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Last Notes npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi In this paper, we propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer distributed timestamp server to generate computational proof of the chronological order of transactions. The system is secure as long as honest nodes collectively control more CPU power than any cooperating group of attacker nodes. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The timing is strange, just as we are getting a rapid increase in 3rd party coverage after getting slashdotted. I hope there's not a big hurry to wrap the discussion and decide. How long does Wikipedia typically leave a question like that open for comment? It would help to condense the article and make it less promotional sounding as soon as possible. Just letting people know what it is, where it fits into the electronic money space, not trying to convince them that it's good. They probably want something that just generally identifies what it is, not tries to explain all about how it works. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi There will be transaction fees, so nodes will have an incentive to receive and include all the transactions they can. Nodes will eventually be compensated by transaction fees alone when the total coins created hits the pre-determined ceiling. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi I've been working on a new electronic cash system that's fully peer-to-peer, with no trusted third party. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi null npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Being open source means anyone can independently review the code. If it was closed source, nobody could verify the security. I think it's essential for a program of this nature to be open source. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi I don't know anything about any of the bug trackers. If we were to have one, we would have to make a thoroughly researched choice. We're managing pretty well just using the forum. I'm more likely to see bugs posted in the forum, and I think other users are much more likely to help resolve and ask follow up questions here than if they were in a bug tracker. A key step is other users helping resolve the simple stuff that's not really a bug but some misunderstanding or confusion. I keep a list of all unresolved bugs I've seen on the forum. In some cases, I'm still thinking about the best design for the fix. This isn't the kind of software where we can leave so many unresolved bugs that we need a tracker for them. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Since 2007. At some point I became convinced there was a way to do this without any trust required at all and couldn't resist to keep thinking about it. Much more of the work was designing than coding. Fortunately, so far all the issues raised have been things I previously considered and planned for. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi With e-currency based on cryptographic proof, without the need to trust a third party middleman, money can be secure and transactions effortless. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi In this paper, we propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer distributed timestamp server to generate computational proof of the chronological order of transactions. The system is secure as long as honest nodes collectively control more CPU power than any cooperating group of attacker nodes. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi I believe I've worked through all those little details over the last year and a half while coding it, and there were a lot of them. The functional details are not covered in the paper, but the sourcecode is coming soon. I sent you the main files. (available by request at the moment, full release soon) npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi When someone tries to buy all the world's supply of a scarce asset, the more they buy the higher the price goes. At some point, it gets too expensive for them to buy any more. It's great for the people who owned it beforehand because they get to sell it to the corner at crazy high prices. As the price keeps going up and up, some people keep holding out for yet higher prices and refuse to sell. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi For future reference, here's my public key. It's the same one that's been there since the bitcoin.org site first went up in 2008. Grab it now in case you need it later. http://www.bitcoin.org/Satoshi_Nakamoto.asc npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Long before the network gets anywhere near as large as that, it would be safe for users to use Simplified Payment Verification (section 8) to check for double spending, which only requires having the chain of block headers, or about 12KB per day. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The design supports a tremendous variety of possible transaction types that I designed years ago. Escrow transactions, bonded contracts, third party arbitration, multi-party signature, etc. If Bitcoin catches on in a big way, these are things we'll want to explore in the future, but they all had to be designed at the beginning to make sure they would be possible later. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Proof-of-work has the nice property that it can be relayed through untrusted middlemen. We don't have to worry about a chain of custody of communication. It doesn't matter who tells you a longest chain, the proof-of-work speaks for itself. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi You could use TOR if you don't want anyone to know you're even using Bitcoin. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi If you're having trouble with the inflation issue, it's easy to tweak it for transaction fees instead. It's as simple as this: let the output value from any transaction be 1 cent less than the input value. Either the client software automatically writes transactions for 1 cent more than the intended payment value, or it could come out of the payee's side. The incentive value when a node finds a proof-of-work for a block could be the total of the fees in the block. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Then you must also be against the common system of payment up front, where the customer loses. Payment up front: customer loses, and the thief gets the money. Simple escrow: customer loses, but the thief doesn't get the money either. Are you guys saying payment up front is better, because at least the thief gets the money, so at least someone gets it? Imagine someone stole something from you. You can't get it back, but if you could, if it had a kill switch that could be remote triggered, would you do it? Would it be a good thing for thieves to know that everything you own has a kill switch and if they steal it, it'll be useless to them, although you still lose it too? If they give it back, you can re-activate it. Imagine if gold turned to lead when stolen. If the thief gives it back, it turns to gold again. It still seems to me the problem may be one of presenting it the right way. For one thing, not being so blunt about "money burning" for the purposes of game theory discussion. The money is never truly burned. You have the option to release it at any time forever. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi In a few decades when the reward gets too small, the transaction fee will become the main compensation for nodes. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi It's not a problem if transactions have to wait one or a few extra cycles to get into a block. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi I am not Dorian Nakamoto. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The receiver of a payment must wait an hour or so before believing that it's valid. The network will resolve any possible double-spend races by then. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The receiver of a payment must wait an hour or so before believing that it's valid. The network will resolve any possible double-spend races by then. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Commerce on the Internet has come to rely almost exclusively on financial institutions serving as trusted third parties to process electronic payments. While the system works well enough for most transactions, it still suffers from the inherent weaknesses of the trust based model. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The race is to spread your transaction on the network first. Think 6 degrees of freedom -- it spreads exponentially. It would only take something like 2 minutes for a transaction to spread widely enough that a competitor starting late would have little chance of grabbing very many nodes before the first one is overtaking the whole network. During those 2 minutes, the merchant's nodes can be watching for a double-spent transaction. The double-spender would not be able to blast his alternate transaction out to the world without the merchant getting it, so he has to wait before starting. If the real transaction reaches 90% and the double-spent tx reaches 10%, the double-spender only gets a 10% chance of not paying, and 90% chance his money gets spent. For almost any type of goods, that's not going to be worth it for the scammer. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi You could use TOR if you don't want anyone to know you're even using Bitcoin. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Writing a description for this thing for general audiences is bloody hard. There's nothing to relate it to. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi As you figured out, the root problem is we shouldn't be counting or spending transactions until they have at least 1 confirmation. 0/unconfirmed transactions are very much second class citizens. At most, they are advice that something has been received, but counting them as balance or spending them is premature. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The heat from your computer is not wasted if you need to heat your home. If you're using electric heat where you live, then your computer's heat isn't a waste. It's equal cost if you generate the heat with your computer. If you have other cheaper heating than electric, then the waste is only the difference in cost. If it's summer and you're using A/C, then it's twice. Bitcoin generation should end up where it's cheapest. Maybe that will be in cold climates where there's electric heat, where it would be essentially free. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The result is a distributed system with no single point of failure. Users hold the crypto keys to their own money and transact directly with each other, with the help of the P2P network to check for double-spending. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi You can get coins by getting someone to send you some, or turn on Options->Generate Coins to run a node and generate blocks. I made the proof-of-work difficulty ridiculously easy to start with, so for a little while in the beginning a typical PC will be able to generate coins in just a few hours. It'll get a lot harder when competition makes the automatic adjustment drive up the difficulty. Generated coins must wait 120 blocks to mature before they can be spent. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Broadcasts will probably be almost completely reliable. TCP transmissions are rarely ever dropped these days, and the broadcast protocol has a retry mechanism to get the data from other nodes after a while. If broadcasts turn out to be slower in practice than expected, the target time between blocks may have to be increased to avoid wasting resources. We want blocks to usually propagate in much less time than it takes to generate them, otherwise nodes would spend too much time working on obsolete blocks. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The traditional banking model achieves a level of privacy by limiting access to information to the parties involved and the trusted third party. The necessity to announce all transactions publicly precludes this method, but privacy can still be maintained by breaking the flow of information in another place: by keeping public keys anonymous. The public can see that someone is sending an amount to someone else, but without information linking the transaction to anyone. This is similar to the level of information released by stock exchanges, where the time and size of individual trades, the "tape", is made public, but without telling who the parties were. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Some places where generation will gravitate to: 1) places where it's cheapest or free 2) people who want to help for idealogical reasons 3) people who want to get some coins without the inconvenience of doing a transaction to buy them There are legitimate places where it's free. Generation is basically free anywhere that has electric heat, since your computer's heat is offsetting your baseboard electric heating. Many small flats have electric heat out of convenience. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Actually, it works well to just PM me. I'm the one who's going to be fixing it. If you find a security flaw, I would definitely like to hear from you privately to fix it before it goes public. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Actually, it works well to just PM me. I'm the one who's going to be fixing it. If you find a security flaw, I would definitely like to hear from you privately to fix it before it goes public. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi That would be nice at point-of-sale. The cash register displays a QR-code encoding a bitcoin address and amount on a screen and you photo it with your mobile. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi How does everyone feel about the B symbol with the two lines through the outside? Can we live with that as our logo? npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi A block header with no transactions would be about 80 bytes. If we suppose blocks are generated every 10 minutes, 80 bytes * 6 * 24 * 365 = 4.2MB per year. With computer systems typically selling with 2GB of RAM as of 2008, and Moore's Law predicting current growth of 1.2GB per year, storage should not be a problem even if the block headers must be kept in memory. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The Bitcoin network might actually reduce spam by diverting zombie farms to generating bitcoins instead. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Any owner could try to re-spend an already spent coin by signing it again to another owner. The usual solution is for a trusted company with a central database to check for double-spending, but that just gets back to the trust model. In its central position, the company can override the users, and the fees needed to support the company make micropayments impractical. Bitcoin's solution is to use a peer-to-peer network to check for double-spending. In a nutshell, the network works like a distributed timestamp server, stamping the first transaction to spend a coin. It takes advantage of the nature of information being easy to spread but hard to stifle. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi A transaction will quickly propagate throughout the network, so if two versions of the same transaction were reported at close to the same time, the one with the head start would have a big advantage in reaching many more nodes first. Nodes will only accept the first one they see, refusing the second one to arrive, so the earlier transaction would have many more nodes working on incorporating it into the next proof-of-work. In effect, each node votes for its viewpoint of which transaction it saw first by including it in its proof-of-work effort. If the transactions did come at exactly the same time and there was an even split, it's a toss up based on which gets into a proof-of-work first, and that decides which is valid. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi As a thought experiment, imagine there was a base metal as scarce as gold but with the following properties: - boring grey in colour - not a good conductor of electricity - not particularly strong, but not ductile or easily malleable either - not useful for any practical or ornamental purpose and one special, magical property: - can be transported over a communications channel If it somehow acquired any value at all for whatever reason, then anyone wanting to transfer wealth over a long distance could buy some, transmit it, and have the recipient sell it. Maybe it could get an initial value circularly as you've suggested, by people foreseeing its potential usefulness for exchange. (I would definitely want some) Maybe collectors, any random reason could spark it. I think the traditional qualifications for money were written with the assumption that there are so many competing objects in the world that are scarce, an object with the automatic bootstrap of intrinsic value will surely win out over those without intrinsic value. But if there were nothing in the world with intrinsic value that could be used as money, only scarce but no intrinsic value, I think people would still take up something. (I'm using the word scarce here to only mean limited potential supply) npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Commerce on the Internet has come to rely almost exclusively on financial institutions serving as trusted third parties to process electronic payments. While the system works well enough for most transactions, it still suffers from the inherent weaknesses of the trust based model. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Only people trying to create new coins would need to run network nodes. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi It can already be used for pay-to-send e-mail. The send dialog is resizeable and you can enter as long of a message as you like. It's sent directly when it connects. The recipient doubleclicks on the transaction to see the full message. If someone famous is getting more e-mail than they can read, but would still like to have a way for fans to contact them, they could set up Bitcoin and give out the IP address on their website. "Send X bitcoins to my priority hotline at this IP and I'll read the message personally." npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi I believe I've worked through all those little details over the last year and a half while coding it, and there were a lot of them. The functional details are not covered in the paper, but the sourcecode is coming soon. I sent you the main files. (available by request at the moment, full release soon) npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The problem of course is the payee can't verify that one of the owners did not double-spend the coin. A common solution is to introduce a trusted central authority, or mint, that checks every transaction for double spending. After each transaction, the coin must be returned to the mint to issue a new coin, and only coins issued directly from the mint are trusted not to be double-spent. The problem with this solution is that the fate of the entire money system depends on the company running the mint, with every transaction having to go through them, just like a bank. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi For greater privacy, it's best to use bitcoin addresses only once. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi What is needed is an electronic payment system based on cryptographic proof instead of trust, allowing any two willing parties to transact directly with each other without the need for a trusted third party. Transactions that are computationally impractical to reverse would protect sellers from fraud, and routine escrow mechanisms could easily be implemented to protect buyers. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The recipient just needs to verify it back to a depth that is sufficiently far back in the block chain, which will often only require a depth of 2 transactions. All transactions before that can be discarded. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi For future reference, here's my public key. It's the same one that's been there since the bitcoin.org site first went up in 2008. Grab it now in case you need it later. http://www.bitcoin.org/Satoshi_Nakamoto.asc npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The network is robust in its unstructured simplicity. Nodes work all at once with little coordination. They do not need to be identified, since messages are not routed to any particular place and only need to be delivered on a best effort basis. Nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they were gone. They vote with their CPU power, expressing their acceptance of valid blocks by working on extending them and rejecting invalid blocks by refusing to work on them. Any needed rules and incentives can be enforced with this consensus mechanism. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi We're not "on the lookout" for double spends to sound the alarm and catch the cheater. We merely adjudicate which one of the spends is valid. Receivers of transactions must wait a few blocks to make sure that resolution has had time to complete. Would be cheaters can try and simultaneously double-spend all they want, and all they accomplish is that within a few blocks, one of the spends becomes valid and the others become invalid. Any later double-spends are immediately rejected once there's already a spend in the main chain. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi To Sepp's question, indeed there is nobody to act as central bank or federal reserve to adjust the money supply as the population of users grows. That would have required a trusted party to determine the value, because I don't know a way for software to know the real world value of things. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The timing is strange, just as we are getting a rapid increase in 3rd party coverage after getting slashdotted. I hope there's not a big hurry to wrap the discussion and decide. How long does Wikipedia typically leave a question like that open for comment? It would help to condense the article and make it less promotional sounding as soon as possible. Just letting people know what it is, where it fits into the electronic money space, not trying to convince them that it's good. They probably want something that just generally identifies what it is, not tries to explain all about how it works. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi We propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer network. The network timestamps transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without redoing the proof-of-work. The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence of events witnessed, but proof that it came from the largest pool of CPU power. As long as a majority of CPU power is controlled by nodes that are not cooperating to attack the network, they'll generate the longest chain and outpace attackers. The network itself requires minimal structure. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Simplified Payment Verification is for lightweight client-only users who only do transactions and don't generate and don't participate in the node network. They wouldn't need to download blocks, just the hash chain, which is currently about 2MB and very quick to verify (less than a second to verify the whole chain). If the network becomes very large, like over 100,000 nodes, this is what we'll use to allow common users to do transactions without being full blown nodes. At that stage, most users should start running client-only software and only the specialist server farms keep running full network nodes, kind of like how the usenet network has consolidated. SPV is not implemented yet, and won't be implemented until far in the future, but all the current implementation is designed around supporting it. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Excellent choice of a first project, nice work. I had planned to do this exact thing if someone else didn't do it, so when it gets too hard for mortals to generate 50BTC, new users could get some coins to play with right away. Donations should be able to keep it filled. The display showing the balance in the dispenser encourages people to top it up. You should put a donation bitcoin address on the page for those who want to add funds to it, which ideally should update to a new address whenever it receives something. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi It can already be used for pay-to-send e-mail. The send dialog is resizeable and you can enter as long of a message as you like. It's sent directly when it connects. The recipient doubleclicks on the transaction to see the full message. If someone famous is getting more e-mail than they can read, but would still like to have a way for fans to contact them, they could set up Bitcoin and give out the IP address on their website. "Send X bitcoins to my priority hotline at this IP and I'll read the message personally." npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi When a node receives a block, it checks the signatures of every transaction in it against previous transactions in blocks. Blocks can only contain transactions that depend on valid transactions in previous blocks or the same block. Transaction C could depend on transaction B in the same block and B depends on transaction A in an earlier block. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi We consider the scenario of an attacker trying to generate an alternate chain faster than the honest chain. Even if this is accomplished, it does not throw the system open to arbitrary changes, such as creating value out of thin air or taking money that never belonged to the attacker. Nodes are not going to accept an invalid transaction as payment, and honest nodes will never accept a block containing them. An attacker can only try to change one of his own transactions to take back money he recently spent. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Commerce on the Internet has come to rely almost exclusively on financial institutions serving as trusted third parties to process electronic payments. While the system works well enough for most transactions, it still suffers from the inherent weaknesses of the trust based model. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Completely non-reversible transactions are not really possible, since financial institutions cannot avoid mediating disputes. The cost of mediation increases transaction costs, limiting the minimum practical transaction size and cutting off the possibility for small casual transactions, and there is a broader cost in the loss of ability to make non-reversible payments for non-reversible services. With the possibility of reversal, the need for trust spreads. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The attacker isn't adding blocks to the end. He has to go back and redo the block his transaction is in and all the blocks after it, as well as any new blocks the network keeps adding to the end while he's doing that. He's rewriting history. Once his branch is longer, it becomes the new valid one. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The incentive can also be funded with transaction fees. If the output value of a transaction is less than its input value, the difference is a transaction fee that is added to the incentive value of the block containing the transaction. Once a predetermined number of coins have entered circulation, the incentive can transition entirely to transaction fees and be completely inflation free. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Completely non-reversible transactions are not really possible, since financial institutions cannot avoid mediating disputes. The cost of mediation increases transaction costs, limiting the minimum practical transaction size and cutting off the possibility for small casual transactions, and there is a broader cost in the loss of ability to make non-reversible payments for non-reversible services. With the possibility of reversal, the need for trust spreads. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The heat from your computer is not wasted if you need to heat your home. If you're using electric heat where you live, then your computer's heat isn't a waste. It's equal cost if you generate the heat with your computer. If you have other cheaper heating than electric, then the waste is only the difference in cost. If it's summer and you're using A/C, then it's twice. Bitcoin generation should end up where it's cheapest. Maybe that will be in cold climates where there's electric heat, where it would be essentially free. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi What is needed is an electronic payment system based on cryptographic proof instead of trust, allowing any two willing parties to transact directly with each other without the need for a trusted third party. Transactions that are computationally impractical to reverse would protect sellers from fraud, and routine escrow mechanisms could easily be implemented to protect buyers. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi A transaction will quickly propagate throughout the network, so if two versions of the same transaction were reported at close to the same time, the one with the head start would have a big advantage in reaching many more nodes first. Nodes will only accept the first one they see, refusing the second one to arrive, so the earlier transaction would have many more nodes working on incorporating it into the next proof-of-work. In effect, each node votes for its viewpoint of which transaction it saw first by including it in its proof-of-work effort. If the transactions did come at exactly the same time and there was an even split, it's a toss up based on which gets into a proof-of-work first, and that decides which is valid. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi In a few decades when the reward gets too small, the transaction fee will become the main compensation for nodes. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Those coins can never be recovered, and the total circulation is less. Since the effective circulation is reduced, all the remaining coins are worth slightly more. It's the opposite of when a government prints money and the value of existing money goes down. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi In a few decades when the reward gets too small, the transaction fee will become the main compensation for nodes. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Broadcasts will probably be almost completely reliable. TCP transmissions are rarely ever dropped these days, and the broadcast protocol has a retry mechanism to get the data from other nodes after a while. If broadcasts turn out to be slower in practice than expected, the target time between blocks may have to be increased to avoid wasting resources. We want blocks to usually propagate in much less time than it takes to generate them, otherwise nodes would spend too much time working on obsolete blocks. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Actually, it works well to just PM me. I'm the one who's going to be fixing it. If you find a security flaw, I would definitely like to hear from you privately to fix it before it goes public. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi In this sense, it's more typical of a precious metal. Instead of the supply changing to keep the value the same, the supply is predetermined and the value changes. As the number of users grows, the value per coin increases. It has the potential for a positive feedback loop; as users increase, the value goes up, which could attract more users to take advantage of the increasing value. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Actually, it works well to just PM me. I'm the one who's going to be fixing it. If you find a security flaw, I would definitely like to hear from you privately to fix it before it goes public. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The incentive may help encourage nodes to stay honest. If a greedy attacker is able to assemble more CPU power than all the honest nodes, he would have to choose between using it to defraud people by stealing back his payments, or using it to generate new coins. He ought to find it more profitable to play by the rules, such rules that favour him with more new coins than everyone else combined, than to undermine the system and the validity of his own wealth. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi It should be noted that fan-out, where a transaction depends on several transactions, and those transactions depend on many more, is not a problem here. There is never the need to extract a complete standalone copy of a transaction's history. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi When someone tries to buy all the world's supply of a scarce asset, the more they buy the higher the price goes. At some point, it gets too expensive for them to buy any more. It's great for the people who owned it beforehand because they get to sell it to the corner at crazy high prices. As the price keeps going up and up, some people keep holding out for yet higher prices and refuse to sell. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi A generation ago, multi-user time-sharing computer systems had a similar problem. Before strong encryption, users had to rely on password protection to secure their files, placing trust in the system administrator to keep their information private. Privacy could always be overridden by the admin based on his judgment call weighing the principle of privacy against other concerns, or at the behest of his superiors. Then strong encryption became available to the masses, and trust was no longer required. Data could be secured in a way that was physically impossible for others to access, no matter for what reason, no matter how good the excuse, no matter what. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The heat from your computer is not wasted if you need to heat your home. If you're using electric heat where you live, then your computer's heat isn't a waste. It's equal cost if you generate the heat with your computer. If you have other cheaper heating than electric, then the waste is only the difference in cost. If it's summer and you're using A/C, then it's twice. Bitcoin generation should end up where it's cheapest. Maybe that will be in cold climates where there's electric heat, where it would be essentially free. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi If it gets tiresome working with small numbers, we could change where the display shows the decimal point. Same amount of money, just different convention for where the ","'s and "."'s go. e.g. moving the decimal place 3 places would mean if you had 1.00000 before, now it shows it as 1,000.00. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi I don't know anything about any of the bug trackers. If we were to have one, we would have to make a thoroughly researched choice. We're managing pretty well just using the forum. I'm more likely to see bugs posted in the forum, and I think other users are much more likely to help resolve and ask follow up questions here than if they were in a bug tracker. A key step is other users helping resolve the simple stuff that's not really a bug but some misunderstanding or confusion. I keep a list of all unresolved bugs I've seen on the forum. In some cases, I'm still thinking about the best design for the fix. This isn't the kind of software where we can leave so many unresolved bugs that we need a tracker for them. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The steps to run the network are as follows: 1. New transactions are broadcast to all nodes. 2. Each node collects new transactions into a block. 3. Each node works on finding a difficult proof-of-work for its block. 4. When a node finds a proof-of-work, it broadcasts the block to all nodes. 5. Nodes accept the block only if all transactions in it are valid and not already spent. 6. Nodes express their acceptance of the block by working on creating the next block in the chain, using the hash of the accepted block as the previous hash. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi When there are multiple double-spent versions of the same transaction, one and only one will become valid. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi A lot of people automatically dismiss e-currency as a lost cause because of all the companies that failed since the 1990's. I hope it's obvious it was only the centrally controlled nature of those systems that doomed them. I think this is the first time we're trying a decentralized, non-trust-based system. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi When a node finds a proof-of-work, the new block is propagated throughout the network and everyone adds it to the chain and starts working on the next block after it. Any nodes that had the other transaction will stop trying to include it in a block, since it's now invalid according to the accepted chain. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi A generation ago, multi-user time-sharing computer systems had a similar problem. Before strong encryption, users had to rely on password protection to secure their files, placing trust in the system administrator to keep their information private. Privacy could always be overridden by the admin based on his judgment call weighing the principle of privacy against other concerns, or at the behest of his superiors. Then strong encryption became available to the masses, and trust was no longer required. Data could be secured in a way that was physically impossible for others to access, no matter for what reason, no matter how good the excuse, no matter what. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Total circulation will be 21,000,000 coins. It'll be distributed to network nodes when they make blocks, with the amount cut in half every 4 years. first 4 years: 10,500,000 coins next 4 years: 5,250,000 coins next 4 years: 2,625,000 coins next 4 years: 1,312,500 coins etc... When that runs out, the system can support transaction fees if needed. It's based on open market competition, and there will probably always be nodes willing to process transactions for free. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi I am not Dorian Nakamoto. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi Difficulty just increased by 4 times, so now your cost is US$0.02/BTC. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi When a node receives a block, it checks the signatures of every transaction in it against previous transactions in blocks. Blocks can only contain transactions that depend on valid transactions in previous blocks or the same block. Transaction C could depend on transaction B in the same block and B depends on transaction A in an earlier block. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi If SHA-256 became completely broken, I think we could come to some agreement about what the honest block chain was before the trouble started, lock that in and continue from there with a new hash function. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The network is robust in its unstructured simplicity. Nodes work all at once with little coordination. They do not need to be identified, since messages are not routed to any particular place and only need to be delivered on a best effort basis. Nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they were gone. They vote with their CPU power, expressing their acceptance of valid blocks by working on extending them and rejecting invalid blocks by refusing to work on them. Any needed rules and incentives can be enforced with this consensus mechanism. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi The receiver of a payment must wait an hour or so before believing that it's valid. The network will resolve any possible double-spend races by then. npub1satsv3728d65nenvkmzthrge0aduj8088dvwkxk70rydm407cl4s87sfhu Quotable Satoshi I very much wanted to find some way to include a short message, but the problem is, the whole world would be able to see the message. As much as you may keep reminding people that the message is completely non-private, it would be an accident waiting to happen.