Secure decentralized messaging across all major platforms. Instant and reliable via fast chatmail relays, compatible with classic email providers. Features secure mini web apps for fun and collaboration, end-to-end encrypted and with P2P realtime channels. Security-audited multiple times.
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Last Notes npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Telegram is an extreme security risk for its users, its developers and operators, holding data and metadata for over a billion people on central servers! Our decentralized zero-metadata messaging approach is diametrically opposed to such big-platform designs https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero But there is more: #chatmail relays are zero-state: you can wipe the relay's disks, create a new fresh setup, and users just continue chatting. Operators have actually done this. An *actually* state-less server :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat It's hard these days to find a unifying description, or know about all the people and communities involved in #deltachat #chatmail #webxdc developments. One shared sentiment probably is wanting to develop anti-authoritarian technologies and cultures around it, and being opposed to authoritarian tech policy moves in the West, chat control, age verification, prescribing Google/Apple control, enforcing digital app use etc It's also the reason we are only posting on the fediverse bridged to bsky. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat What do you think is unique about the #deltachat project in the realm of secure cross-platform messaging? You tell us :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…fm4q how so? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Reminder: There are no accounts in the classic sense anywhere with #chatmail or #deltachat. It's all private profiles on end user devices which co-ordinate in a #p2p fashion. Chat profiles *use* email (relay) addresses for transporting messages through a federated e2ee-restricted SMTP network. A chat profile or chat group has zero data on the server. It's radically different from classic email servers, Whatsapp, Signal, XMPP and Matrix servers which *define* and control chat identity. https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/116/643/000/131/217/285/original/d3ba9a418234ea6f.png npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…7k5d We are doing our best but mistakes like a wrong link or a misleading link happen. In the fediverse and support forum, we have otherwise linked to the security FAQ section many times. What is likely missing more than refining the FAQ entry, is a comprehensive security paper, linking and putting the audits in context, and giving 10-15 pages of going into some details, threat models etc. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…7k5d ups, thanks for pointing a bug in our home page! You are totally right to criticize that audits are not the same as security analysis. The "audited end-to-end encryption" link should actually go to: https://delta.chat/en/help#security-audits It's also fixed on https://delta.chat now. Status: there are 5 published independent audits and one published security analysis from the ETH Applied Crypto Group. There is another soon to be published audit, and more audits scheduled this year. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat We don't think any institution or state has the right to prevent families and friends from private chatting, physically or digitally. But the Cyber Authority China (CaC) seems to take offense: - they made Apple remove #deltachat iOS for mainland china - their great firewall appears to block some #chatmail relays - if you ask DeepSeek directly about Delta Chat, it doesn't want to talk It's pretty sad, really. Everybody on this planet needs, and has a human right to private communication. https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/116/523/548/441/767/249/original/ad53d7ff60ee21bc.png npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…5pf5 sorry. we edited the original post, reads clearer? Otherwise drop a DM but please keep in mind we have a 500 char limit and dopn't want to rewrite the whole post :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat We’ve been busy building and releasing but it’s high time to share some major news: @sovtechfund is investing nearly €500K into #chatmail This 18-month commitment supports chatmail maintainers keeping the core infrastructure secure and evolving, which is the backbone for: #DeltaChat @arcanechat @nprofile…99nn Parla on Gnome (cc @nprofile…5pf5 ) and many chat bots A huge thank you to the Sovereign Tech Fund for investing in open, secure and decentralized communication! https://www.sovereign.tech/tech/chatmail npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat #deltachat user profiles are private and invisible to the public. No one can discover you, or your children, via phone numbers or any other public handle. Chat profiles exist only on user devices. No PIN and no "SMS verification code" ever asked or needed. The lack of "public discovery" also means you don't auto-discover others via phone numbers or other public handles. Getting in contact with others is "opt in": you scan a QR code or click an invite link to join a group or open a chat. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…pqzv we strive towards making relay selection completely automatic, but for now we want to make sure it works at all, and smooth around the edges ;) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…s63u If you add multiple relays to your profile and change between them, you will appear as the same contact, both in 1:1 and group chats. Internally since Delta Chat v2 all contacts in encrypted chats (the ones not marked with an envelope icon) are identified by their OpenPGP key, and it does not matter from which email address the message arrives, so when you switch to another address your contacts will likely not even notice unless they look in debug info. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…s63u You can switch the sending relay at any time. If you send a message and sending gets stuck because the sending relay is not reachable, you can select another relay for sending and keep sending messages. There is no automatic "failover" yet. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…e3gw the instructions were about adding a second relay. In the screen you posted you can just create a profile and then go to advanced settings. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…e3gw Are you doing this on the phone or on desktop? From Android, if you go to the second relay page (https://mehl.cloud/) and click on the QR code (with the "Einen kostenlosen Email-Account bekommen" alt text), this will open Delta Chat, possibly ask you to unlock the phone, and add a relay to the currently selected account. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat This morning nine.testrun.org was briefly unavailable, some network problem. A good time to remind everyone to add a second relay to your #deltachat app: 1. Go to https://chatmail.at/relays randomly choose one of the listed relay pages and copy the invitation code to your clipboard 2. In delta chat settings go to advanced/relays and tap "add relay" and paste the invitation code 3. That's it. If one relay is unavailable you still can receive and send messages. https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero#maximizing-availability-and-resilience-through-multi-path-delivery npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat "Popularity is overrated" is an often occuring phrase in our circles. Which is of course nonsense because only what is popular, counts, right? Only what everybody else does is a valid choice, right? #deltachat #chatmail and #webxdc are used in private places and communities that people are molding for themselves. We are just providing tools and approaches that work ... At least most of the time 😅 "Nothing works all the time" is another project mantra. Brb preparing the next releases :) https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/116/425/711/182/781/916/original/5da9f9b36a9fb34f.jpg npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…ns8p what do you mean with "delta chat advertising obsessed with protocol"? https://delta.chat/en/ and appstore description barely mention any protocol? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…ns8p @nprofile…vcgd new protocols are fine. The point may rather be that contrary to popular nerd belief protocols are only one part of an effort. What distinguishes #deltachat from #xmpp is that one is a cross-platform mass-user focused app with a consistent UX across the platforms and using standards under the hood, while the other is a set of specs with many different implementations and UX approaches on the various platforms, and sometimes tenuous compatibility between them. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat the public #chatmail relay list https://chatmail.at/relay covers about ~20% or so of chat relays we heart about and have traces or hints from, and we definitely don't see everything -- which is how it should be :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat What if all public funding and all private donations to our efforts stop tomorrow? Users should be fine for years thanks to the wonderful world-wide community of #chatmail relay operators 💜 Relays are dirt cheap to run. Also, our developments are much cheaper and less complex compared to what we know from comparable efforts. No worries though! We currently have moneys to help sustain ~15 contributors, with a sum similar to what other projects pay for their foundation president/CEO alone :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…dysu @nprofile…4e7w thanks for the praise, much appreciated. we are indeed constantly working to improve and refine UX. We hear you but need to work with 1/100th of signal resources. Our last release contained two big cryptographic and network layer improvements but then also a lot of UI goodies. In this section, in particular, we try to remind the crypto/network enthusiasts among us about the importance of user interfacing https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero#at-risk-user-needs-1-availability-2-telegram-3-security npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat First Signal, now WhatsApp is rolling out usernames -- to protect against the privacy leak of identifying phone numbers (except the tiny detail of phone numbers leaking to them). #deltachat does not require a phone number, and you can have multiple chat profiles, and fluidly change your transport servers as time goes by. By separating message transport operations from chat apps, #chatmail is designed to prevent any point of central control, and provide resiliency. https://chatmail.at npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat After three intense months of work from more than a dozen contributors, #deltachat 2.48 releases are rolling. Maybe the most feature-packed releases ever? - "zero metadata" messaging - native Audio/Video calls on Android and iOS, as well as UbuntuTouch - Group and Channel descriptions - A new background audio player - Revamped Download-on-Demand and, last but not least, the long-awaited next-generation of messaging resiliency through "multi-path" routing .... https://delta.chat/en/2026-03-31-zero npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…063m we are lightly following its developments but are not impressed by its UI/UX, and also don't think they particularly care for resilience (they are blocked since >15 months in russia, and don't do much about it, for example), also they don't appear to care much for people with small data plans and bad networks, and rather tune everything for resource-rich always-connected users. They also appear to be going down the crypto-coin rabbithole quite a bit. YMMV. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat End-to-End Encryption is good but metadata protection counts as much. Names, group descriptions and memberships, avatars, who talks to whom ... Both #deltachat and #signal go to great length to protect all the metadata that WhatsApp grants itself gratuitously. #Matrix stores similar scales of metadata on their servers, even if you can choose which server stores it. Everything is better than #Telegram which additionally stores message contents in all group chats/channels and most 1:1 chats. https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/116/283/352/352/058/336/original/718bc5ce0cbbaa02.png npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…eld0 you can well use regular IMAP based inboxes and standard email servers. It's the mixing of cleartext and e2ee clients on the same email address that is problematic since years already, as it caused a lot of implementation work on our side, and still not nice UX in some cases. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…j4kk @nprofile…zjzz @nprofile…tpt8 could be possible. Maybe discuss/check on https://support.delta.chat? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat The last two weeks saw a dev gathering in the black forest from several in #chatmail, #deltachat and #webxdc communiities, also joined by @nprofile…zjzz and @nprofile…tpt8 folks. The tech demos and hacking results we presented to each other, were pretty mind blowing and tracing a path to very interesting futures, delivered in working code, not just some grand plan. Let us just say for now that we are getting to the fun parts of an age old http://testrun.org motto :) happy equinox! May the tides turn! https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/116/260/866/845/699/447/original/6d9e5d72cfcb0cf1.png npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…selc is this friend using FDroid or Google Play install? Which version of Delta Chat? Can your friend try "Settings -- Notifications -- Force Background connection" to see if it that helps? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…xs6q audio message playback improvements are coming or available with 2.43 which is rolling out. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…aejy For chatmail relays default message size limit is 30 MiB. We don't know if anyone changes it, but even if you change it your recipients need to be able to accept it as well and have inbox large enough to accept such files. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…aejy If you have enabled VPN system-wide, as shown e.g. with a key icon in the status bar on Android, then there is nothing else you need to do to make Delta Chat use it. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…aejy Delta Chat does not have any special proxies, it supports SOCKS5, HTTP(S) proxies and Shadowsocks. Tor works. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…dd4h It is already written at https://chatmail.at/doc/relay/getting_started.html#minimal-requirements-and-prerequisites that "build machine" needs key-based SSH access to the server. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…e40t luckily, an estimated 99.9% of users don't need to buy DNS or a VPS to use delta chat -- and probably around 98% don't even know what these TLAs mean :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…dd4h If your SSH key is password-protected, run "ssh-agent bash", then inside the shell unlock the key with "ssh-add", then run cmdeploy npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…p36c we are not abandoning email but de-prioritizing cleartext email. IETF-standardized protocols remain in use across the board, including modern OpenPGP based standards. We are "encryption first" and use the email system for encrypted decentralized communications. Many different server implementations and operations work just fine. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…du6u sure, email addresses as human recognizable handles are nice! We do have discussions to re-introduce email addresses for this use (tell someone your contact address and that's it, no QRs, weird links etc.) but it will be about establishing end-to-end encryption. It's not a current prio but it's definitely something that we can think about and do. FWIW https://securejoin.delta.chat already implements automatic secure hand-shaking for establishing E2EE. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Our strong focus on end to end encryption and zero metadata does mean that one of the original project notions of "you can use delta chat as a lightweight cleartext email client and your contacts don't need to care" was deprioritized since some time now and remains available rather for specialists only. It used to be encrypted mail that was hard to do and only for experts. Delta kind of reversed this. Now it's hard to do cleartext. But you can self host your mailbox addresses. No changes there! npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat some insights from #deltachat forum gardening 🌸 - we’re getting about 7 new feature proposals per week, with over 1k ideas shared so far - we aim to keep things simple and focused, so we often have to say "no!", but: - we do listen: over the years, we’ve fulfilled about ONE THIRD of your wishes 🧞♂️ your pushes are appreciated ❤️ https://support.delta.chat/c/features/6 npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…dysu you're not doing anything wrong ❤️ "@nprofile…cwnm", so called "mentions", are not implemented yet, but discussed at https://support.delta.chat/t/direct-mention-on-groups/185 npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…xxh4 there are several teams and project areas and wider contributor circles. So it's hard to give a unified answer as we haven't discussed it widely yet. In any case anyone submitting to key repos needs to sign off personally on it, and it's human reviewed and merged. AI slop issues and PRs and "security findings" are usually closed immediately. Generally there is a lot of skepticism and critique on using LLMs, training data etc but also curious experimenting in various corners. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…fyvh Annoying sync times/processing after longer offline times is a known problem for heavy users of delta, and you are not alone having it. So far it hasn't been prioritized because focus is still on removing obstacles and making it easier for people who freshly join. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…7q8k yes, you can use dedicated mail boxes on your own server and it works with chatmail relays and other email servers. Proper TLS and dkim is needed, typically. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…y3sx could you expand what you consider bashing here? It should be fine to point out differences in architectures and how identities are handled in messaging systems, no? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat #DeltaChat breaks the one app, one ID rule of phone-number-based apps by supporting multiple chat profiles. This allows for true private messaging where you can keep a public identity for the Web or Fediverse separate from a private one for family and friends. Managing multiple selves is a new experience for many, but it is key to digital autonomy. We are working to make multi-profile handling even smoother in upcoming releases to ensure switching contexts is seamless. (3/3) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat The total privacy of #DeltaChat has a trade-off: there is no global directory. Connecting for private messaging requires a direct QR scan or using an existing channel to exchange invite links. The hurdle is often the readiness of friends, family, or those around you to switch. However, once connected, the app is an enjoyable daily driver. It is about moving to a space where you cannot be found by strangers, but can still enjoy modern, reliable chat with those who matter. ... (2/3) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat While platforms like #Matrix or #Signal manage user identities on a server, #DeltaChat and #Chatmail are not platforms in the classic sense. They operate without a central registry, meaning there is no central gatekeeper to grant or deny access. This setup for private messaging naturally complicates invasive age verification. Without a public registry or user discovery, there is no technical hook to verify users. #Chatmail also enforces E2EE by rejecting all unencrypted data. ... (1/3) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…et8j not easily. Conceptually, operators have no way to send unsolicited messages to their users. It's not quite 100% true yet but we are working on making it so. We are also going for multi-relay support which means that the downtime of a single relay out of three you might be using, does not matter. Chatting will continue unimpeded. Please see the Fosdem tallks we posted about earlier, especially this one: https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/3F9VTU-deltachat-chatmail-relays-multi-transport/ npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…gry0 maye try again. A looooooot has changed. You don't need an email address, and in fact users don't need to understand or know the email system is relaying messages. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…aejy of course delta chat supports end-to-end encryption and a pretty solid and audited form at that. See https://delta.chat/en/help#e2ee for more details. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…m6h0 congratulations! You have done an incredible job showing and living the power of free and open source decentralized infrastructure and culture! We are very grateful and humbled that you could put to use our now years long efforts on providing decentralized resilient #foss messaging infra and apps, for anyone to use, inspect and modify! Wishing all of you the best of luck, health and safety! npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…8ht9 No, that's what the long-term fallback key is for. That will be used, if no recent rotating key is available. This way, you avoid unable-to-decrypt errors, while still protecting against store-now-delete-later in most cases. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat It took a while but it's shaping up nicely :) Post-Quantum Cryptography and Reliable Deletion, better known as Forward Secrecy, are going to become available in 2026 in #deltachat. For more details, including the recent #fosdem26 talk recording: https://autocrypt2.org npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…432y when you loose the last copy of your chat profile then the identity is gone and unrecoverable. However, you can always create a tar file in settings - chats and media - export, or you can setup a second device. Each device is autonomous and does not depend on the original one. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Our second #FOSDEM talk is about to start: Hocuri talks about the upcoming #multirelay profiles, which use more than one address to exchange messages! Live Stream is here: https://live.fosdem.org/watch/ud2218a npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Now in the #FOSDEM live stream: Holger Krekel introducing #autocrypt2, a mechanism to protect against store-now-decrypt-later attacks, to be introduced in Delta! https://live.fosdem.org/watch/k4201 More details about the talk: https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/TV7GCC-autocrypt_2_post-quantum-cryptography_and_reliable_deletion_forward-secrecy/ #DeltaChat #forwardsecrey #reliabledeletion npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…2786 thanks, really nice background image btw :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…2786 you might have fun with some of the retro-games available via "attach app" or also visible here: https://webxdc.org/apps but yes, finding circles to use it with, is a challenge. We know. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…7gnc yeah :) we reverted a recent change to make it work again. More info would be very helpful in fixing it, so we can do the change properly this time :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…7gnc thanks, we will look into it. Can you send a message to https://i.delta.chat/#56136E70473FB9E59331D760C007984652839B20&a=delta%40merlinux.eu&n=Delta%20Chat%20team&i=ZVfPYn6j2fvtpc_0M6V45uEP&s=WWjjkBKJJ3So8AfuHGXNjcyE to give us more details? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…fdzn there is no lack of discussion but it's not yet a priority, see https://support.delta.chat/search?q=Sticker%20%20order%3Alatest npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat If you want to do a fun thing this weekend, maybe write a little webxdc app for your family or friends chats? There are many to fork from, see https://webxdc.org/apps and for development docs https://webxdc.org/docs And for development tooling https://GitHub.com/webxdc/webxdc-dev which simulates a multi member chat environment to run your app, before you post the zip file to a chat of yours. Everyone can start it. No app stores. No logins. No gafam. With built-in end-to-end encryption. Cheers. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat #deltachat and #chatmail and #webxdc are in a unique "market" where few other cross-platform messengers can play. The unique and growing market is shaped by rising authoritarianism, internet shutdowns and restrictions. We are building a "Minecraft world of messaging" where skilled people can rip apart, modify, replace, recombine and do modding, at every level. All #foss and also: Decent UX and UI. Offline first. End to end encrypted. Standards based. Resilient. Decentralized. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…tetg yes, maybe just ask again in february, or find us at #fosdem26 happenings. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat #deltachat does - no bindings to public handles/numbers - no address-book upload - not do public contact or group discovery - not have critical persistent server state (!) Social identification is private, between people though ephemeral #P2P #E2EE messages. Servers see messages with random sender and recipient addresses, but those can not be mapped to a phone number or public handle. Servers see IP addresses. But you can use Tor, or a VPN, if you want to hide that. It' not all bad :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…q45s for setting up contact with a friend, see https://delta.chat/en/help#howtoe2ee -- there also is a mode that doesn't require a camera/scan-qr code but sharing an invite link. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…q45s exporting a backup file didn't work? Or importing it? This would be a severe bug. Please elaborate. ah, and make sure you are using consistent recent versions, to be sure -- versions around 2.35+. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…q45s there is e.g. a "copy" button that will copy a link. You can also go to settings/chats and media/export backup and then on the other device import that file via "i already have a profile" from the startup screen. https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/115/872/002/577/120/131/original/330cf65e38dd0370.png npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…q45s you can also get a link out of a QR code and ingest it on the other side via paste. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…g0nf well, chatmail has higher rate limits, but then several hard restrictions: only end-to-end encryption allowed, only strict TLS allowed, only strictly validating DKIM allowed. Not sure this counts as "less restrictions" overall :) npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…g0nf maybe take a look at the front page https://chatmail.at/ and follow links from there if you want to know more. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat #iran mostly shut down now their own state-aligned national messengers that they previously positioned as alternatives to Western messengers and Telegram, especially for when the internet is nationalized and locked down. There remain some islands of functioning delta messaging but the lockdown of private comms is truly dire, and likely a precursor for heightened violence.This correlation is not a political stance but reflects research in internet shutdowns of the last decade. Ask eg @nprofile…dd72 npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…m7ms proton via a proxy some people managed to get working. But we don't recommend it. And with tuta you are probably right. We just got a question from someone about using tuta with delta which is why this slipped in 😅 in any case we do value their privacy focus as well. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat PSA We are happy about the wealth of privacy focused classic email providers (proton, tutanota, posteo, mailbox.org etc) but they are not geared for instant secure messaging. Do yourself, family and friends a favor and use delta with any of the many https://chatmail.at/relays Or setup a relay of your own if you feel like it. Or use a a dedicated chat email address on your own or any classic email server that has reliable service and no obnoxious rate limits or annoying spam handling. Cheers. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…qrmx we doubt it. Better use any of https://chatmail.at/relays would be our recommendation. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Our stance simplified: we want to make private communications available to anyone on the planet. Problem: governments everywhere tend to want to control and contain private communications. While Iran and Russia might be contemporary poster examples trying to control private communication, almost all of the "Western" countries have similar control-tendencies, EU Chatcontrol, UK Online Safety Act, US KOSA etc.pp. And we often call those out. Without private communication, things are bleak. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…9q3v yes, channels scale in ways that group chats do not. In channels, the message size is constant no matter the number of recipients. In group chats message size grows with the number of members. In both cases, if a message is delivered to a hundred recipients on a relay, it will only take disk space once. So overall, channels should have pretty good scalability characteristics. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Abdanan, January 7th 2026. A 40K people city in Iranian mountains where people took over all police and government buildings, as far as we gather. Internet blockades are happening intermittently in various forms. There a massive sense of uncertainty and panic, also from the government side. We hear of many people succeeding in using #deltachat and #chatmail relays, and are trying, to the best of our abilities, to help people set up communications so families and friends can stay safe. https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/115/859/998/956/687/288/original/6a48a745edb62a0f.png npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…n8na currently, #deltachat works everywhere, including china where it's a kind of secret tip on remaining securely connected when cross borders. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat several people reporting lately that #deltachat has become their main app: They are now spending more time in the chats, also with web apps, than in any other app. It may be a turn to more private communications when social media has become more toxic, obnoxious and dangerous in many places? #deltachat and #chatmail.is indeed about being readily available when other forms of communications become unavailable or dangerous like in Iran or Russia but also in western and other countries. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…s8xx nevermind, maybe we just wait for the "0days" then, and leave your generic comments alone even if misleading. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…s8xx Is it too much to expect a bit of precision in your analysis and statements? Doing some click-bait comments like "their code: disables TLS security to support legacy 1024-bit RSA" is very misleading. The *opt-out* to allow 1024-bit RSA is for real-world people that can not change anything about the fact that the server they are using only offers RSA1024. Most people just use the defaults, and the default is strict_tls checking, and that has been security-audited independently twice. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…s8xx please read more carefully the source code. You are in the "else" branch of "if strict_tls" and strict_tls is True by default. It's pretty deep down in advanced menus to opt out of the default strict tls handling (with RustTLS btw). Opt out is needed for some users who would otherwise have no TLS at all in their national environment, and where they often use public WIFIs, so eavesdropping cleartext from people around is trivial but cracking RSA1024 is not. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat We are looking for an experienced Android UI developer for https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-android. Native Java, close to the system, with minimal deps and fluff. Networking/encryption/persistence is not part of the job as it happens in https://github.com/chatmail/core Remote collab is fine and the default. We meet in person every few months in the black forest or other occasions/places. We can do 20-30 hours per week contracts with 4-5K EUR pay per month. Drop us a DM if you are interested. #FediHire npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…y9wn right now, for classic dedicated email addresses, you can go to the "chats and media - delete-from-server" setting and set it to "after download" or some higher time frame if you have multiple devices on the same address. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…kzr2 "Video chat instance" is replaced with calls: https://support.delta.chat/t/what-happened-to-video-chat/4339 npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…y9wn thanks for the praise! a) using a dedicated address on an existing SMTP server is supported but you might want to arrange for automatic removal of old messages on the server yourself currently. We are working on improving this supported "dedicated email address as relay" case. b) migration is easy these days. You can start with any of the https://chatmail.at/relays and later migrate to a new relay via "advanced settings - relays -- add relay" and mark the new as default relay. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Don't believe those who loudly claim email can not avoid metadata! They are ignorant of our continuous works on minimizing metadata: DONE: - no phone number other identifying data needed - no cleartext "Subject" - no cleartext "To" - randomized "Date" - no IP addresses - group/avatar/attachment/etc metadata only contained in encrypted message parts Upcoming: - servers to never see cryptographic ID metadata - remove "threading" and auxilliary headers - experiment with Sealed Sender npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat We support folks who in turn support friends and family in #Iran, to provide resilient private chatting. #deltachat is running pretty reliably and well so far. See also https://chaos.social/@delta/115808705832876995 npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…m0p4 there are many computer people pretty happy with #deltachat ... who value precisely that they can use it with their families and friends easily, though. With a lot of alternative software, the complaint is that it is only usable by specialists. We are pretty happy that in our case it is more the specialists who need to work harder and read the FAQ to understand that some lines of traditional thinking about eg email and pgp do not apply https://delta.chat/en/help npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…x7fw yes, it's known a lot more.this year. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat It's true: the more technical background and pre-conceptions you have, the more more likely you run into trouble with #deltachat 😂 Don't think so much! 😉 https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/115/810/230/370/896/483/original/67a398dd66c93a28.png npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…sllv no,.the workshop was unrecorded. But islts hands on and would be difficult.to.record. npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat #39c3 .ending .. quite an enjoyable blast, and thanks to all the wonderful people just dropping by to say "thank you, it all works very nice for us"! 🥰 Certainly raised team spirits :) This year around, apart from one #chatmail relay setup workshop we didn't do any registered events at congress. Pushing out releases, Illnesses and engagements in various other organizing prevented more public sessions. Next ones will be around #fosdem2026 where also several of us will be around. Cheers! https://assets.chaos.social/media_attachments/files/115/809/623/640/344/924/original/8b1b2e45bd6d87b8.jpg npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat Iran may be on the verge of Internet shutdowns again. If you have friends or family in #Iran, now is the time to let them onboard for example with https://tiiiz.ir -- because using in-country servers helps to stay connected. If you need support for setting up a relay in or for Iran, send us a DM and we'll see to connect you with other knowledgeable operators. با آرزوی فردایی بهتر... npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…7tt2 @nprofile…z5vf We just tried to note that so far we see no way how delta chat and it's end to end encryption guarantees would be affected by gpgfail. What is confusing about that? npub16zxpwcght62n7q4j88uj6ynehdqfzk572rues3y2tshr0vehfwjq2v4ynp Delta Chat @nprofile…jzac @nprofile…z5vf some distros are discussing gpgfail but are not engaged much in those discussions. Better ask other people of the author of gpgfail.