tetricky

"The football world watched in awe"?
You must be thinking of the arsenal defence and their hundred million DM, as Taiwo and Anthony tore past them.
I felt sorry for them. They had to have a sit down, and try to work out what had just happened to them.
They've got no chance in Europe, at least not unless it's got a lot easier since we last won the big cup.
Youuuuu reeeedddds!
Rhythm is a dancer, Anthony Elanga.
Taiwo, Taiwo, Taiwo....

2023-08-08 00:50:53

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There's plenty of that. I would argue it's the root of the problem, not the solution.
I always think that people should be on the receiving end of what they propose, to understand the value of tolerance and support from others.
It seems harsh to wish fascism on you, but I won't lose any sleep over it, given that you started it.

2023-08-08 00:43:35

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I assume that you are not giving every word the importance that it deserves, because you are too busy frothing at the mouth to discuss it rationally, or don't really care.
It's harder to get guns in Japan. In Japan fewer children are killed with guns in school per capita.
That's the crucial impact of 'easier'.
Absolutism and false equivalence shows an unwillingness to engage honestly and find common ground. Which at least goes some way to explaining why you don't want to contribute to making a fair and free society.
If you can't scrutinise and hold your reoresentatives to the values mandated democratically by your society, there is no chance that you are going to constrain armed individuals to reasonable social behavior.
It would seem to me that you should work on that, not the rights of the criminal or unstable to easy access to guns in order to exercise their whim to kill people.
I suppose that we are all different though.

2023-08-08 00:30:17

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What's your superior plan?

2023-08-07 12:16:51

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Those who are anti-social. Those undermining the collective ability of a society to it's own self determination, and setting it's values, freedoms, and providing of services and infrastructure to make it stronger and provide greater opportunity to it's members.

2023-08-07 12:13:10

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Nobody is saying no guns. I am saying reasonable gun controls so that nutters can't kill a lot of people easily.

2023-08-07 12:11:40

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Having a gun wont fix that, but you might be a bit less worried about your kids at school.

2023-08-07 08:14:03

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This is where tolerance, and a desire to actually form social groups for everyones benefit, comes in.
Those who other groups like immigrants (we basically all are immigrants), are intentionally destroying our society so that we are too divided to stop them taking advantage of us.
A gun won't fix that. We are going to have to help each other to be smarter, and respond collectively.

2023-08-07 08:06:53

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Well I strongly suggest that we try harder to make it work. Because you are not going to be able to kill everyone that comes to take your stuff.
If that doesn't work, try harder still.

2023-08-07 02:11:36

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That's exactly why we do it together. Help each other. The one thing we can all absolutely guarantee is that we are wrong about something. Of course we don't think so. It's why we believe what we believe.
That's why society is so valuable. Power of juggernaught numbers, coupled with consensus judgement to reduce mistakes.
Don't give up on it, try to do it better.

2023-08-06 23:56:13

#EPL #football #soccer
Only two EFL games took less than 100 minutes this weekend.
If the players and officials are going to piss about so much, they should give up their half-time and just change ends and keep going. Fans have transport connections to make, and dinner engagements to keep. Selfish twats.
I wouldn't mind...but it's not like they even play 90 minutes as it is. The players keep sitting down, and the ref keeps chatting to their mates in the cupboard, and watching the telly.
The lot of them need a rocket up their arse.

2023-08-06 22:51:50

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It's possible. But it requires the people to lose vigilance, to not care, and to fail to act fairly and tolerantly with a cohesive social commitment to each other.
History is littered with the many asserting their values over the few. The trick is not to let them divide us with self interest. Of course those who do not have your best interests at heart, will spend a lot of money and effort to persuade you that they are the only choice, and that 'they' are all the same.
They are not, and if they are change them.

2023-08-06 19:45:15

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You think that's slippery..... try to get a capitalist to explain when to let the market decide. :-)

2023-08-06 19:18:23

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Don't know what I'm doing. Only just joined nostr, for the socials. :-)

2023-08-06 10:24:52

#espresso #coffeechain
Good morning.
https://cdn.nostr.build/i/d399eba552b3d77cf92ba893440eb0e970dce1e41cfa712dec6f576806c42afd.jpg

2023-08-06 10:07:22

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No. But I believe that if they don't it's my, your, our fault, and we should exercise out democratic power and responsibility to fix it.

2023-08-03 18:42:46

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You've had a couple of hundred years to fix society with your guns.
I think we can agree, it's not going well.

2023-08-03 18:41:21

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You've answered a point not made. Perhaps step back a little, and think?

2023-08-03 16:15:49

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That's exactly what I'm saying.
The trouble is it's quite hard to build a safe and fair society, when a section of the potential members of it insist on holding the others at gunpoint, and saying the slaughter of their children in school is the price society should pay for their beliefs.
I mean what is important enough for these idiots to actually have a social dialogue around it? It's totally unreasonable.

2023-08-03 16:04:14

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When more people have guns, more people with guns die.

2023-08-03 15:59:40

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>If nobody gets exactly what they want, then the government does not actually represent the people.
I am very sorry that you have so little understanding about human civilization, and what the success of our species is built on. I don't know who has done it to you, but we as a society need to hunt them down and stop them.
Sometimes there's just not enough sentience to work with. It needs intervention.

2023-08-03 15:50:06

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Isn't educating yourself, organizing communities, collaborating to solve problems and provide mutual support, and taking the lessons learned to influence and shape your wider society, also defending your country.
Or were you hoping for something much easier? Like shouting about how unfair the world is, and pointing a gun.
Of course it's easier, but a waste of time to achieve what you say that you want. Because individual action, however big the dog, will never achieve anything lasting.
It's not the gun that shaped America. It's communities coming together to provide safely from the tyranny of armed criminals and bullies, and building a Democratic society on the back of those communities.

2023-08-03 15:41:58

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When you've been in computing long enough, you've seen the cycle between centralised (mainframe, server, datacentre) to decentralized ( time sliced, multiuser, personal computer), and back and forth, ad nauseum.
I doubt that the cycle will reach end of line before I do.

2023-08-03 11:29:00

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This is a misunderstanding of socialisation. Nobody gets exactly what they want. But through Democratic discussion a society can set it's values, and with tolerance allow people freedom within that.
The reason that you make that compromise is to be better, stronger, offer more opportunity, and safety, than fighting for that alone. Which you just don't have the power to achieve on your own. Against a legion of other views wanting to take what's yours.
The problem is that we have been persuaded to not value society, and put the levers in the hands of those who serve other interests.
Our bad.
The solution is to gather together, agree shared values, and democratically seize control of our destiny.
No individual, however well armed, can do that. If there are enough of us we just need the pen, and the ballot box.

2023-08-03 08:24:06

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If you decentralize everything, you are too busy growing your food, and defending it, to do anything else.
The answer is to do socialization better, not usher in a new dark age.

2023-08-03 08:20:52

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No. I'm telling you that in a democracy, you the people are the government. The government is the institution of your social administration.
If it isn't you need to do your job better, and take your social responsibility more seriously.

2023-08-03 08:15:01

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One person with a gun can never hold out against an organised enemy.
That's why it's important to have the most organised, strongest, most coherent society. Working together with tolerance and fairness.

2023-08-03 08:10:50

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Governments are the representative of the people, elected by the people, directed by the people, and held account by the people.
If there's a problem with the government, it's because the people aren't doing a good enough job.

2023-08-03 08:07:23

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You are being tyrannized even with your gun. The answer is to do social democracy better. Not your gun.

2023-08-03 08:05:55

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Socially funded and democratically directed armed forces. Not armed individuals.
Armed individuals who think they are the bulwarks of society, are generally more of a danger to it.

2023-08-02 23:30:22

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.... and you need a strong coherent society for that. To provide the infrastructure and services to allow individuals to flourish. Or you will have to spend all day growing your own turnips and fending off those who would steal, rather than grow.

2023-08-02 23:26:58

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Then you are not doing it right. You need to elect governments that work in societies best interests, and hold them democratically accountable.
You can't do that acting as a bunch of individuals, without tolerance and negotiating shared values.

2023-08-02 13:25:07

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There's a world of difference between your society - the state that you democratically form, and whose values you defend, and someone elses state.
How is enabling gunmen from our society to shoot our children, protecting us all from the actions of an external state?
It seems to me that is a conflation of different, and unrelated, issues in order to justifying an action that lacks a logical defence.
Criminality is criminality. A strong united society can stand better against it, than one riven by division and fear, and fighting amongst itself.

2023-08-02 11:50:41

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Criminality, is something that we as a society should police, to enforce the social values that we have democratically mandated. Whether that's with guns, knives, or spreadsheets. That's not in doubt if you believe in law and order.
The question is, what values is it appropriate for society to mandate? Should the preferences of a small minority, take precedence over a wider constituencies right to live in freedom from fear?
The notion that 'what I believe' allows the individual to mandate behavior that threatens a wider society is surely intolerant, and thus dangerous.... on many levels?

2023-08-02 01:48:30

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It's interesting that you suggest that not thinking that anyone should have easy access to firearms, to shoot whoever they feel like, is an unusual view.
I assume that you think that everyone should also have free access to drugs, birth control, abortion, the right to express themselves politically, and define their own gender and sexuality as well?
It's the same value set, yes? The rights of the individual taking precedence over social considerations?

2023-08-02 01:19:51

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And to you. I wish peace and happiness to us all. We just have to work together with tolerance and understanding, or it's not happening.
I'm a bit autistic and tend to say things how I see them. Absolutely no personal disparagement intended.

2023-08-02 01:08:02

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Of course. Bad people will always find ways to do bad things.
The only question is does society make things easy for them, or hard. Do we set values and standards, and introduce a jeopardy in contravening them. Or just leave it to the individual.
My view is that freedom confers a responsibility on the individual, If we value the benefits of membership of society and the safety, prosperity and opportunity, that it confers on us, we must protect it.
We protect it by agreeing collectively the values of our society, by gathering together and saying that adhering to those standards is the cost of membership, and holding the people and our appointed representatives equally democratically accountable for those values and behaviors.
If you don't believe in that you are antidemocratic, and antisocial, by definition.

2023-08-02 00:55:49

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Evidence?

2023-08-02 00:53:48

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I genuinely hope that your values around gun control lead to the better social outcomes that I'm sure that we both hope for. I just don't agree with you.
I do value the honest engagement, and hope for the best outcomes for us all.
Thank you. I enjoyed that.

2023-08-01 18:45:36

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So it's the state shooting children in schools?
You've got the gun. What are you going to do about it?
Having a gun is no answer. It's part of the problem. The other is the wrong people being able to get them too easily.

2023-08-01 18:19:56

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Thats what I'm saying.
Do you not think there is degree of tyranny in giving unsuitable people access to guns, leaving the general population unable to defend their children from potential everyday slaughter?

2023-08-01 17:49:38

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Someone being able to legally aquire an automatic weapon, and slaughter children attending school, doesn't seem to massively influence this.

2023-08-01 13:21:44

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No of course not, but I'm sure that you would support reasonable control measures so that other members of society could live their lives free from the tyranny of fear, from the threat of out of control gun abuse?

2023-08-01 11:46:49

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Who are you going to resist with your gun? I'm not convinced that you can get the people that you need to in your sights.
It's also about socialization and democracy, winning the argument for a majority of people to create a fair and just world. Which isn't helped by individuals thinking that they are the big dog, and their view should take precedence. Particularly if they end up going tonto and taking out the wrong targets.

2023-08-01 11:00:41

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How is having a gun doing at keeping tyranny out of your life?

2023-08-01 03:21:20

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"I'm sorry, but it was not clear to me from his description that he breached the peace or did anything illegal, but I may have misunderstood."
Signs? Yes
Sound system? Yes
Audience? Yes
Performer? Yes
Licence for event in public space? No
Consideration for other users of public space? No
Blame the police and religious intolerance though, eh?
You all should perhaps learn to read better, if you are going to base your life on a book.

2023-08-01 03:11:06

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Oh I have. All the proof I need.
I enjoyed the chat.
Try not to scare children trying to enjoy the park, on account of your completely unsubstantiated view of the world.

2023-08-01 03:00:20

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What, like a fossil record, the complete lack of evidence of heaven, and the contradiction in claiming that your homie is king of a universe that for centuries the 'word of god' insisted didn't exist, while maintaining an earth centric view of 'all creation'?
I know that you couldn't see a compelling argument if it hit you on the arse, from what you have already said. You already know this stuff, you just refuse to see it.
There's no point having a battle of the minds, if you are going to come unarmed.

2023-08-01 02:45:26

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I'm glad to hear that you know that's utter nonsense, and were just promoting it as a reflex reaction. As you do.
I was starting to worry about you bruh.

2023-08-01 02:36:31

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So you state as fact, a series of beliefs, without any evidence. That can easily be explained by someone telling you something that isn't true, and you swallow the whole thing?
Then you ignore the facts that the pastor told you that he had breached the peace by holding an unlicenced event, with a PA, in a public park, and the police had attended, and conclude that he'd done nothing wrong?
There's nowt as queer as folk.
Your god is obviously sending you a sign. And he's sending me one too.
You believe that your god promotes justice, not only for yourselves, but for all people. Which you interpret as doing what you think is right irrespective of the impact on others.
*spoiler*
You may* be wrong.
* you definitely are, and about all of it.

2023-08-01 02:14:40

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You started it. You said "Tear down your idols, the monuments you’ve built.
Throw it all away."
Then you went wittering on about creators and kings.
I like your upgrade, the MC5, much better.
Kick out the jams.

2023-08-01 02:09:45

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These are all things that go together a treat.... and it's definitely something I've eaten in the last week!

2023-08-01 02:07:13

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I get anxious relaxing. I'm definitely keeping the caffeine. And the beer.

2023-08-01 02:01:50

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Chicken, Bacon, onion, mushroom, and garlic noodles sounds lovely.
Then just eat the peach?

2023-08-01 01:31:15

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Damn right. That's the kind of respect I deserve.
Now what's this rubbish about a creator?

2023-08-01 01:29:11

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That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm promoting tolerance without an ounce of rage in me.
What did you mean by defend yourself? The implication was fight for yourself, no? I'm saying tolerate and socialise. You are saying stand for yourself.
You seem to be getting yourself into a knot.

2023-08-01 01:25:46

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My king takes cash in suitcases from the Saudi's.
I was created by primordial soup, and a lot of patience.
You perhaps need to do a bit of research.

2023-08-01 01:22:25

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That's what tolerance and socialization does. We are powerful together. We are insignificant on our own.
How many of the world do you think you can take on in a fight?
Find common ground instead of fighting to the death on your own patch.

2023-08-01 01:17:22

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I don't get it.
What creator?
How does that work when someone decides to oppress you, put you in chains, or lock you up? Or a gang of people. Or a country? Or the world?
There is no solution that I can see other than mutual tolerance and socialization. Not one that works anyway.

2023-08-01 00:47:54

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Then it's already dying, and everyone there will know it. What they really need is something worthwhile to go to.
In marketing you learn not to expend negative energy on disparaging competing products, but to sell your own sizzle.
My first week here. I think it needs to zing a bit more. We should all work together on that.
Then the people will come.

2023-08-01 00:39:34

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King of what?
All freedoms rely on the tolerance of others. Which we have to extended to others, to receive back in return.
I think your teachings speak about forgiving sinners, and turning the other cheek?
Not sure where they stand on illegally breaching the peace, and frightening people in a public space assisted with a PA.?

2023-08-01 00:16:01

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"That is the problem. The blue checks are captured."
Maybe. It's the everybody else leaving that needs to be worked on. The blue ticks only being able to influence each other would just be a circle jerk, with no payoff.
The next problem is proprietary controlled fediverse instances under corporate moderation and control. Or whatever other walled garden comes up next.
The only long term solution is to teach people about freedom and democracy.
Keep up the good work.

2023-07-31 22:33:43

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I kept getting banned from twitter for respectfully telling the truth. Failing to tacitly support the anti-democratic global right wing control project.
But then I don't want to be part of a club that wants me as a member.
So it's complicated.

2023-07-31 10:41:45

I hear that Tommy Fury has promised to knock out KSI in October.
He's still young, that's the problem.
Get to my age, and he'll have forgotten who KSI is by October, never mind that he's supposed to be cross with him.