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David King

agreed that names are just conventions. that’s why we could have such a thing. we just need a good idea that enough people agree to that it becomes useful enough
name squatting is a good issue to consider. i was assuming claiming names could be done by some sort of market mechanism. not sure the specifics, but maybe its “first come”, but involves some sort of staking of btc

2024-06-19 02:07:19

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i thought runes was for fungible tokens on bitcoin? a namespace would be for non-fungible names

2024-06-19 00:56:59

who needs design advice?
#note1wpy…fx3k

2024-06-18 22:49:32

what are the best proposals for creating a global namespace with no issuer?

2024-06-18 20:19:23

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i’m interested to learn more about this type of censorship. can you share specific examples I can read about?

2024-06-18 11:21:13

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i’m talking application layer stuff to be clear. just trying to build functionality that bitcoin doesn’t support

2024-06-18 00:48:01

this should happen!
#note1g57…0rnw

2024-06-17 19:06:05

stablecoins may strengthen demand for USD as Paul Ryan said, but they do so at the expense of your ability to control capital flows
just sayin…

2024-06-17 06:27:53

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we could have a client that mutes that type of behavior?

2024-06-17 00:20:57

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top 1% dog life 🤙

2024-06-16 05:12:41

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yea, this is cool! thx for sharing

2024-06-16 03:47:03

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I’d take ‘em all for $0.02
and so it goes…

2024-06-16 03:45:08

my nostr note writing as visualized by flycat!
#nevent1q…ytq7
https://image.nostr.build/7b43766117ef175c87821d14181ea94b59a18b4ad91eaf8e1ca2e7a8b24dc843.png

2024-06-16 02:35:08

has anyone made a “github contributions”-like visualization for nostr note writing?
🤔
https://m.primal.net/ImOY.jpg

2024-06-15 05:54:17

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😭😭
lotta people visit! 😉

2024-06-15 05:49:00

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have you tried Bitkey? hardware gives Apple vibes

2024-06-14 03:15:44

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to me the namespace seems the toughest thing to find a credible path for decentralizing over time. was that core to your centralization concerns or were there other large categories of problems?
I’m not well-versed on the FarCaster architecture, fwiw, just a long-time casual observer of the project

2024-06-13 22:18:58

If you’re just learning about https://wikifreedia.xyz it’s good to start with the structure as described by @npub1l2v…ajft
“Anyone can edit
Anyone can fork
There is no canonical entry for any topic
Use WoT to make sense of it”
Wikipedia: find consensus among a small group of admins on a neutral-point-of-view of “the facts” about a subject
Wikifreedia: everyone shares their point of view about a subject assembled around a hub for easier evaluation by the reader
wikipedia used to seem bottoms-up/internet-native compared to Encyclopedia Britannica, but given the complexity of the world and the nuance required to learn about any subject we need something new

2024-06-13 20:24:04

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never mind so you answered already 🙏
@note13g9hg7nkafqsljfjmtqxks4cy4fdm4xquu6g8hpxyc8duqpkq4tsv72a28

2024-06-13 20:20:38

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do you do it today on chat/email/listserv/reddit/twitter or IRL?

2024-06-13 20:19:43

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working on it daily

2024-06-13 19:51:40

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great philosophy: form opinions, but be willing to change over time

2024-06-13 19:49:39

my main motivation in life is just that I want to know the truth

2024-06-13 19:48:23

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Cool, I’ll catch up on this, Car, thanks!

2024-06-13 19:47:53

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Thanks, I’m following both of them now, too.
I’ve always had the assumption that a payment for a good/service always has counter-party risk with whoever you’re exchanging with.
So I would never consider eCash self-custodial, but I’ve always thought of it more like a simplified UX involving an additional party for an already somewhat risky transaction.
You could give me 10,000 sats from cold storage and I might still run away with the coffee we had agreed I’d hand over in exchange.

2024-06-13 19:37:46

when I first came here I thought “nostranaut” would make the most sense, but “nostrich” has grown on me

2024-06-13 19:31:23

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“don’t worry ‘bout the mess, listen to the message”
he belongs on nostr

2024-06-13 19:29:44

I noticed “E-cash disrespectoor” in your bio @npub1cps…8j5e
I’m still trying to form an opinion. I had a call with someone yesterday who shared some skepticism on eCash with me. Can you tell me more about your view?

2024-06-13 19:26:47

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I actually love the simplicity. Seems like it might be a simple onboarding to the something like the @npub1w0r…cu4x experience? @npub1l2v…ajft have you played with this kind of idea?

2024-06-13 19:25:40

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how do you gather with your community to discuss papers?

2024-06-13 19:23:23

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I always read MSM as an insult, tbh :P
“Independent voices” are my fav even if they’ve amassed a bigger audience

2024-06-13 19:20:50

I would love to use a project like this. Anyone working on it yet? #note1435…7etn

2024-06-13 17:39:56

They never noticed nostr enough to try it. How should we reach these communities?
Would a subreddit-like structure help everyone gather?
https://image.nostr.build/dcc7536d2ea432489e11b81e2435f09096000bba4edd3fd8d900904cc0acf9c8.png

2024-06-12 20:08:38

Just a reminder… if you want to find more people to follow on nostr, one of the best ways right now is to visit the “following” list from the profile of someone who’s taste you generally trust.
I just followed everyone @npub1ug8…d9ry is following. It’s a modest number, but pretty well curated. I don’t know if he endorses everyone on it, fwiw, but it’s a good starter list for anyone new to nostr. You can always try it and unfollow anyone who is noisy or doesn’t fit your interest/taste.
You can check my “following” list, too, but I’m prob more experimental/liberal with my choice to follow people.
an algorithm could help us make this kind of thing less tedious

2024-06-12 19:07:01

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Oh cool… guessing those filters should make it to the mobile app, too? I would use them a lot.
cc @npub16c0…6nvr

2024-06-12 18:12:58

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how do you do anon zaps?

2024-06-12 17:53:54

Who am I not following yet who has been zapped by people I am following/have zapped?
algorithms can be built to serve people instead of corporations

2024-06-12 06:21:03

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any question is fine. i was thinking it’d be nice to have a way to gather a bunch of people all interested in a person/topic and be able to fire away questions and have the result all organized for future readers. this is popular on Reddit/StackerNews and i thought it would be nice to have something like that on nostr

2024-06-12 01:59:14

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🫡

2024-06-12 01:39:24

Has anyone successfully run AMAs on Nostr?
What has worked or not worked?

2024-06-12 01:18:38

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I like that. Memes lead the way

2024-06-11 23:05:43

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i’ll play a piano cover of something if you’ve got requests to support you in solidarity 😅

2024-06-11 23:05:06

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do you preform these days? make a video for nostr to practice with an audience!

2024-06-11 23:04:26

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love these kinds of stories 💜

2024-06-11 23:03:41

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love this!

2024-06-11 22:58:13

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also, some groups have a bit of publishing feel to them, especially the larger they are

2024-06-11 22:57:14

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what the heck! how did that happen?

2024-06-11 22:54:21

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i liked the concept of serving groups on nostr the way you originally articulated it. i think groups are great because they’re easy to get connected and see the right people/ideas to match your interest. much easier than with open publishing/feeds. maybe a good way to gather people before letting them loose into the wild open 😉
coracle has always been a feed system, too, right? have you considered moving away from feeds and just focusing the whole experience of Coracle on groups?
seems very differentiated and useful to me

2024-06-11 22:14:39

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i like the topic selection followed by follow suggestion. haven’t seen other apps that do this yet, but absent any data my best guess would be that this is effective.
i thjnk i understand that groups is more the focus of coracle than feeds. how do these recommendations play into groups?

2024-06-11 22:03:47

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do you suspect that generally works well enough right now or is there lore we could think of to improve?

2024-06-11 22:00:31

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circular economy! ⭕️

2024-06-11 21:55:49

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i was just capturing the Coracle onboarding flows to share as part of my onboarding research. have you tweaked anything there recently? do you expect people onboard and figure out what to do alright?

2024-06-11 21:51:33

when a new person signs up for nostr, what do you think they are expecting to find?

2024-06-11 20:31:24

“come for the X, stay for the censorship-resistant social media”
solve for X

2024-06-10 23:45:54

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if you know the feedback is about a specific nostr client then tag in the client developer in a public note
if you have feedback on a more general protocol issue try engaging on the github or tag relevant protocol devs here (review the NIPs and you should be able to figure out who it might be good to connect with)
if you really can’t tell where something should go complain to me here and i’ll try to route it to a helpful person

2024-06-10 18:35:37

which client in nostr has the best onboarding experience?
in traditional centralized social networks there is a tremendous amount of effort given to helping users onboard well (get connected, setup profile, learn how it works, etc.) and have a great first time user experience. there are often dedicated teams working on constantly measuring and improving “FTUX”
the reason for all this effort is that it has a huge impact on user retention
nostr doesn’t do this and consequently has very weak retention

2024-06-10 17:39:47

you are a product tester here on nostr. don’t assume you’re doing something wrong just because an app isn’t working as you expect. document issues you’re having and share with the developers. even just tag developers in a note to ask questions.
#note1ukp…yfsg

2024-06-10 04:39:08

normalize zapping hard
👇
@npub18l3…za55

2024-06-08 23:14:23

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what are the most important but currently underserved initiatives needed to make nostr a success?

2024-06-07 16:21:33

Artists opting out of generative-AI-focused platforms like Instagram are choosing Cara
"Cara has grown from 40,000 to 650,000 users within the last week"
Can nostr help?
“Building a product is a bit like making art,” she said. “I think you just make something that you like as a person, and know not everyone will love it. But some people who have the same point of view, they would, and then you can grow your community from there.”
https://image.nostr.build/dcf63c89261778bf8b8f999d69a9844b6fbac033bb657f2d244b34cd5430ddc2.jpg
cc @nprofile…jjrg

2024-06-07 02:07:50

is craig wright claiming to be fiatjaf today, too?

2024-06-07 01:36:08

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damn, just realizing I got punk’d. But I stand by it! 🫡

2024-06-07 01:33:17

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I’ll start by saying “thank you” to you because without nostr we wouldn’t have the freedom/ability to run such experiments.
I agree that a bunch of people will revert to dopamine, social bubbles, and phone-zombie behavior like you suggest if given an easy glide path. But I wonder, who will build/optimize those algorithms? If developers are not incentivized by being coupled to an ad serving platform maybe we’ll see different results — maybe we’ll get some of the same, but we could also get a lot of wild experimentation that turns out to discover other things people want.
I suspect we could see different algorithms at different points in a user lifecycle/journey. One algo to onboard new users to their first few follows/connections. Maybe a new interface that lets people preview content before selecting who to follow. Maybe there should be a lot more “for you” content driven by notes and following suggestions should be a side-effect of which notes you react/zap from people you aren’t yet following. There’s just so much greenfield to explore and nostr makes this possible. Corporate controlled algos will all trend toward serving the corporation’s goals, but open/transparent/switchable/pluggable algorithms can be built to serve end-user goals which will almost certainly be different since no one’s primary goal in life is to view an ad.
I think “proof of work” on finding the good people/content is fine for now — slightly annoying, but not devastating. We put in the effort. Though we miss so many valuable ideas/connections this way.
But I believe nostr has the right architecture to serve most publishing needs on the Internet and create a whole new layer of what is “the web”. I would estimate there are at least 1B+ public messages shared on the Internet each day. There’s not enough time in my day (no matter how committed I am to “doing the work”) to filter them all for the stuff I care about or might like to see. I need computational help (i.e. an algorithm) to do this properly. What great people/ideas/relationships could come into my life if only there were a way to match us with the right context?
Open protocols rule. Thanks for making nostr, man!

2024-06-06 17:59:59

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end user algorithm choice will lead to very different results. we’ve never seen it.

2024-06-06 17:13:42

this has become my favorite page on Primal
https://m.primal.net/IatD.png

2024-06-06 04:53:25

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blue is my truth, red is my excuse

2024-06-06 04:49:24

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straight into content is the way! 🫡
psyched to see this roll

2024-06-06 04:42:23

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great concept! Looks clean/simple/pro.
It seems like this could be especially useful for visual content and might be a nice interface to help with people/content discovery.
Would onboarding have you select people to follow or would the app just start sharing content in this swipe interface?
I assume no zaps (for now)?

2024-06-06 02:08:01

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welcome! have you setup a lightning wallet yet? i would like to be the first to zap you

2024-06-06 00:37:49

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where’s your first travel spot?

2024-06-05 20:38:15

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even nicer to see avatars. not available in the CLI PoC
https://m.primal.net/IZsj.jpg

2024-06-05 20:35:54

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love it!
is zap.store signing a kind of interim step to establish trust until developers are setup to sign their own binaries?
https://m.primal.net/IZsd.png

2024-06-05 19:16:36

via @npub1der…xzpc
https://m.primal.net/IZpK.png

2024-06-05 19:11:10

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so it’s based on people following an npub of an account associated with the download? does it require the binary is signed by the corresponding nsec?
would be nice if there were a stronger endorsement scheme representing something like “i’ve downloaded and endorse this binary”

2024-06-05 18:41:40

if watching a puppy learn to swim in an alpine lake isn’t your kind of thing you’ll want to skip this video
#dogstr
https://m.primal.net/IZnT.mov

2024-06-05 17:36:00

future of education
https://m.primal.net/IZka.mov

2024-06-05 17:07:24

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What do you think is the best hope for achieving P2P privacy?

2024-06-05 17:06:38

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I’m interested to hear your reasoning, too

2024-06-05 16:59:39

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Sounds like an easy problem to solve. Just get the N-G’ing-U again! 😝

2024-06-05 16:57:48

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gerontocracy

2024-06-05 16:55:06

Which is more important for bitcoin?
1) Monetary properties
2) Social consensus

2024-06-05 16:44:55

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What are some of the most memorable stories you heard outside of nostr/bitcoin?

2024-06-05 16:38:23

Ok, this is the best/simplest demo of Web-of-Trust I’ve seen. All software/information should work like this. #note15xt…rm4f

2024-06-05 16:37:13

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What use-cases/value props worked in the past?
I suspect USD inflation/absolute scarcity will become a more obvious reason to many people in the coming years

2024-06-05 01:59:39

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are there good prototypes of software projects to play with here yet?

2024-06-05 01:13:52

I was just on a call with someone new to nostr. He’s just beginning to research and understand how it all works. He asked me about what I’m most interested in at the frontier of nostr today. Here’s the list I ran off the top of my head. What else should I be learning about and playing with?
1. long form notes
2. open/transparent algorithms
3. a commons for open source data storage/sharing (e.g. as used by ecash mints)
4. blossom

2024-06-04 22:48:11

“this little ’nostr bear market’ is adorable” -@npub16c0…6nvr

2024-06-04 21:24:15

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the beauty here is the same data can be used in infinitely different ways supporting different ideologies/beliefs or as neutral as you want (i.e., “show me everything”)
It would only be a problem if they controlled nostr which obviously they don’t

2024-06-04 01:36:14

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Is the intention that a lot of people would run these as a companion/helper for relays?

2024-06-04 01:15:18

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What are Bitcoin timepieces? Are they like block clocks?

2024-06-04 01:14:43

If you’re new here… share an #introduction like this so we know who you are and can follow-up with questions #note1hp5…2075

2024-06-04 01:01:25

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aren’t art generation tools just a new part of the artists toolkit?

2024-06-04 00:50:12

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I think you can be a bitcoiner and be open to considering various forms of freedom both financial and otherwise.
e.g. a lot of bitcoiners are talking about ecash and various forms of stablecoins/stablecash these days. I even know hardcore bitcoiners who are developing stablecoin solutions that touch alternative L1s. this kind of stuff seems to more commonly discussed in private
I think there were fewer lanes of opinions considered reasonable pre-internet. There are vastly more lanes that people will express now. That opens up to better discovery of fundamental truths we may have missed before.
There’s more tribalism online now than there was pre-bitcoin. The online platforms were much less algorithmically driven pre-bitcoin. I think that’s the biggest change.

2024-06-03 23:41:18

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agree things are more fungible when new. I guess I see bitcoin as still in that new/chaotic/pre-establishment phase so I’m expecting a lot more culture/change before we’ve seen ossified culture around it.

2024-06-03 23:02:37

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oh we got that! 🤪

2024-06-03 23:01:53

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unfortunately, prob makes sense. What do you think nostr needs to be the kind of place that would be worth recommending to them? Diff apps, diff creators/content, diff filter/discovery mechanisms or just kinda “know it when I see it”?

2024-06-03 23:00:41

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Yeah, preachy-ness can border on “thought police” and the whole thing should be about freedom to think independently

2024-06-03 22:59:29

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also, bitcoin dogma was not always this way and certainly won’t be forever in the future this way. Just a moment in time kinda thing rn.