Instant Email Messaging - the largest decentralized messenger. Chat over e-mail and head back to the future with us!
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2024-02-22T13:16:52+01:00 Event JSON
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Last Notes npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1upj…2c6m any particular error message from the nine server? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat The #EUGoingDark 42-point plan for after the election has it all: breaking e2e encryption, "lawful" data retention, prohibiting encrypting metadata, threatening jail to developers for non compliance ..... If we thought political currents are moving against privacy then this is a new severity worthy of the worst authoritarian states dreams ... https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/first-insight-42-key-points-of-the-secret-eugoingdark-surveillance-plan-for-the-new-eu-commission/ npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub14ys…0us0 sure, also there is a second post under the top. Massive multi-device ftw! :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1ke7…7n5r ah, ein Problem - cmdeploy, das script mit dem chatmail deployed wird, ist davon abhängig dass auf dem server apt installiert ist. also zumindest der Server muss auf Debian oder Ubuntu laufen. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Upsie! We forgot to mention what is also new with the rolling android 1.46 release: android also got "arbitrary" reactions now . In some real family chats this is more appreciated than all the other news :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub16q3…3ajw yes but "aeap" is not often used in practise yet ( https://delta.chat/en/2022-09-14-aeap ) and has some limitations. We have plans to take up aeap and move it to he next level but they are not immediate plans. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat It's a crazy property of #chatmail that it practically has zero state: if a Chatmail server is raided, burns to the ground etc but you still have DNS control, you just set it up somewhere and people can continue chatting. In that sense it's really like a router .... You can turn it off, wipe discs, reinstall and turn it on. Theoretically someone might take your address if they arrive first with their login but they would not get readable message content so it would be more annoying than unsafe npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Delta Chat had "use but minimize" in its DNA when engaging with specs and standards. Autocrypt and #securejoin for guaranteed e2ee, #Chatmail servers with secure chat focus, #webxdc apps with html/css focus .... are the strategic examples of engaging with real internet standards but carefully curating the subset to go for .... Almost all standards are way too complex and unfitting for real world issues ... Our approach is neccessarily pragmatic because we lack resources to be idealism driven npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1ya0…fpqv we are bound to look into that soon. Do you have experience with it yourself? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1zzd…xfv6 iOS push notifications for Chatmail servers were already there with the1.44 release. The new 1.46 release introduces push notifications for Android gplay. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat A major milestone in our 6+ years long project history: With the rolling 1.46 #deltachat app releases you can start chatting without a pre-existing e-mail address, and benefit from push notifications (instant message delivery) also on Android. We also highlight ways to get in contact with bots and humans, and how #chatmail makes e-mail cheap again https://delta.chat/en/2024-05-31-instant-onboarding npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub12ac…3xqe thanks for clarification and all your work! Netzpolitik writes that encrypted communications might be excluded from chatcontrol in their reporting about it, but only in a side sentence. What is your interpretation? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat WhatsApp introduces "ask meta ai" in the local chat search bar, and Slack auto-feeds messages to train their LLM robots https://eigenmagic.net/@NewtonMark/112455578857917485 ... Delta Chat is among the shrinking number of messaging applications that does not look at your data except to end-to-end encrypt it and send it over interoperable message transport servers chosen by yourselves and your contacts. #decentralization #security #privacy ftw! npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Often overlooked from our "but e-mail!" skeptics: Any sufficiently advanced P2P messenger will eventually re-invent a custom, partial form of e-mail ... because users want to communicate when their apps are offline or not foregrounded and active at the same time. See https://briarproject.org/download-briar-mailbox/ for a recent example. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1u2x…r44u yes. It's in the advanced settings. If it doesn't work, you can find some advice here: https://delta.chat/en/help#i-cant-import-my-existing-pgp-key-into-delta-chat npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1u2x…r44u usually yes -- in advanced settings there is a way. see also https://delta.chat/en/help#can-i-reuse-my-existing-private-key npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1klv…w84p great, thanks. Note that deltachat-core-rust is not needed for running a chatmail server. It's only used for testing the chatmail server ops. Are you aware of that? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Delta chat may be criticized for not being the most secure messenger in some sense or not the most feature rich. When it comes to interoperability, however, our efforts and collaborations are the biggest game in town, no? The two biggest sets of internet standards revolve and operate at massive scale around E-Mail and the Web. Our approach fully engages and takes up these extremely impactful sets of standards, and reliably wires them into a modern UI #deltachat #webxdc #chatmail npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1f7f…qyv8 that's a very generic question. Some of us tried jami a bit but it probably has progressed since then. Maybe someone else needs to chime in who knows jami and delta chat and has used both for a while recently. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Did you know that Delta Chat is the only mature, cross-platform secure messaging app that does not use or need a key server? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Delta Chat is an in-between project: often ignored as a messenger by e-mail companies/experts and then ignored by messenger companies/experts because of its use and interoperability with e-mail. As Heinz von Foerster once said: "If you are doing something genuinely new then don't ask the experts. If you do something that has already been done, then, by all means, ask the experts." FWIW many experts have verified Delta Chat's security mechanics https://delta.chat/en/help#security-audits :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Seems the french surveillance practises (Hadopi) identifying people behind IP addresses have been legalized by a top EU court. Fwiw #chatmail servers remove any IP address traces after two days and collect no personal data whatsoever. Maybe it's time for a french themed chatmail server similar to the de,pl,us ones? https://delta.chat/en/chatmail npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1v3q…z62w if you want to consider using delta chat and chatmail for student onboarding purposes let us know if you need advise. For more info see our pinned messages. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Apart from the default #chatmail server advertised at https://get.delta.chat there are at least three other stable open-signup servers whose operators cooperate to ensure stability, see the new pages covering background such as funding, trust etc https://delta.chat/en/chatmail npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Phew, that was a damn short window of dysfunction .... It works.already again. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat https://delta.chat is down .... oh no!!!!!.... npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Within #deltachat teams and with many collaborating experts and projects around us, we somewhat stubbornly cling to "working code wins" .... But don't forget it's powerful sibling: "maintenable code wins", especially in the longer term. Our automated testing culture, our use of #rustlang at the heart of things and our usability-first focus all help maintenanbility. We don't have the treachery luxury of vc-funding which means we must be a hundred times more economical in our approaches. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1upj…2c6m it listens on stdin/stdout. See for example https://py.delta.chat/jsonrpc/intro.html for accessing/using it... You may also use some tooling on top to relay that to IP/ports network communication. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Messaging transports better be dumb and do the bare minimum to get the job done for end-to-end encrypting apps .... Compared to #matrix homeservers #chatmail servers are two orders of magnitude more dumb, consume two orders of magnitude less resources and are blazing fast and don't require extra (central?!) identity and integration servers. With delta all intelligence, including general purpose https://webxdc.org/apps , lives on the end devices, including security against compromised networks. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1ugu…qaau yes: https://delta.chat/en/help#howtoe2ee npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat "but e-mail !1!!!" Is probably still a number one objection from experts and power users who refuse to fathom that e-mail protocols are a viable option for instant messaging even if it demonstrably works, is fast and secure :) We'd be happy if someone engaged in a proper comparison with xmpp and matrix specs and impls, really the only three messenging protocols deployed and implemented at scale. (Can't compare that with Signal or WhatsApp which don't have wire specs!). https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core-rust/blob/main/standards.md npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat #cryptography news: rpgp, the pure Rust #OpenPGP encryption engine used in all #deltachat apps, got quite some love lately, including a revamp of the main entry point for developers: https://github.com/rpgp/rpgp . You may regard rpgp as an extension of the #rustcrypto effort where a lot of the base code lives and is co-maintained by the wonderful diginifiedquire who also just landed a long awaited sha1-colission detector -- as one of the few people officially allowed to write crypto code :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1ya0…fpqv yes, or even just all messages but no attachments -- even 5-year old accounts with thousands of chats only have like 200-400 MBs size ... 90% or more of the backup file is attachements (photo audio etc.) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat How many people do you know that have lost their messaging history on Whatsapp or Signal, photos etc during mobile phone transitions or breakage or through other shenenigans? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat The last 1.44 release round did not only contain a lot of UI/UX milestones but also 20 security fixes based on a deep analysis from Yuanming Song and colleagues of the Applied Cryptography group at ETH Zuerich https://delta.chat/en/2024-03-25-crypto-analysis-securejoin npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1zzd…xfv6 no official list but https://nine.testrun.org, https://mailchat.pl, https://mehl.cloud and https://bcc.chat are ones whose operators are independent and collaborate in a chat with each other, and are generally fine with people onboarding there, and can reasonably be expected to operate for a longer time. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1w07…a70l @npub1rut…xsk5 @npub1z2j…r69f @npub10qx…8d05 Yes you can, our desktop client is react + typescript for example. There are two libraries to use our rust core: npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub13qc…kr6p because we do not currently see much point in putting a particular restriction on the usage of the chatmail collection of recipes and modules -- what disadvantages do you see? What would be the attacker/exploiter of the MIT license here? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub13qc…kr6p we do not have any intention of apropriating our experiments and, frankly, usually do not discuss licenses very much. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat The default setup of #chatmail is for open signups (anyone can get an address) but some operators implement a private signup protocol and that's fine and easy enough to do because https://github.com/deltachat/chatmail/ is a small machine. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub18um…kqrh great to hear that our "it just works" design goal for all #chatmail instances becomes reality :) .... There is still a bit of things to do to make it even nicer but it's a major step forward already for iOS user experience. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub14ue…62vv could you file on https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-desktop/issues with screenshot ? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1z8p…mn5l Not unthinkable and in fact the topic of a developer discussion this morning :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat #deltachat just got four major usability improvements as the 1.44 releases are rolling out npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1yp7…3vn4 @npub1dwh…8j9k this has just improved -- the ios version from yesterday (1.44) from the apple app store provides instant push notifications if you are using a #chatmail account (e.g. https://nine.testrun.org) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1s89…f0yf @npub1dwh…8j9k please take a look at #chatmail and thus intro Blogpost about a interoperable and secure chatmail hosting which is available already for anyone (there are also a few self hosted instances already) https://delta.chat/en/2023-12-13-chatmail npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1upj…2c6m yes, it's for writing bots in different languages without having to deal with "C" style bindings, see https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core-rust/tree/main/deltachat-rpc-server for an entry point to discover more. JsonRPC is already the basis for the desktop app so it's quite possible to write a new 3rd party app using JsonRPC, so all networking/encryption/contact/chat-management is solved and only the UI part is to be written. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat New from the machine room: our pure #Rust core library underlying all #deltachat apps now has reproducible builds for "deltachat-rpc-server", used by bots and soon also the Desktop app npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1r6h…khyt not sure it needs a market to make meaningful relations to users .... But indeed, finding a sustainable funding basis is a challenge and that can be framed as a market question .... As far as we see almost no messenger, maybe except @npub1ue3…kryc has a sustainable funding basis and is mostly cross financed, to maximize their user share and then figure out monetizing. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1luj…gsfx 1. the emails will only get deleted on the server, not in delta chat - so a password sent via email would stay in the app. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1g3e…nfxp yes, here crypto means cryptography like it used to :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Given the experiences of the last decade it's healthy to distrust #decentralized tech if npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat In whichever area of #deltachat related developments you look, you will find different people and communities -- even if there are several individuals who appear in multiple contexts as key contributors or drivers. There is no single person who gets to decide about everything even if we do have lead roles for particular aspects. Our experimental community approaches respect Convays Law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law -- meaning: our #decentralization tech will be only as good as our social practises npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1d8y…g8p7 @npub1zgy…ekqk it was spam, pretty sure, and we reported it. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1k08…6xvn @npub1k0y…zpfz we are also getting a lot of spam, maybe worthwhile to block these three instances ? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1htm…5ul7 @npub1gj9…wshu there currently is a PR under discussion which would remove webxdc sending limits fyi https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core-rust/pull/5268 npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1sly…t8j7 @npub179s…epju we understand your sentiments against e-mail as you are hardly alone to have fundamental doubts about it ... however, we'd be curious what you think of our december #chatmail https://delta.chat/en/2023-12-13-chatmail post -- it's true that this requires Delta Chat on both sides but the same is true for Signal or Matrix. Contrary to Matrix, #chatmail servers are very dumb and fast and that is by design because intelligence should be in the end-points #e2ee npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Reclaiming Peer-to-Peer Web technology with #webxdc out of the ashes of "Web3": our 2024 opening post on the topic :) https://delta.chat/en/2024-02-15-webxdc-m3 npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub12ac…3xqe I doubt there will be end to end encryption .... This would naturally mean that messenger clients implement interoperable end-to-end encryption with WhatsApp clients .... For example, which matrix client will support WhatsApp encryption in the coming months? Do you have a link? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Was an eventful and enjoyable #offdem24 and #fossdem24 .... Ranging from intermingling with people operating security-sensitiv helplines using #chatmail to discussing email standards like the evolving openpgp cryptorefresh ... And then several more underground happenings which might lead to even more surprises than are already developing .... and then many of us agreed and appreciate that we are rather engaged with lots interesting communities and folks rather than corporate customers ;) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1zc6…fshk para activar la funcionalidad de videollamadas, ve a los ajustes avanzados, busca "instancia de videollamada" y pon algo como: npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1zc6…fshk de hecho si tiene soporte para stickers, selector de stickers en la versión de escritorio y de momento en las versiones móviles debes usar los stickers del teclado o usar una app como EweSticker, en cuanto a videollamadas, tiene integración con Jitsi Meet y similares para invitar a video llamadas desde #DeltaChat aunque no es tan amigable como video llamadas nativas incluidas en la app como en otras alternativas npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat When you are interacting with this account here you are actually interacting with a bunch of folks nvolved in various ways in project happenings, who are often following interactions via a deltachat mastodon bot that relays messages into a chat group from where the reply is triggered. Many of the @npub1zgy…ekqk members have an "offline first" approach to networking so mostly use the chat group to interact. #didyouknowdepartment npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1amd…qlf5 @npub1wpl…7d2c @npub1rml…xa6t lol npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1ffc…0vc4 Google permite el uso de clientes de correo de terceros, no le van a cerrar la cuenta por usar uno npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1fwc…wddq you can create https://nine.testrun.org addresses npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1fg3…xyzf "uk" ist der korrekte, offizielle ISO 639 Sprachcode für "Ukrainisch", der so auch anderswo Verwendung findet. "Englich" ist "en", das Land "Ukraine" ist "ua". npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1ag2…46cj thanks you for https://mailchat.pl! npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat We just refined the user facing "download" page to include instant #chatnail onboarding instructions https://delta.chat/en/download npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1upj…2c6m could you post on https://support.delta.chat? If you happen to have a reproducable issue (i.e. give a recipe how to get the problem) chances are we can quickly fix it. Delta's algorithms for group consistency (i.e. adding/removing members) are constantly improved -- it's actually a somewhat non-trivial problem. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1grf…c4ul das ist der Plan, ja :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1wpl…7d2c unter Android geht Delta eigentlich recht zuverlaessig -- es sei denn, dein Kollege hat "battery optimizations" nicht disabled fuer Delta oder benutzt ein Modell, was laut https://dontkillmyapp.com/ Probleme macht. Ueber kurz oder lang braucht es wohl auch einen opt-in fuer push-notifications von google. Seufz. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1wpl…7d2c Die gute Nachricht -- wir sind an Push Notis verschaeft dran -- nehme mal an, es geht um iOS, richtig? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1ta5…6v5g @npub1j0g…fsqp getting more data in "mobile cost" would be very interesting for various reasons, among them: Google/Apple claim that their "battery optimization" focus requires disallowing apps to run in background, and everybody needs to use their centralized push-notification architecture. In practise, users reported that using a phone and Delta Chat without google services *significantly improves battery usage*. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1j0g…fsqp seconded -- from our side we spent considerable efforts for minimizing traffic but more could be done likely. getting comporative measurements between the messengers would be very interesting and appreciated! npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Not only are we user-testing app release candidates with various groups ahead of putting it to stores (thanks to the many helpers from across the globe!) but we are also intertwining design decisions with early user-testing with actual groups in risk (big shoutout to [email protected] !) -- see here for an example which showcases that the question on which "attacker" to focus on is a fundamental question and you can not meaningfully discuss "security" without it. https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-android/pull/2916#issuecomment-1883086981 npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub16yp…5xn6 npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1hq7…0ln7 fair enough. We removed the image. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1hq7…0ln7 if you find at least the textual content agreeable we can talk about the picture .... There are many expressions and pictures to be found with the #37c3 hashtag which together consistute what was congress this year apart from all the non publically expressed conversations and follow.ups npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1hq7…0ln7 some liked it, and yes, ai generated. It says so in the caption. It doesn't represent congress but some aspects of it, no? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat #37c3 was a blast ... Lots of enjoyable and surprising chats and developments and new collabs, affinities and synergies .... Wishing you all happy transitions and phasings into new beginnings with accelerated escape velocities from the many mainsteeam catasrrophical developments 💜 npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1xda…jad3 @npub1f2w…pyqy think H is right now at #komona npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat The #37c3 delta chat group size is now at 67 members ... Still no glitches except a bit of confusion with someone switching from one account to another and then another :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat The #37c3 delta chat group has now 48 members, all using guaranteed end to end encryption and several games and apps .... So far without a glitch, no "couldn't decrypt" errors, everything lightning fast, some people using multiple devices with their account, 30 people joining during lice onboarding on day1 and using a editor together in the chat (cryptpad without a server basically). Seems like all the milestones of 2023 (guaranteed e2ee, web apps, chatmail) are ... Actually playing out ;) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat More #deltachat folks are arriving at #37c3 today and tomorrow .... We I'll be around #komona in hall H ... On day 1 we intend to do a #chatmail hands on session probably in the evening. There is usually a #komona billboard with planned sessions .... Anyways, everyone, please have enjoyable travels and a wonderful (as can be these days, for some it's gruesome) beginnings of 2024 ... See you at 37c3 or elsewhere! npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1x3v…dv48 There is one, actually :) there is the Autocrypt standard, which specifies how keys are exchanged in the background. Delta Chat is just one of the email clients which implements it: https://autocrypt.org/dev-status.html npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1ch9…z4nt yes, you need to use qr code scans for establishing e2e encrypted communication. https://delta.chat/en/help#howtoe2ee npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1ch9…z4nt sure it does already. You can try one of our development servers eg c1.testrun.org and chat with nine.testrun.org address. We support others setting up chatmail services on different domain and under their sovereignty. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat #chatmail is not a replacement for Whatsapp in the traditional sense. It's a small machine that can be tweaked in many ways. The tweakability of the e-mail system is in it's DNA and practises ... that is the antithesis to WA if you like :) What drives nine.testrun.org, the first public chatmail service, is fully visible at https://github.com/deltachat/chatmail -- a minimalist config and setup, some python modules and tests, standard postfix/dovecot. co-incidentally pretty fast but there is a twist ;) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub12jg…0gha @npub1lw6…y4ye all of the documentation and installation scripts are contained in this repository: https://github.com/deltachat/chatmail npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Today, we are unveiling chatmail services, making onboarding with #deltachat a breeze, with peace of mind. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1xth…49e7 It's an annoying topic, considering that Delta Chat minimizes battery usage already and just keeps a connection open so that e-mail servers can push new messages. But in any case, we have a tentative plan to improve the iOS notification story in the next major release. We'll get there and we hear you :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1xth…49e7 in fact we aim to improve iOS notficiations for the next major release npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Some in our communities are apparently having fun ... taking no sides ;) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat We just published the new "Encryption and Security" FAQ section: npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat We are currently revising the FAQ regarding common questions about E2E-encryption and OpenPGP Security, Metadata protection, verified groups etc. in this PR https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-pages/pull/727/files npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Do you sometimes hesitate to give out your Whatsaypp or Signal address for work, project or private uses respectively? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @npub1d68…dham you could probably try to reuse the android frontend and connect it to your core. When @npub1z5d…lat4 started the project, he took Telegram's UI and exchanged the core with a C-Lib. It's quite some work but not impossible to figure this out for someone knowlegablee on Android/Java. You could also do some PRs to Delta Chat Android to get a feel and help to understand things. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Small update: a few hours later we had tagged a fixing 1.40.1 which is in the pipelines of fdroid while the brown bag release 1.40.0 is marked as invalid and should not get auto-Installed further. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat It seems that the fdroid 1.40 fdroid #deltachat built is broken. Sorry about that. We are trying to mitigate and fix. You can mark this 1.40.0 update to be ignored in the fdroid app. If you already installed the new version then try downgrading. Greetings from #cccamp23
