it go? I agree with his main point that the vast majority of people don't want to run a server. I start from the same premise, without always on and always reachable servers that ordinary people don't have to think about this will never work.
But that doesn't preclude a messy 0 configuration network of clients that act solely on behalf of the user. For instance if I add my npub to a client on both my phone and my laptop they can attempt to find each other on the local network, attempt a hole-punch with a public relay, or use a relay as a TURN server. This in order to share resources for checking hashes or caching data.
If my router had a relay my devices could always fallback to using it for the above discovery. Of course not every home router will be easily addressable, but enough should be that we can use them to find out contacts even if governments go after large relays.
Daniel Wigton
npub1w4j…30zp
2024-06-02 21:16:05
in reply to nevent1q…w2h8
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2024-06-02 21:16:05Event JSON
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