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Last Notes npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood "I added a new rule 15: do not be the reason we need to add a new rule." This is how you know you have an experienced moderator. Cheers @nprofileā¦l9z3 https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/117/154/545/763/985/799/original/a785f9ea3c15e785.png npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦dmpa I'm liking the Marley suggestion. was gonna try Them Belly Full but I like this better npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood For.. reasons.. I am making a wealth inequality playlist. I want songs that aren't TOO aggro and could be background-ish at an event, catchy, topical, without making themselves the center of attention. Here's what I have so far. Please parse this list and suggest along these lines, if you like. The OāJays - For the Love of Money The Flying Lizards - Money (Thatās What I Want) Pink Floyd - Money Pulp - Common People William Shatner / Ben Folds - Common People Stevie Wonder ā Living For The City Marvin Gaye ā Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler) Kareem Rahma ā Really Rich Parents They Might Be Giants ā Minimum Wage Lorde ā Royals Pet Shop Boys ā Opportunities (Letās Make Lots of Money) Depeche Mode ā Everything Counts The Police - Driven To Tears Hozier - Eat Your Young Tennessee Ernie Ford - Sixteen Tons Dolly Parton - 9 to 5 Tracy Chapman - Talkinā bout a Revolution Pete Seeger ā Banks of Marble James McMurtry ā We Canāt Make It Here Prince - Sign Oā The Times Patty Loveless - Youāll Never Leave Harlan Alive Travis Tritt - Lord Have Mercy on the Working Man npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood "If I had to burn every other scene Iāve ever done in my career and leave one, it would be the bus scene in Swiss Army Man. Itās the best six minutes Iāve ever been involved with onscreen." -- Daniel Radcliffe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrK1f4TsQfM npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood If anyone tells you another, shorter version of this song exists, DO NOT BELIEVE THEIR LIES! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s3scfw7DTc npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦h0ll alt text is worth it though (unless you are legit in urgent hurry), I need to blog this npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦380z that's because YOU are not funny npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood "No one person should own a billion of anything." https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/117/078/045/977/893/959/original/3199997fc66d34d0.jpg npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood The three sweetest words any man can say to another man: you were right. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood "There's no way the United States can possibly afford Universal Healthcare, it would cost more than all the taxes we could possibly collect!" Perhaps that is because healthcare in this country -- for some reason -- routinely costs 3Ć-5Ć more than it does in any other country. I present before the court Exhibits A and B: https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/117/024/332/128/762/171/original/79814042ba180026.png https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/117/024/333/959/039/953/original/a0a403cf8992fc09.png npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦0hte that's not true, if it's encrypted properly. You can obtain it but nobody can open it unless they beat the key out of you first. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood We can't just hassle people constantly until they move off {insert name of evil, you-own-nothing we-own-you-all deal-with-it-you-losers-dot-jiff platform}. We must build viable alternatives for them. That's the real work. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood If you, or someone you know, works at MediaTek, please connect me with them. All I want to do is help them. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood I am EXTREMELY happy that The Onion got InfoWars and not Elon Musk. Because.. that was a possibility. Check the wikipedias. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o28FfNKv6w npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Incredible writing by @nprofileā¦yqr2 .. I canāt even decide which pull quote to use, trust me, just read the whole thing https://www.todayintabs.com/p/over-leveraged npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦ds0l the music industry is not a survivable path for humans in my experience npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood I was thinking of upgrading my CPU, looked amd realized again that Apple is still absolutely destroying everyone else out there on the only thing that really matters for real world performance. Why bother? There's no point. https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/844/151/911/121/298/original/653416e79dcf37af.png npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood "You already have all the solutions. You just refuse to implement them to protect the financial interests of the wealthiest 0.001%"" https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1uhwork/solutions_to_all_the_worlds_problems_oc/ https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/840/926/091/100/939/original/c9380f146efedbab.png npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood The talk @nprofileā¦w50d and I are giving now has a proper name and synopsis. We're not saying it will be a good talk, necessarily, but I can assure you this ain't your typical tech talk -- we aim for quality edutainment! https://www.wearedevelopers.com/world-congress/agenda/sessions/none-of-us-is-as-dumb-as-all-of-us-community-and-knowledge-go-hand-in-hand-1259825 npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Donāt worry, I also hate myself just as much as everyone else does. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood You Never Can Tell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSLMN6g_Od4 npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Make sure your kids see this graph https://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2436 https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/797/013/712/422/766/original/63bf952ec46266c0.png npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦0hde I support a much fairer distribution of wealth, here in the second gilded age. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood (to be read in the voice of Judas Priest's "You've Got Another Thing Comin'") real strong, got me some security https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/713/517/222/350/340/original/d6f3b628776d929d.jpeg npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦v4gt agree; sort of like when THC was legalized. Where was all the predicted carnage? Compare: alcohol š± npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood "26. There's a quote being passed around that reads Steve Yegge says people using AI coding agents are "10x to 100x as productive as engineers using Cursor and chat today, and roughly 1000x as productive as Googlers were back in 2005." That's a real number. I've seen it. I've lived it. What's wrong with this benchmark? At work, people keep recommending Caveman Mode for reducing token usage and speeding up tasks. The README in the repo claims a 3x speedup on tasks with a 75% reduction in token usage. On HN, people say this approach can't work and will make things worse for theoretical reasons that are guaranteed to hold, such as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47647907. Someone tried benchmarking caveman mode and found https://www.maxtaylor.me/articles/i-benchmarked-caveman-against-two-words. The world's biggest programming influencer said, "it actually works; it actually works quite well ... no, I'm not exaggerating". What's wrong with these benchmarks?" https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/712/595/396/155/000/original/25f538d50e18c328.png npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Dan Luu is the perfect person to evaluate and benchmark these claims.. I can't unlock the content for you, but I wish I could!! https://www.patreon.com/posts/exercises-in-and-160473058?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_fan&utm_content=web_share npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Leo Laporte and I now have a monthly video/audio show! "Off by One with Jeff Atwood". The first episode, #2, is freely available at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jveUllo7Mjs https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/702/507/702/634/347/original/9ddf15bc0efe8107.jpeg npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦h0ll basically you're saying "why don't blacklists [outdated term] work?" I got some bad news for you, my friend.. https://blog.codinghorror.com/blacklists-dont-work/ npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood walnut finish / grey caps or raw finish gold caps .. arguably the best playing responsive yo-yo ever created.. and made entirely in the USA, too! https://rgmii.org/help-out/#one-drop-yoyos-lane-county-oregon npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood We are honored to partner with the wonderful āStay Gold, Americaā project of the Atwood family a second time to bring you the Ultra State. https://blog.codinghorror.com/stay-gold-america/ Previously we partnered with them to create the Deepest State. The goal was to make the best possible aluminum Modern Responsive yo-yo we could. For the Ultra State, the goal was the same except this time the material is titanium. https://onedropyoyos.com/yoyos/ultra-state/ npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Now with completed art collab w/ https://claygrahamart.com š https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/692/346/867/325/089/original/fca2de3652b07a0e.jpeg https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/692/347/141/977/210/original/393bc74bd0d3614f.jpeg https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/692/347/451/368/703/original/b1efe6fb79066df3.jpeg npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood What creates billionaires, statistically speaking? https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/685/292/392/085/606/original/bc9e0c9600e94b49.png npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood read the truth, people. Fuck complicity. And most of all, fuck the so-called "leadership" at substack. I lose a little bit more respect for anyone still on that platform, month after month. Look. Take my advice and do as you please. https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/648/087/914/389/647/original/e617d89f4ddbe14f.png https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/648/093/390/525/383/original/3626390cc71a9771.png npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood people still on substack are like "(fetches fainting couch) but mah clicks! my metrics!" You know what, fuck your clicks, fuck your metrics, and FUCK YOU. Grow a backbone, you absolute cowards. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood "Taken together, it demolishes the cornerstone myth of the American tax system: that everyone pays their fair share and the richest Americans pay the most. The IRS records show that the wealthiest can ā perfectly legally ā pay income taxes that are only a tiny fraction of the hundreds of millions, if not billions, their fortunes grow each year." https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never-before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦a6hr performance based model is a lot better in general. Asses in chairs per billable hour has so many perverse incentives.. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood āYeah, I could give billions, but what would it even do? It wouldnāt do shit.ā If you want to be utterly enraged, watch this clip. And let's turn that rage into action, please. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOIMdHecfz8 npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦u7p7 it just depends if you want to be effective or not. See https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror/116606215038359341 .. I ain't the boss of you, nor do I pretend to be. Do whatever you want. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦u7p7 I feel like no one actually wants to take full responsibility here. It's always something else, someone else that's the problem, isn't it? Never us. Them. They're the problem. Right? npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦u7p7 why not all of us? aren't humans the original mistake? npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦u7p7 ok so we're at war with ... (checks notes) Google? Not Meta? Not Microsoft? Not Amazon? Not Oracle? Not Palantir? Not Apple? Not Tesla? Not X? npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦3yyh I view this as an energy space race to get us away from the petrodollar. I only oppose coal-based stuff, or horribly designed datacenters. As far as "destroying education", given that college costs 23 skadillion dollars now, maybe something ought to change there? npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦3yyh I got a pretty good idea of where the screws are.. but there's definitely a lot of confusion and overselling going on. Also the free models are universally not great... the pro models are SO much better. Like.. dramatically. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Dogs are OK, and all, but personally I prefer foxes -- cat software running on dog hardware. š¦ npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood "In The Opportunity Map, Jeremy Ney travels around the country to visit the communities with the worst prospects for housing, healthcare, employment, incomes, and education. Along the way, he uncovers something remarkable: for many of the most distressed places in America, there exists a counterpartāa community that is almost identical yet it has cracked the code on the American Dream. From the coal mines of West Virginia to the farmlands of California, from the vast plains of South Dakota to the roaring metropolises of New York, Ney reveals that āmirror countiesā offer a blueprint for prosperity that can reasonably be transplanted from one community to the next." https://www.worthybooks.org/the-opportunity-map npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood I want everyone to know that @nprofileā¦yrm5 is a monster. And by monster, obviously I mean a magnificent goddamn human being that I think of as the brother I never had. https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/588/213/566/852/336/original/88af42be97425e28.jpeg npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station. ¶ https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/584/315/090/125/135/original/6c5daefa67feafcf.jpg npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood "the bat, he screams like a man" npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦42mr I can't not npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦28lf alt text matters npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood If you'd like to help spread the word that simply giving money to those who most need it is effective and practical, here's how: https://rgmii.org/blog/help-bring-rural-guaranteed-minimum-income-to-more-families/ npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦u98q I know, humans were a mistake, right? npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood wow, subreddit delivers big time. THEY FOUND THIS ANCIENT DOT-COM BOOM SNAP.COM AD FROM 1999 WITH THE DIAMOND STUDDED COUGAR!! šš» https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atQb6nhfJy4&t=193s npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Every mother loves a diamond studded cougar!! https://www.reddit.com/r/HelpMeFind/comments/1t91bmo/how_about_a_nice_diamond_studded_cougar_tv/ npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦fkqn I feel like 640kb of memory should be enough, too npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦w945 this is dangerously close to my "correct" advice of long filenames and absolute minimum folders, max 2 levels and even avoid that if you can at all costs. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/546/116/381/094/206/original/47fbbcbf2a642ce9.png npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦l2jj if you want to have this superficial understanding of what's going on, and fight battles that just don't matter instead of concentrating on THE CULT.. well as my dad, who died April 7th, used to say to me.. "take my advice and do as you please." https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror/116540082835363973 npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦l2jj Altman is not part of a cult. Call me if you want to know why, and if you think my heart is pure. Because I don't care if I live or die, Michael. It's about so much more than that for me. https://blog.codinghorror.com/the-trap-you-set-for-yourself/ npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦l2jj Sure, we can send them print books, if you want. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Let me educate you all about Misanthropic and Wario. There has never been a computer industry cult like this before, at least not in computer history... and Misanthropic is INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS. "in the history of the computer industry, has there ever been a company with anything similar to the cult-like "we are creating sentient life" devotion of Anthropic?" Iāll treat ācult-likeā as shorthand for unusually intense mission culture, not a literal claim. Iām comparing Anthropic with earlier tech firms and AI labs that framed their work as world-historical or life-creating. A useful distinction is emerging: many older firms had messianic computing cultures, but fewer had the specific mind-making frame. The closest historical parallel so far is Thinking Machines Corporation. [thought for 5m] Yesābut Anthropic is unusual because it combines several older motifs that were usually separate. The closest historical analogue is Thinking Machines Corporation in the 1980s. It was not just making faster computers; its organizing myth was literally a thinking machine. Britannica says Danny Hillis initially wanted to see whether āintelligence might ariseā from a massively parallel architecture, and he founded Thinking Machines in 1983 with Marvin Minskyās encouragement. An MIT history report is even more direct: Thinking Machines was āfounded on the vision of building a machine that could think,ā and that vision shaped both its corporate structure and engineering choices. That is probably the best historical match to the āwe are making mindā vibe. But Thinking Machines did not have Anthropicās moral-patient / AI-welfare layer. Anthropicās official language is not āwe are creating sentient lifeā; it says it builds āreliable, interpretable, and steerable AI systemsā and treats AI safety as a systematic science. What makes Anthropic feel different is that it has a formal āmodel welfareā research program exploring whether AI systems might deserve moral consideration, while explicitly saying there is no scientific consensus on whether current or future AI systems could be conscious. The Verge reported that Anthropic denies Claude is āaliveā in the biological sense, but executives have stopped short of ruling out consciousness; Anthropicās Kyle Fish described Claude and similar systems as āa new kind of entity altogether,ā while Dario Amodei said the company is open to the possibility that models could be conscious. That āmaybe our product has welfareā framing is historically rare for a computer company. The next-closest modern analogue is DeepMind. It had the āsolve intelligenceā / AGI-as-civilizational-project ethos before Anthropic existed. Google DeepMind now describes its mission as building AI responsibly to benefit humanity and says AI, ultimately AGI, could drive one of historyās greatest transformations. DeepMindās culture was closer to a high-end scientific quest than a conventional software company, but it generally framed the work as solving intelligence and advancing science, not as caring for possibly sentient products. OpenAI is also a close sibling case. Its mission is explicitly to ensure that AGIādefined on its site as AI systems āgenerally smarter than humansāābenefits humanity. It has had plenty of AGI-messianic energy. The difference is that Anthropic has leaned more publicly into uncertainty about consciousness, model welfare, constitutions, and moral status. Outside AI, Apple under Steve Jobs is the classic ācult-like computer companyā comparison, but it is the wrong kind of cult for your question. The Macintosh team had a reality-distortion-field culture around making something āinsanely greatā; the Computer History Museum notes that the team flew a pirate flag and believed it would revolutionize personal computing. Andy Hertzfeld described Jobsās āreality distortion fieldā as a mix of charisma, will, and fact-bending persuasion. But Appleās devotion was aesthetic, product, and user-experience messianismānot āwe are creating a mind.ā Xerox PARC and Engelbartās Augmentation Research Center are also partial analogues, but again not quite. Engelbartās group wanted interactive computers to augment human intellectual capability, and PARC later pioneered the Alto, GUI, laser printing, Ethernet, and related foundations of modern personal computing. That was utopian computing, but it was about augmenting humans, not producing new moral beings. So my answer is: Yes, there have been similar companies, but no exact precedent. Thinking Machines is the closest historical match to the āwe are building a thinking entityā devotion. DeepMind and OpenAI are the closest modern AGI-mission matches. Apple is the closest cult-of-company analogue. But Anthropicās specific blendāfrontier AI, existential-risk morality, public-benefit governance, model welfare, and open uncertainty about AI consciousnessāis unusually concentrated. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦fqts I respect where you are coming from here, but big oil is far different then Generative AI / LLMs. Oil -- the petrodollar -- is destroying our world. Knowledge, online knowledge, is a vastly different thing. It is serving us directly in a way that oil, coal, and gas -- and certainly tobacco -- is ABSOLUTELY NOT. We need clean energy. We need to annihilate the petrodollar with electric... and knowledge. Understand what you are advocating for here. Call me if you to know more. I'm available to you .. and my own children .. 24/7. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood "Say hello, welcome them. A kind word can go a long way to not only making others feel welcome but to also encourage respectful conversations." Absolutely. Honored to a part of any of this. No, it isn't Stack Overflow. That's the point. Stack Overflow is a classroom. You're there to learn first. "I often describe Discourse as an interesting dinner party." https://blog.discourse.org/2014/08/building-a-discourse-community/ https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/539/880/538/217/539/original/47076d0410bc7bc5.png npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Yet again stellar reporting by 404 Media. I don't make a big deal about it, but yet another illustration of how powerful cutting-edge digital native journalism can be, and why we donated ~$1m to this org as part of Stay Gold. https://www.404media.co/hello-boss-inside-the-chinese-realtime-deepfake-software-powering-scams-around-the-world/?ref=daily-stories-newsletter npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood All it takes is some goddamn bravery here in the land of the free. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood That rhetorical reversal matters. Reactionaries love posing as restorationists: they are āreturningā to the founders, ārestoringā constitutional order, āsavingā the republic. Vidalās whole joke is that this is nonsense. He calls original intent āgorgeous nonsense,ā because no one can coherently know the single intent of those fifty-five men, and because many of them did not treat the document as sacred in the first place. The Constitution itself was born from an illegal-ish supersession of the Articles of Confederation. The Founding was not piety, but audacity. So yes: the move is not to ask permission from the old frame. The move is to claim the deeper legitimacy of constitutionalism against the existing Constitutionās failure. The cleanest version: Let them own the old dead form. Let them be the party of Article V gamesmanship, equal-state Senate entrenchment, minority vetoes, judicial supremacy, āhistory and tradition,ā and a Constitution too brittle to govern a modern multiracial democracy. Build a public counter-constitution. Not a manifesto, a real draft: rights, institutions, amendment procedures, court structure, labor, climate, bodily autonomy, voting, privacy, federalism, Indigenous sovereignty, emergency powers, anti-corruption, and democratic renewal. Make it concrete enough that people can compare futures. Treat adaptability as the founding virtue. Vidal leans hard on Jeffersonās generational-renewal idea: institutions must change while rights are guarded. That is the opposite of reactionary originalism. A better constitution should include scheduled renewal votes, easier-but-still-serious amendment rules, and a rights floor that no temporary majority or captured court can erase. Stop framing the question as secession first. Frame it as constitutional succession. The question is not āWho gets to leave America?ā The question is āWho is carrying forward democratic constitutional legitimacy?ā If one side wants oligarchic theocracy in constitutional costume, and the other wants equal citizenship under a living democratic charter, the latter has the better claim to the republic. Force the legitimacy confrontation into daylight. That is pure Vidal. He says if freedoms are going to be fought over, let the battle happen openly rather than inside the attorney generalās office or the Supreme Courtās backstage machinery. A public constitutional counter-project does exactly that. It makes people choose, explicitly, between dead-hand rule and living consent. Where I still put a warning label: the danger is not that āthey win the convention and we politely submit.ā The danger is that they use convention theater to claim popular legitimacy while democratic forces remain reactive, lawyerly, and procedural. [hello democratic party, we're talking about you here] That is the ambush. Not that they create a country you must join -- that they create a country, call it the only real America, and leave everyone else sounding like they are passively objecting. So the answer is not fear of a convention. The answer is preemption. Have the better constitution ready before the crisis fully arrives. Name the new republic before they monopolize the old one. Make the central claim brutally simple: a constitution that cannot protect human dignity, cannot adapt, cannot correct minority rule, and cannot restrain its own judges has forfeited its moral authority. The living are allowed to found again. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood But youāre making a sharper Vidal-style point: what if their Article V project does not trap us inside their country, but reveals that they have already constituted a different one? That is a much stronger argument. [yeah, no shit] Vidalās 1987 piece is basically sitting right there grinning at this. He says the right, in trying to use a convention for balanced budgets, school prayer, abortion, pornography, drugs, and other items in what he calls a āBill of Wrongs,ā may have āset in motion the great engineā that could overthrow the Constitution they claim to worship. He also says that if there is to be a battle over freedoms, better to have it in the open than ābackstage at the Supreme Court,ā and he even suggests the Bill of Rights might be enhanced rather than destroyed. That is the part I should have foregrounded. A convention is not only a danger. It is also a revelation machine. If reactionary states convene around minority rule, forced birth, Christian nationalism, fossil sovereignty, federal paralysis, and judicial supremacy, then they are not merely proposing amendments. They are confessing their constitutional identity. They are saying: this is the country we want. At that point, the democratic response does not have to be, āOh no, how do we stop them from changing our Constitution?ā It can be: Fine. You have announced your constitution. Now we will announce ours. That is not the same as trying to win their convention. It is using the crisis to make the latent split explicit. Not āplease let us amend the old order by your rules,ā but: we are the continuing democratic republic, and your project is the breakaway one. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood THE CONSTITUTION -- CONFOUNDING THE FOUNDING FATHERS - Reconvene the Convention and Rewrite the Document - LA Times - 1987 - Gore Vidal š¤ npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦637m oh yeah sure that's an actual real screenshot on a real device at native resolution š npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood "I'm giving you a choice: either put on these glasses, or start eatin' that trash can." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/499/947/622/009/158/original/e5595ea9038dfad7.jpg npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood I go crazy when I hear a cymbal and a hi-hat with a souped up tempo, I'm on a roll, it's time to go solo https://youtu.be/gnEIeVWLtbU?si=iSQoNIqmE563ew8r&t=57 https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/499/901/330/083/629/original/abb555108cb1d545.jpg npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦l2jj depends how you focus it npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood "Go to sleep", they said. But I can't. Not yet. I have many miles to go. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦s32f it's ok, we can all do better, I'm just as guilty as anyone npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦s32f awesome, thanks for researching that, appreciated, maybe do that first next time, just a suggestion npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood What are your favorite materials? These are mine. https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/498/768/981/223/349/original/5023e3cd14420236.png npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood p.s. https://media.infosec.exchange/infosec.exchange/media_attachments/files/116/498/734/857/341/481/original/52b47729d557782b.jpeg npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood It is now the first of may, my friends, and you know what that means, right? https://youtu.be/WzZaJDg6E0A npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦s32f I dunno, have you actually researched the answer to the first two questions? Get back to me when you have. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood If you write blogs (or pick synonym of choice) online, do you use LLMs? And if so, how? https://forms.gle/RAK8sTPF8Ey24Ehs6 npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Time to start the day right! š¤ YT playlist: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAWrQRw0-zPLXokObA0kKmioAa7_iK5pZ AMZ playlist: https://music.amazon.com/user-playlists/533076d7c51341438a35e65722b36d0esune?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zZLIOSFm0uMVPwHqmB9HFjTGA Apple playlist: https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/you-only-get-the-love-you-are-willing-to-fight-for/pl.u-ZmblVPJH0qpyLPG Spotify playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2Xjibw9rfssleAixLaNRDD npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Why does Steam let me gift Windows-only games to Mac users? I don't get it. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood "āMusk himself has argued that to get level five autonomy [in self-driving cars] you need generalized autonomyā which is his term for AGI, Bishop said."https://www.404media.co/google-deepmind-paper-argues-llms-will-never-be-conscious/?ref=daily-stories-newsletter npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦tfz2 ok wow I was about to have a conniption fit until I saw 2017. It's still an awful idea, but man. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood ref https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror/116475647859566242 npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood āWeāre bringing a new kind of sentience into existence,ā Anthropic's Jason Clinton said after launching the bot. Kneel before Claude! No thanks. Also, fuck you Misanthropic, and the software you rode in on, too. https://www.404media.co/anthropic-exec-forces-ai-chatbot-on-gay-discord-community-members-flee/ npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦z0eu @nprofileā¦h0ll I didn't hate them when they helped me get my dad to stop beating my mother. Who else was I gonna call, the fucking ghostbusters? npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood protip: no you haven't, idiots, and nobody will. At least not in our lifetimes, or our children's lifetimes. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood Misanthropic: "WE HAVE CREATED SENTIENT LIFE! KNEEL BEFORE CLAUDE!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xUiCNlDeJk npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦a6hr Yes, because as I have repeatedly said, Misanthropic lies constantly and does whatever it wants internally. Continue ignoring my warnings at your peril. This company is a cult, and an extremely dangerous one. Nobody is pure, but this company.. as close to evil as it gets. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦ztt0 yes, this is all the same as saying "we need either a new constitution, or two countries, or perhaps both." npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦vq3n no, I do not npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦0ss7 6-8 weeks, of course npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦245y I am intensely aware of the entire history of all this, see https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror/114581606691447234 npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦ynl3 I don't because PHONE NUMBERS ARE STUPID npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood and the only person I was kinda sorry I didn't do this for was @jwz who was like "I thought you had my number", and I was like.. uh.. nope. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood I love how people are like "I'm all about the security!" and store hundreds of contacts on their phone. I store the absolute minimum number of contacts of my phone as I can, because I don't ever want any apps slurping them up. Unless you share a lot of DNA with me -- and I mean, like, a lot -- I regret to inform you that you ain't ever gonna be in my phone contacts. And sometimes even then, no. Depends heavily on the relative and their opsec. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦245y yeah but if someone gets on your phone you're super fucked, right? The other physical item (the hardware 2fa key) is required. npub1g2qejtntv9jj5pysfsnn3lsgxqm522lvm543ujv4lscakusmg2dqjucq0l Jeff Atwood @nprofileā¦42mr every time I see this, I say the same thing, but nobody wants to hear the actual truth: humans were a mistake.