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You may be right about that. I think, from my perspective, the Orthodox and Catholic are the same thing - I know that really pisses people off - and that the distinctions are not historically important because the expression of the Christian faith is polyvalent: mystics and rationalists, different ways of managing the culture. Excluding Protestants, of course.
We share an unbroken line descending from the Apostles, core doctrinal teachings (with notable exceptions), the Real Presence, and all the other important things. I'd give up the filioque and consider the Pope just the first among equals tomorrow if it would get the One Church breathing with both lungs again.
For me, it was a simple observation that, as a Western man, the Western Church was home. If I'd have been in eastern Europe or a descendant of Greeks or Russians, I might have been thinking differently.

2024-09-05 13:40:26 GMT

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sexy vampire?

2024-09-04 23:47:22 GMT

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Yeah. But the idea that no bibles in homes in the fifth century caused the Dark Ages is just batshit crazy. Not least because the Dark Ages is Protestant bullshit (sorry, James)

2024-09-04 23:35:58 GMT

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Honestly - how?
https://i.poastcdn.org/d1ea1fb3c4adb8078d05581d429f062a3a74025edd3f387750125e51c5dcc932.jpeg

2024-09-04 23:31:17 GMT

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It's just one of those things, guys. It happens, ok? The abdomen is a very crowded place

2024-08-30 16:49:21 GMT

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Why the literal fuck would a school built for the purpose of educating the children and grandchildren of the people who built it give a single fuck about you, some nominally Catholic kid who comes from a family that never gave a dime to support the parish?
'Cause your scores were good? lol. Happy to hear you were seething for so long about it.

2024-08-30 15:53:42 GMT

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sure, you just never supported the parish and expected a spot at their school

2024-08-30 11:50:13 GMT

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You were talking about using the school that a couple generations of Catholic families had built for the purpose of educating their children. It turns out the school is good, and others want to use it, too. That's ok, I guess, but priority obviously ought to go to families in the parish.
Not sure why this is so controversial for you.

2024-08-30 01:55:39 GMT

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Well, you. Your family never bothered to support the parish, right? Or is there some critical fact I missed?

2024-08-29 21:31:43 GMT

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I have to support that approach. Why should they be giving top-tier education away to some outsider just because he scores well?

2024-08-18 11:40:33 GMT

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Literally every single Christian believed otherwise for 1,500 years, but you've got it figured out.
So fucking tiresome.

2024-08-17 23:57:30 GMT

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Because a) the corruption of which you speak Protestantly is common to that species known as human beings and, 2) the interpretation of which you interpret Protestantly is contested, and 3) you don't lose the favor ot he Lord for being a sinner, you lose it for apostasy or refusal to worship Him properly (jews)
Speaking of which, are you worshiping properly, in the form of offering the Eucharistic sacrifice, as ordered and as is the ancient practice of the Church?
Before we continue: please post the Nicene Creed.

2024-08-17 21:54:47 GMT

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Of course I've read Revelation and let me just say that I find every Evangelical reading of it to be very suspect. Extremely suspect.
But so what. The jews didn't lose the mandate of heaven because they were sinners, they lost it because they rejected Jesus Christ. Simple as.
And anything claiming to be a Christian church that does not have a valid Eucharist is playing the same game. There is no worship without a sacrifice - never in the history of mankind has such a concept existed. But you guys are trying it. Good luck with it.

2024-08-17 21:42:56 GMT

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What are you even talking about? Christians are sinners, in case you haven't noticed, and the idea that someone is no longer a Christian because they are a sinner - or that a church is no longer a church because it's filled with sinners - is just nonsense.

2024-08-17 21:31:31 GMT

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Because the doctrine is right and the Eucharist is valid.
American Protestants think they don't need the Mass, but they do. And they think they will get Real Christians in their new religions, but keep finding real Christians don't exist. Or maybe they do exist, but they are all sinners, except for the new splinter cell of real Christians who will form a real living church.
It's all so tiresome.

2024-08-17 20:58:56 GMT

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Yeah, well, that doesn't mean every person's home just did what they wanted, see?
Anyway, the Catholics are about as corrupt and degenerate as the Protestant churches who reacted to the corruption and degeneracy, as your struggle to find a "living church" would suggest. Except with them, you get all the corruption and degeneracy but no valid Eucharist.
But you could always go Orthodox if the specter of popery haunted you so much.

2024-08-17 20:35:40 GMT

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I told you you didn't want my opinion.
I used to work with a chick who told mer her husband - from Mississippi - took her to his dad's church. Which was literally in his dad's house, except the old man had passed away the year earlier and the service was a cassette recording of this dead guy playing to the family and a couple people in the living room.
Guess he was just looking for a living church, too. Have fun. You might want to make video of your sermons so your family can carry on the true faith.

2024-08-17 20:28:58 GMT

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You don't want my advice, but you say you do.
For a church to be alive, it has to have a valid Eucharistic celebration, produced by priests validly appointed in an unbroken line to the Apostles and practiced the way it was practiced since the beginning. That leaves exactly two choices: Catholic and Orthodox.
Everything else is larping bullshit.

2024-08-17 18:01:25 GMT

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It's frustrating.
> Hey! Don't divide the Body of Christ, dude! And by the way, the fissiparousness and sloth associated with that is related to the sloth and indifference we see among Christians when it comes to defending their culture.
> Oh yeah? Well, what am I supposed to do then?
> Dunno? Not that thing I said not to do? Something else, I guess?

2024-08-17 11:54:44 GMT

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Well, your solution seems to be that you'd establish your own church in your basement, along with your family and some friends. Or, if you wouldn't do that, exactly, it would be a thing that you might legitimately do.
And the point I have been trying to make - and the point you seem to agree with, without knowing it - is that the attitude making you disinclined to defend your religious community is the same attitude making Christians disinclined to defend their secular communities.
I'll just start my own church, find a better church, move to a different neighborhood, voat harder, send a donation to Trump, whatever, whatever, whatever. It's the same vice, and that vice is sloth - the indifference to performing some duty you must perform. And it turns out, you have a duty to fight for what is yours.
You ask what one should do when the Spirit leaves a church, and you answer: you abandon it. But then you ask what one should do when that same Spirit leave a nation, and you are shocked when other Christians answer: you abandon it. If you can't see that it's the same animating principle...

2024-08-16 23:56:50 GMT

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As. Opposed. To. Maybe. Not. Being. An. Atomized. Individual?
Does that help clarify?

2024-08-16 22:41:16 GMT

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As opposed to maybe not being an atomized individual?
Someone said something about how the Body of Christ should not be divided, yet here you are blithely suggesting to divide the hell out of it, down to the household level.
And then you turn around and wonder where the Christians are, if they are not defending the community against threats. Meanwhile, you abandon your community and refuse to defend it against threats, preferring instead to withdraw. The problem with Christians is you.

2024-08-16 20:50:03 GMT

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This is a very American Protestant concept. I would simply point out that it is the very essence of atomistic individualism to think this way, and that among all our enemies, atomistic individualism is about the biggest enemy we have.

2024-08-16 16:06:18 GMT

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Puritans had all kinds of stories, but outside New England, the colonization wave had little to do with such ideas.
And, again, the point is that Christendom lost a sequence of bloody wars, which is why the political results of Christendom - defense of the culture, suppression of heretics like trannies and demon worshipers, removal of dangerous and subversive invaders like jews and Muslims - cannot be expected.
Only a moron imagines the tree will flower when its roots are cut. You seem to think otherwise.

2024-08-16 13:09:51 GMT

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Oh. Yes. You're repeating that story you were told in school about the search for religious freedom leading men of conscience to brave the seas and establish a new nation. That's charming.
But the point is that one can't really complain that Christendom isn't doing Christendom things when Christendom lost a long and bloody war to... well, to the people who wanted things to be exactly as they are now.

2024-08-16 11:37:22 GMT

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You talk like someone who hasn't read anything about he last 500 years. Where is the Church?
Drowned in the Loire by the French. Hanged, drawn, and quartered by Henry, Elizabeth, and Cromwell. Skinned alive, then shot by the Mexicans. Crucified, or exhumed and displayed in public by the Spanish Republicans. Reduced by violence to a couple square miles in Rome by the Italians. Purposely removed from the public conversation by the cunts who wrote the American Constitution.
All this murder for centuries and you wonder why there is no Bernard of Clairvaux riling up a Crusade, or Simon de Montfort expelling the trannies, or Templars slaughtering invaders at Las Navas de Tolosa, or Edward expelling the shapeshifters from the realm.
The roots of the tree are cut, why no flowers?
Men with guns have been winning a murderous war against the ability of the Church to do anything at all in the secular world, but you wonder what is wrong with the Christians.