bholm
Brandon Holm

Use a real lightning wallet at least. Phoenix and Blixt Wallet are good non-custodial LN wallets.
You can still use WoS to receive zaps and then withdraw to your own LN wallet, but don’t use Muun, it’s terrible and not even an LN wallet.

2023-03-16 21:58:57 GMT

- reply

https://testflight.apple.com/join/EXvGhRzS

2023-03-09 07:20:16 GMT

- reply

No, Muun no es una billetera Lightning. Es una billetera en cadena y funciona con Lightning usando “submarine swaps”. Por eso, las transacciones pueden ser muy caras, especialmente cuando el mempool está lleno.

2023-03-09 01:59:14 GMT

- reply

Because Muun isn’t a lightning wallet. It’s a terrible on-chain wallet that makes LN payments using submarine swaps. This makes it expensive to use and is bad for bitcoin scaling overall by putting way more transactions on-chain than needed and bloating the UTXO set with a ton of tiny UTXOs (which is another reason why fees are so expensive with it).
PSA: don’t use Muun.

2023-03-09 00:35:08 GMT

- reply

I don’t think there is a Mac build target, but because Apple silicon chips have the same architecture as iPhone and iPad devices, the M1/M2 Mac computers can just run the iPad version.
I don’t think it would be too hard to make a Mac specific build though that would run on both Intel and Apple silicon machines.

2023-03-06 17:16:32 GMT

Lol it looks like Twitter blocked themselves from their own API 🤣

2023-03-01 02:19:43 GMT

- reply

Damn that’s a lot of mega zaps! ⚡️

2023-02-22 07:14:24 GMT

- reply

Yikes

2023-02-22 05:51:45 GMT

- reply

It’s maybe fine for very light usage, but it’s terrible for privacy since Muun has your xpub (you can’t even view your own xpub with Muun) and there’s absolutely no form of coin control. All the submarine swaps over time will leave you with a mess of UTXO dust that will get expensive to move out of the wallet and it bloats the UTXO set as a whole.

2023-02-22 05:49:12 GMT

- reply

Yeah I would only use Muun for LN <> on-chain swaps. It can get a little pricey at times though. It’s terrible for LN payments and receiving on LN though.
WoS is probably the best LN only experience right now but it’s totally custodial.
My current favorite LN wallet is Blixt Wallet, it’s a full LND node on your phone so it’s fully non-custodial and totally sovereign since you can open channels to whatever nodes you want. The only downside is you can’t currently receive LNURL-pay payments/use an LN address but the dev is currently working on a trust minimized solution for that.

2023-02-22 05:38:58 GMT

- reply

It’s because Muun isn’t a lightning wallet. It’s an on-chain wallet that just interacts with LN via submarine swaps. It’s actually a petty terrible experience if you start to use LN often.

2023-02-22 03:21:25 GMT

- reply

Slight technical correction, it not a BIP39 phrase, it’s an Aezeed phrase (since LND uses Aezeed which has additional info such as wallet birthday encoded in it). Another BIP39 wallet won’t recognize it as a valid seed, the wallet would also need to support Aezeed, such as BlueWallet or another LND instance.

2023-02-06 14:56:00 GMT

People really need to stop using Muun and start using real Lightning wallets. Using Muun as a “Lightning wallet” is worse than just making normal on-chain transactions.
https://twitter.com/mononautical/status/1621893734156623872

2023-01-16 08:05:38 GMT

- reply

It’s not cheap with all the dust those LN payments make. Look at all the 1000-5000 sat dust UTXOs that were in my Muun wallet. I just emptied it on-chain since it would have been even more expensive to use LN with it.
https://mempool.space/tx/600facd14dcf12707d38bb48e448ab2413e9a78e2e387ff79044ac75f2e61972

2023-01-06 04:49:38 GMT

- reply

Spending bitcoin is fine, just make sure you replace what you spend.

2023-01-05 01:46:29 GMT

- reply

Possibly when deleting the app it didn’t delete the local data on your phone.

2023-01-05 01:41:04 GMT

- reply

It doesn’t back up to the cloud. I had to re-import all my wallets when I got a new phone and restored from iCloud.

2023-01-05 01:31:54 GMT

- reply

It’s animating for me 🤷‍♂️

2023-01-05 01:19:38 GMT

- reply

Zeus is sick to connect to your own remote node. Not everyone is able to run a node at home though, so I also recommend Blixt Wallet which is a full LND node on your phone.

2023-01-05 01:18:40 GMT

- reply

Wallet of Satoshi is good for small amounts (keep in mind it’s custodial). It’s easy to get a lnaddress or LNURL to receive sats to. Just withdraw it to a non-custodial wallet once in a while.
Phoenix wallet is decent for noobs and is non-custodial, but relies on the ACINQ node.
If you wanna be really sovereign, either run your own node at home, or run Blixt Wallet which is a full LND node on your phone.

2023-01-05 01:00:51 GMT

- reply

Even when you send or receive over LN, you’re doing an on-chain transaction. It just uses submarine swaps to integrate with LN.

2023-01-05 00:51:27 GMT

- reply

It’s because bitcoin “influencers” who don’t actually know anything about bitcoin keep shilling it. And then people just trust them without verifying.

2023-01-05 00:47:21 GMT

- reply

Also Muun isn’t even a LN wallet.

2023-01-04 21:02:05 GMT

- reply

Why not use LNURL? What advantage does bolt12 bring for that functionality?

2023-01-04 18:12:34 GMT

- reply

The key icon to the left of the npub and the copy icon to the right of it still look very low res.

2023-01-04 08:14:30 GMT

- reply

#[2]

2023-01-04 04:30:22 GMT

- reply

Yeah Blixt Wallet is just designed to be its own self contained standalone node.
Zeus is awesome and probably the best option out there for controlling a remote LND node.
Hampus is on nostr here #[3]

2023-01-04 04:22:17 GMT

- reply

Blixt Wallet because it’s a full LND node in your pocket. Fully non-custodial and trust-less. You’re also completely sovereign because you don’t rely on the wallet provider’s infrastructure, you can connect to and open channels to any node in the network.

2023-01-03 18:10:44 GMT

- reply

Roger Ver?

2023-01-03 17:25:38 GMT

- reply

I use an iPhone 14 Pro.

2023-01-02 03:59:58 GMT

- reply

Whatever, it’s just an IP, it’s leaked everywhere on every service you use already anyway.

2023-01-01 18:37:35 GMT

- reply

Everyone should withdraw any bitcoin they have on a custodial platform into their own custody. #ProofOfKeys

2023-01-01 18:35:37 GMT

- reply

lnbc5u1p3mr5n3pp5uyxwu7jaex4kfkkpqylfddyl7rafc0k62yaa78raf7c7960ysngqdqu2askcmr9wssx7e3q2dshgmmndp5scqzpgxqyz5vqsp5f8vrzhfcrj2lp5cfkrea8hz3cw35l7n7lfvyypkxdm3a7dy0ctjs9qyyssqhqsl9lyd9859uad7ym3rvr2ph09xaslpe5lr7fsd775msgw48unsy48jtdgmasw7lnj5dmye8x6vl76ckh9dl4tuj6pnncyxzzp6m8spr233nr

2022-12-31 02:19:07 GMT

I’m spending so much less time on Twitter and so much more time on nostr and I’m loving it.

2022-12-30 16:28:09 GMT

- reply

Just get a new wife.

2022-12-30 09:56:50 GMT

- reply

Anything over tor is brutal haha.

2022-12-30 05:22:33 GMT

- reply

It’s 100% a submarine swap. That’s been confirmed by Muun devs several times.

2022-12-30 05:22:04 GMT

- reply

LNBC6800N1P36UATFPP5QPZV6V9Y4QKSTGDCAEXKE2T3GDAANRNKLSJHED65VG3G577JQ2PQDQQCQZPGXQRRSSSP5Z85H5FXAU8Y3RDJMGUPLKHKKSCRMHY7RDACPEJY6039DFX9Y83XS9QYYSSQK4UUEH3XG869TE737WXQL84HWHMN4MENTNNAQP5HFXKHZMSXZY9385MFPGW5HS97ZK5LS5KEHEC3WEDWY7YG6V23NJKHGWS24FRAP2QQZ6YC0T

2022-12-30 05:21:19 GMT

- reply

Also my sats are now trapped in muun for 680 sats to send them back.

2022-12-30 05:20:57 GMT

- reply

LNBC960N1P36UAF8PP5PR20JS7H9JWSDHNXMYM2AXU7EWFQKZZ7ZXHRLFXQK3FFXWUWUDHQDQQCQZPGXQRRSSSP546Y62EWYGN8D8SSTL0CKNTMNE66ZJD6EQP43ZHKPL4Q9WX5H8ZMS9QYYSSQQQTYCGHLKZ77H5MHCDGTZCVE4YXT08Z6038D3UQGFASPDVKD3F340PDDTLVEYQ8S9WDCAZNUJQF2RMY96X0KUXSDEH20JUX35PCM3CGPW48DWP

2022-12-30 05:19:54 GMT

- reply

Wallet of Satoshi is significantly cheaper than Muun.
WoS is probably the best one to onboard noobs with to LN with a few sats. Then graduate to Phoenix or Blixt when they’re ready and need a non-custodial wallet.
Muun is basically custodial for receiving LN until the on-chain transaction confirms back into your wallet from the submarine swap.

2022-12-30 05:17:47 GMT

- reply

57 sats to send the 50k back to Blixt Wallet from Phoenix.
https://ibb.co/VQGQYQ0

2022-12-30 05:17:01 GMT

- reply

Minimum fee to send the 50k back to Blixt Wallet is 680 sats! 🤯
https://ibb.co/QDYtYTn

2022-12-30 05:12:16 GMT

- reply

Blixt Wallet to Muun. 96 sats to send 50k. More than twice as expensive to send to Muun. https://ibb.co/GMN9tgh

2022-12-30 05:10:51 GMT

- reply

I only did 50k for now. Blixt Wallet to Phoenix. 38 sats to send 50k. https://ibb.co/J5Q383S

2022-12-30 05:02:04 GMT

- reply

I’ll do it if you agree to reimburse me the fees.

2022-12-30 04:59:13 GMT

- reply

Big YIKES!

2022-12-30 04:57:31 GMT

- reply

That’s true, but the fact their willing to cover a transaction to Wallet of Satoshi but they need to charge a fee to send to Muun is telling. Sending funds to a Muun wallet costs them significantly more money.

2022-12-30 04:51:59 GMT

- reply

It’s not FUD. It’s facts from my experience of using Muun and about a dozen other LN wallets over the past 2 years as well as running an LN routing node. I even wrote the stacker.news article, that was from my own experience.
Muun is about the worst one out there.

2022-12-30 04:46:30 GMT

- reply

That’s expensive af for an LN payment.

2022-12-30 04:46:07 GMT

- reply

I’d rather not donate more sats to Muun. Even Robosats doesn’t support sending to Muun because it’s too damn expensive: https://learn.robosats.com/docs/wallets/#muun-mobile

2022-12-30 04:42:58 GMT

- reply

Except Muun doesn’t actually work well if you actually make regular LN payments.

2022-12-30 04:35:17 GMT

- reply

Sending to Muun from any other wallet will be expensive af since they siphon fees through their magnetron node.

2022-12-30 04:34:31 GMT

- reply

Blixt Wallet is my favorite. Non-custodial and you can manage your own channels.
Phoenix is decent for LN noobs but a little expensive to get started.
Wallet of Satoshi for total noobs but keep in mind that it’s custodial so don’t keep any significant amount of funds in there for long.

2022-12-30 04:30:40 GMT

- reply

Again. Muun wallet isn’t an LN wallet. Muun also siphons fees from anyone sending funds to it since it needs to relay though their magnetron node which charges insane fees for incoming transactions.
You can even read more here: https://stacker.news/items/23581

2022-12-30 04:23:35 GMT

- reply

When you send on-chain you get to set your own fee rate, but you can’t manage your UTXOs, and when you try to send all those dust UTXOs it will get expensive, even at 1 sat/vB.
Try sending something over 300k sats on Muun. It will very likely get expensive quickly.

2022-12-30 04:19:54 GMT

- reply

Because it’s not sustainable and it’s not a real LN wallet. If you haven’t experienced high fees from it yet, you haven’t really been using LN a lot yet, especially larger payments.
Muun will make you wait for an on-chain confirmation when sending larger payments because they don’t trust you with a zero conf for larger payments.
Muun also doesn’t fully support LNURL yet.
It’s also a terrible on-chain wallet too, there’s no coin control and you’ll end up with a mess of UTXOs with the submarine swaps.
Try withdraw all your funds from Muun on-chain and you’ll see all the inputs get merged, and it could be quite expensive to do so.

2022-12-30 04:13:57 GMT

- reply

No it’s not. It’s an on-chain wallet that just interacts with LN via submarine swaps. You’re still making an on-chain transaction for every LN payment you send or receive and that will get expensive and it’s not sustainable.

2022-12-30 03:55:08 GMT

- reply

Muun wallet isn’t an LN wallet.

2022-12-27 21:21:49 GMT

- reply

Yes they will give you an LN invoice you can receive funds to over LN, but that invoice goes to their own node, where they swap it to on-chain funds that go into your Muun wallet. All funds live on-chain with Muun.

2022-12-27 20:53:09 GMT

- reply

Muun isn’t an LN wallet though. It’s an on-chain wallet that just interacts with LN via expensive submarine swaps. It’s not sustainable.

2022-12-27 20:52:37 GMT

- reply

Blixt Wallet. iOS TestFlight is temporarily paused right now but should be active again soon.
Blixt Wallet runs a full LND node on your phone giving you the most control. You can open channels to any node you like in the network.

2022-12-26 20:05:59 GMT

- reply

Why is Blixt Wallet not on that list?

2022-12-21 01:36:59 GMT

- reply

Thanks!

2022-12-21 01:36:05 GMT

- reply

lnbc20u1p36ych8pp5ztvhuzrj2mqmp8c4ljfsqdsf4zaa467p9lxdan32vndqj7gudvssdqu2askcmr9wssx7e3q2dshgmmndp5scqzpgxqyz5vqsp57jx2d28mnf9gmcllvvuy8q2qal665mlx3yr4k7tkepg4cpwlvq0s9qyyssqng323x984fdpvr92zzcxgmcq2ay58eer7kf9va62tnafrzkhjlypdy47xum9hxu0g94vkmsdehxffknn50axjdnk073t28e76e2sv5cq34prc6

2022-12-20 23:48:57 GMT

- reply

We can’t be using an unsustainable platform to onboard. Wallet of Satoshi is much better for onboarding. Yes it’s custodial but that’s fine for playing around with a few sats on LN.
Phoenix is a good in-between but I think Blixt Wallet is probably the best option for most people. It is a full LND node on your phone and allows you to open your own channels but you can also just use the default automatic channel fine too.

2022-12-20 23:46:12 GMT

- reply

Yes Muun is just a regular bitcoin wallet, but one that lacks privacy and sovereignty. You need to trust their node and there’s no form of coin control with it. BlueWallet is a much better on-chain mobile wallet to use.

2022-12-20 21:59:07 GMT

- reply

Yeah that seems like a typical on-chain fee. It’s not that big of a deal when the mempool is empty but it can get expensive fast when the mempool is full. Also they’ll make you wait for an on-chain confirmation for larger LN payments.

2022-12-20 21:55:20 GMT

- reply

Fair enough that makes sense. Best to ensure its well tested before implementing it to ensure no funds are lost.

2022-12-20 21:50:55 GMT

- reply

It’s an on-chain wallet (and not a very good one. No coin control, xpub export, address viewer, etc.). It just interacts with LN via submarine swaps which gets expensive and not scalable since there’s an on-chain transaction for each LN payment (except for very small ones where they basically just loan you the funds until you make a larger payment).

2022-12-20 21:42:05 GMT

- reply

I would definitely adopt Taproot if Coldcard supported signing. I think there’s not much market demand for it yet because a lot of the tools we use still don’t support it.

2022-12-20 21:37:59 GMT

- reply

Muun is trash. It’s not even a LN wallet.