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2024-06-30 06:02:01

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or work out why jellyfin wont work for you?

2024-06-28 02:18:29

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i have none set and drafts work fine, why would you publish drafts to a relay?

2024-06-28 02:13:43

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there is no drafts relay

2024-06-20 04:56:28

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mafintosh and dmc are 2 of the main guys, they are both available in keet, mafintosh is in many rooms but mainly the community room (link on the profile page) and i have only seen dmc in 🍐 (invite expires on 2024/7/4 2:50 UTC)
pear://keet/yrbixdcpsnumxkoswdt7qt8c4m4c3xyos8qjmz361gz19akhtoie9fge8ita5quumqkfpnh45dw5d8cbar5rs9iywy9t7x19ckhhjt8r99co5bug
they do have a lot of interesting people around either working for holepunch or using pear, i would maybe suggest you get a bit familiar with it all before doing a talk

2024-06-18 03:03:29

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you should definitely have a look around and stop by the community chat room (link on keets profile page)
there is lots of resources like, https://pears.com/ , https://docs.pears.com/ , https://youtube.com/@Pears_p2p , https://github.com/holepunchto , https://github.com/gasolin/awesome-pears
a great introductory podcast is https://youtube.com/watch?v=Qqmdbv01PEk
maybe one day you might do one, i was listening to your chat with @npub1ye5…knpr and kept thinking pear is what you need

2024-06-17 05:00:18

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he just stop posting? maybe he is using another nym?

2024-06-17 04:56:44

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what about a proxy relay for those connections? a relay relay

2024-06-16 20:05:03

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bittorrent is sha256 now

2024-06-16 11:42:55

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scales fine just depends how you use it
'the concurrent number of users of Mainline DHT is from 16 million to 28 million' https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainline_DHT

2024-06-16 07:15:07

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why not just use a p2p platform? clients can then load files via multiple servers at once, can use index and dht lookups, anyone can add servers

2024-06-16 07:11:38

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you can still have dedicated hosts for torrents, called seedboxes, deploying additional 'servers' is very easy in a p2p network, you dont need domains or relays

2024-06-16 07:07:27

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? you can still make files censorship resistant its just a matter of distribution, look at torrents

2024-06-16 07:04:32

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there is already established tech to solve these problems, webtorrent is meant for p2p but browsers are not, mafintosh the creator of webtorrent has largely given up on browsers and is now running this company called holepunch making pear and keet, there is no other p2p codebase getting more dev on in the last 3 years and the results show

2024-06-16 06:54:48

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its way too complicated to be distributing files via many notes, usenet is way obsolete, many p2p systems since replaced it, bittorrent is the most used and stable currently, pear is an evolution of bittorrent and could be used for all nostr content files and text, blossom is not even using a merkle hash

2024-06-15 10:01:26

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what about build twitter on keet and abandon nostr?

2024-06-13 16:55:20

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this is an interesting use case

2024-06-13 11:38:18

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wireshark the connections, it will be open source and the performance will improve

2024-06-13 11:36:28

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there is this app by the guy that made webtorrents called keet.io

2024-06-13 11:33:46

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pear and keet is a more modern form of torrent

2024-06-13 11:32:47

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twitter for censorship resistance?

2024-06-13 11:32:00

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the place for this exists
Join me on Keet.io - The Epstein Archive (invite expires on 2024/6/27 9:31 UTC)
pear://keet/yrbt3drgixr8gg41nngphrtj14f57pgtn7q1rty5wzppsiu1tqdzrfq5juk9nanjjk959x3adkzch84u51op11t8fp7zkqay7g8a4am55fsun9mg

2024-06-12 10:24:30

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telegrams server is not open source

2024-06-12 10:20:36

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jump them all to keet and the devs will likely give up on nostr for pear

2024-06-12 10:19:10

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keet kills them all

2024-06-12 10:18:02

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totally keet will replace signal and all, not sure why they are using signal for a group chat as the rooms are so limited in size unlike keet with no size limits lol

2024-06-12 10:16:03

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p2p, key based id, sovereignty, scaling, easily replication of data, privacy, file sharing, no phone or email, clear calls, zoom like video calls, super cool devs

2024-06-12 10:10:56

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why bother with the current domain system when everything will go p2p with new name systems

2024-06-12 10:09:22

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video is hardly the best thing on keet, large rooms are, but eventually many things will be best on keet or p2p

2024-06-12 10:07:45

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it doesnt at all

2024-06-09 15:03:16

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try keet instead

2024-06-09 14:35:51

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the fedi is open source and keet is mostly open already with the remaining coming

2024-06-07 13:16:17

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the tracker was added by mistake and will be removed

2024-06-07 12:56:29

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pears.com community room link on profile page of keet.io

2024-06-07 12:39:45

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many cases

2024-06-07 12:25:14

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v1 was alpha v2 beta, they are almost on v3.4 but i know what you mean as the bugs are crazy, it is improving regularly tho, a release at least once a week sometimes 3 a week

2024-06-07 12:20:28

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whats the issue with dhts? a dht for relays would work very well as there is so few

2024-06-07 12:18:55

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you couldnt have used it recently as they fixed scaling issues since the end of last year and while features are still coming and new bugs regular with each release(weekly) the future is very clearly (universal) p2p now thanks to keet and pear

2024-06-07 12:14:23

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there is a link to the community room on the profile page in keet

2024-06-07 12:10:49

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using pear? i read his timeline and its mostly about blossom which is not quite p2p

2024-06-07 12:04:41

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no merkle hash?

2024-06-07 12:03:45

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blockchains are useful, just without the shitcoins

2024-06-07 12:00:09

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next youll make relays key addressable and add a dht, voila p2p

2024-06-07 11:56:09

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iroh is a make over of ipfs, pear is the leader in p2p
https://github.com/n0-computer/iroh and pears.com

2024-06-07 11:40:04

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pear uses their own merkle hash using blake 2b because it is faster than blake3 https://github.com/holepunchto/hypercore/blob/main/lib/merkle-tree.js
https://github.com/holepunchto/hypercore-crypto/blob/main/index.js
blake2b as crypto_generichash from libsodium https://libsodium.gitbook.io/doc/hashing/generic_hashing

2024-06-07 11:16:57

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https://github.com/holepunchto/hyperdht

2024-06-07 11:15:14

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the creator of webtorrent is now behind pears.com

2024-06-04 08:29:55

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nostr needs p2p to solve this

2024-06-03 03:53:30

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some people seem to like censorship, like elon musk

2024-06-03 03:51:17

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you would hope

2024-06-03 03:46:37

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when is he adding pear p2p?

2024-05-30 04:15:27

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yes they have already opened 95% of keets code plus many other things they are working on, they also release in a way perfect for open source with many docs etc and mafintosh the founder is extremely pro open source
https://github.com/mafintosh 917 repos
https://github.com/holepunchto 246 repos

2024-05-30 04:08:13

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you should be able to paste the whole text with the link into keet

2024-05-30 04:04:26

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its actually growing under musk, but censorship is still there and probably increasing

2024-05-30 04:03:30

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join the community its on the profile tab of keet otherwise here is some more rooms https://github.com/gasolin/awesome-pears/blob/main/keet_rooms.md

2024-05-30 04:00:57

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and keet.io is already better for some things, and more every week

2024-05-30 03:59:09

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Join me on Keet.io - Holesail.io (invite expires on 2024/6/13 1:57 UTC)
pear://keet/yrb61og3kaxznddzn41fge7pmymjpozcxce7jm9x1eg9iwb8w7j7ozd4pmiakkpksq6mjod8otqtj3jyut3ppxgg3idzcryqneekhrhhnxafn4ug

2024-05-30 03:57:56

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Join me on Keet.io - Holesail.io (invite expires on 2024/6/13 1:57 UTC)
pear://keet/yrb61og3kaxznddzn41fge7pmymjpozcxce7jm9x1eg9iwb8w7j7ozd4pmiakkpksq6mjod8otqtj3jyut3ppxgg3idzcryqneekhrhhnxafn4ug

2024-05-30 03:56:01

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have you tried keet.io ?

2024-05-29 15:49:53

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i dont remember what the new keet multidevice id system uses but hypercore is using ED25519 https://github.com/holepunchto/hypercore-crypto and https://github.com/sodium-friends/sodium-universal and nostr is using Schnorr signatures standard for the curve secp256k1 which sodium wont do, they are both 64bytes i think

2024-05-27 11:46:40

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keet is quite functional enough to carry all its community chat about it and pear on keet
there is a link to the community room on the profile page in keet
today nostr was discussed a lot on keet, supersu the holesail dev is trying out running a nostr relay via holesail

2024-05-27 11:38:17

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so google has centralized email

2024-05-25 04:23:03

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just 6 more shots

2024-05-25 04:10:45

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whats changed?

2024-05-25 04:07:53

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what are relays censoring now? there is still freespeech relays? tbh relays are the big weakness of nostr and why it needs p2p atleast at the relay level

2024-05-25 04:02:48

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no its very easy to stop it, you just use filters

2024-05-25 04:01:44

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use a dht to lookup them

2024-05-25 03:59:58

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what you are describing is p2p so like pear and keet does, infact this is the vision for pear

2024-05-25 03:58:56

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pears.com is perfect for this

2024-05-25 03:58:01

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what is the dirty record of keet? no doubt tether is a ptoblem with all its involvement to pump crypto, including btc

2024-05-23 13:03:23

exactly
#nevent1q…djer

2024-05-22 05:01:12

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they have had a history of not releasing new modules code until they are happy they work well and wont be changed much in the near term

2024-05-22 04:59:02

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the app is made up of many modules, the majority of them are open source

2024-05-22 04:57:19

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they have only open sourced part of it so far, its the vast majority say 95% but not all

2024-05-22 00:10:12

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replace both nostr and signal with keet and be free of servers

2024-05-22 00:06:08

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most of keet is foss and they have said the rest will be

2024-05-22 00:04:48

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not true as the pear release had a massive open sourcing with it including most of the modules in keet
keet is in no way the same app it was 3, 6 or 18 months ago
it is what its made out to be and works very well

2024-05-21 18:30:50

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sounds too good to be true? which bit? lol, i have followed it since starting and it went thru many issues and a long period where it didnt scale well at all, but now that has been solved
i am not sure whats the point of doubting it as you can run keet or run pear and see it work pears.com

2024-05-21 18:26:17

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most of the application is the 'protocol' code which is open, but the ui and some other parts are not open yet
how it works is apparently not that complicated, you can browse a lot of the not yet open code in keet still, i know someone chatting on keet was exploring a beta version of a module called autobase before it was open sourced and worked out how it works, it is central to how the rooms run https://github.com/holepunchto/autobase

2024-05-21 17:52:08

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no sorry, i know for me p2p is super cool and if the data is not passing centralized points its harder to collect
there was some discussion between keet and simplex devs on twitter, otherwise you would have to talk with keet devs on keet or watch some of their podcasts like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqmdbv01PEk
i know they are very focused on security and privacy

2024-05-21 17:35:04

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most of it is already https://github.com/holepunchto
the rest of the code is mostly viewable and all will be open after beta, they need to keep people updated as they iterate and they dont want to be chasing problems from forks currently

2024-05-21 17:09:15

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most of keet is open source, and most of the rest you can still view it
https://github.com/holepunchto

2024-05-21 17:06:44

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as this link has expired you can find a link to this room in the profile tab of keet also here https://github.com/gasolin/awesome-pears/blob/main/keet_rooms.md with other rooms and here is its permanent link from there
Pear Community - general Keet or Pears discussion (Official)
pear://keet/yry7g7wa7bmrjd1xxr7ce64581ij3hozq7589xfgxjrm74kgp34o36pwp46ohw4u1w63o6is6sax6j3swgdi66dmti8p8nfuyypfwewbuy
also here is a room of room links in keet
🍐Pear Portal⚡ Broadcast - the place to find public rooms
pear://keet/yry98p9nixg4wwfx7gst3ucq8m1wu16sscrxmp6sidrd17w3gs1pgkbsymcjkjxatxn54d45d1fhygaqo9n8sgrrerus58cjstyqnstsiw

2024-05-21 17:01:53

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most of keet is already foss, https://github.com/holepunchto
the only connection so far to bitfinex is a couple of emojis
they plan to open the rest of keet after dev is more complete but have good reasons for not doing it currently

2024-05-21 16:58:37

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its the best

2024-05-21 16:58:05

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keet will add more ip privacy in future, as is now you do not make connections to everyone so data can relay already

2024-05-21 16:56:41

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yes it bugs with 2 running like that, you can load keet from pear as you found out

2024-05-21 16:54:59

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paolo who sort out mafintosh to build the team to do this is interested in it because he believes correctly it is the right technology especially over nostr
mafintosh has been at this for a long time before he met paolo, this was not their first project, mafintosh has a long history in open source, pear is completely open and makes up most of keet
they dont want to open all of keet yet because they want to keep everyone updated while they iterate fast, which they have done a lot of, they are also concerned with forks and exploits interfering with dev and interest in keet
there is a lot of interest in pear and there are many projects being built with it, they are usually discussed on keet because keet is now a fully functioning fully p2p ie no relays or servers social platform, it scales infinitely including for media or any files
nostr btw is still using centralized file storage, keet is completely p2p
fun bit of trivia mafintosh created webtorrent

2024-05-21 16:39:13

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the buzz is on keet, there is no real need to discuss keet on other platforms because keet functions as its own social platform, and unlike nostr there is no relays to pay or configure, and all the files and media are distributed and censorship proof, keet is everything nostr is missing and needs

2024-05-21 16:35:06

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most of the code is open with the rest to be after beta, an apk will come soon

2024-05-21 16:33:47

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no one else has managed to achieve what they have which is a social p2p app that scales big, so if they have done something themselves its because they needed to

2024-05-21 16:30:57

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well you should

2024-05-21 16:30:36

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not true

2024-05-21 16:29:07

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keet is mostly open source with a small bit not till later for a few reasons

2024-05-21 16:27:59

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black magic? there is quite a few vids and docs explaining it and most of the code is open, the keet devs are also available in the keet rooms

2024-05-21 16:26:05

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damn nostr i can load the note you replied to

2024-05-21 16:25:01

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nostr has more users and more public reach but keet is cooler