only nip-29 doesn't depend on trustworthy clients. depending on trustworthy clients is, quite frankly, extremely naive.
the lack of a defined ACL hierarchy is the mistake with nip-29. as for redundancy, you just make a cluster of them all syncing together with negentropy, which decentralizes it and makes it failure resistant.
i'm surprised nobody has come up with one that doesn't have any ACL hierarchy and you see what you want to see on the relay, and that it broadcasts it to several relays run by members of the community. everything would be visible by default and your client would have whitelist/blacklist option so you can see what you want to see, or not see what you don't want to see. people would do their own moderating. i guess nip-01 style twitter clones basically work like this. this is also why clients should allow you to view relay feeds, then you can have relays specialize on a community set of topics.
also, reddit-style discussions were created by Silberengel (npub1l5s…gx9z) in her jumble fork. these are a type of community also, but it's relay centric i think, iirc.
mleku
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2026-01-24 07:00:57 GMT
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