📅 Original date posted:2019-11-07
📝 Original message:
> Imagine the following setup: a network of nodes that trust each other
The goal of this pre-payment proposal is to remove the need for trusted
parties.
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 07:38 Joost Jager <joost.jager at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Isn't spam something that can also be addressed by using rate limits for
>> > failures? If all relevant nodes on the network employ rate limits, they
>> can
>> > isolate the spammer and diminish their disruptive abilities.
>>
>> Sure, once the spammer has jammed up the network, he'll be stopped. So
>> will everyone else. Conner had a proposal like this which didn't work,
>> IIRC.
>>
>
> Do you have ref to this proposal?
>
> Imagine the following setup: a network of nodes that trust each other (as
> far as spam is concerned) applies a 100 htlc/sec rate limit to the channels
> between themselves. Channels to untrusted nodes get a rate of only 1
> htlc/sec. Assuming the spammer isn't a trusted node, they can only spam at
> 1 htlc/s and won't jam up the network?
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