I'm an environmental economist who researches econ pedagogy to make learning economics marginally less dismal. My pipe-dream is to write a fantasy novel/economics textbook, which is getting closer to reality every day. #economics #TeachEcon #sustainability #DoughnutEconomics #degrowth Profile pic is me smiling in front of a whiteboard with economics gibberish -- cause econ makes me happy. Background is my dog, Freya, who is derpily sticking her tongue out while passed out.
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Last Notes npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Literally one billionaire could fund the caring for all the elderly. It's not about lack of labor so much as society deciding to allocate resources towards where we need it (rather than yachts and trying for a wealthy few to live forever). @npub13p3…s0ff @npub1mvk…8tmn npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio No, CNN, there is no "fertility crisis" and, in fact, we should be celebrating that populations will begin falling. Hopefully that happens before the predicted 2064. Changing demographics that will "upend the consumer culture upon which mature economies depend" is a problem of the economic system, not birth rates. Time to move past the Ponzi scheme that relies on ever-increasing growth as the man-made economy is easier to change than biophysical constraints. #degrowth https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/index.html npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Water wars are a real and growing danger. I'm actually surprised more cross-border conflicts haven't erupted over fresh water yet. But they are brewing... npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Truth. Though the bubble isn't quite as drastic as Truthsocial, Tesla does produce things of at least minimal value, after all. But I agree it's share price is as inflated as Musk's ego, and intimately connected to it. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Same. I don't think I even noticed how bad the illustration was, but you are spot on calling it out as AI generated. It really is the worst possible timeline... npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio For all that is holy, this is wholly terrifying. Apple "envisions a future where a ubiquitous AI system that knows all about you can use that knowledge to surface the right information and take action on your behalf" ... or, far more likely, on behalf of whomever controls said AI. Seriously, how much convenience do people think they'll gain that it outweighs the potentially horrifying reductions in privacy and control (all of which is in addition to huge energy use). https://www.axios.com/2024/06/11/apple-ai-iphone-moment npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Colorado has been trying this weird thing since 2017 - give unhoused people homes. Intuitively, "giving people who are homeless a place to live, no strings attached, not only changes their lives but can save public money." Two more housing complexes are being built (one opening next week) using this successful template, adding 100 units. Mental health services, peer support specialists and case managers will be available to residents but not required. https://coloradosun.com/2024/06/05/housing-homelessness-mental-health/ #homlessness npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio You both bring up good points. I'm not sure I'd call "racist" namecalling, and maybe not even "asshole" . Calling out someone for racism is more a statement of fact, in my mind. Calling out negative, harmful behavior is different than using the trendy name calling that I see as always harmful. "Eloon" or "Genocide Joe" or the like are names that are intended to insult supporters of the person as much as the person themselves and always detract from the conversation, imo. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I like that approach; I try for similar. The name calling, especially, is something I'd like to see people move away from. Even with characters we all largely despise, like Trump, I just don't see the use in calling names. It gets far worse when we do it to each other. It just makes it so much harder to find the things we agree upon or even the roots of where we differ. @npub1ywm…qdga npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio And, maybe more directly related to your comment, I don't think 'blind unity' is the goal. Unquestioning loyalty to the group is, almost exactly, the problem we are trying to fight - whether that is loyalty to an individual (aka fascism) or a dominant idea within a party. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I never mind a constructive comment, especially from a trusted mutual, like yourself. And I fully agree. Not only is it wrong to shut down vulnerable groups, I also don't think it's effective. We are approaching or, more likely, in the midst of systems-level collapse - political, environmental, and (likely) economic. Tough decisions will need to be made and it would be so nice if we could, productively, have the hard discussions surrounding them. It's something to shoot for. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Genuinely thought you argued that well and fairly. That earns you a follow ;) It is all-too-easy to group people as 'bad' because they view things slightly differently or think another approach is better, even if it has awful costs. Clearly not everyone who supports Biden dehumanizes those suffering in Gaza. That false dichotomy is well-worth challenging, especially when done in a friendly and open question as you have done here. @npub15jk…6wcf @npub168l…h066 npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Same, friend. Same. So much energy is wasted battling over the 1% we disagree about rather than figuring out ways to oppose those who we disagree with almost entirely. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio If it isn't clear yet, the fight we need to be having is against the far-right, not each other. I don't give a shit if we disagree on specific policy, goals or (most commonly) the best way to achieve them. We need to figure out how to work together to fight the very very scary common enemy that is quickly growing in power. Make friends, make coalitions, make temporary alliances. Cause whatever progress you want to achieve will not happen with a fascist takeover of our world. #Politics npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Can bioengineered plants save us from #ClimateChange and air pollution? Hard no. But there is huge untapped potential in optimizing plants that can help mitigate some of the harms we seem so determined to cause, which is pretty cool. There are already plants on the market (in the US, at least) that filter air "equivalent of up to 30 regular houseplants in terms of air purification." And that's the tip of the iceberg of unlocking the potential of plants. https://phys.org/news/2024-06-neo-px-super-air-pollution.html npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I know we don't all agree on where the line is for these protests movements. I can safely say this far crosses the line for me. I say this as someone arrested at a student protest (one absolutely nothing like what is described here). I hope others who take a pro-Palestine stance are able to denounce what they see as awful - targeting a student organization falls into that category. And zero. Zero is the answer to the chant of 'how many kids did Hillel kill today?' npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio In game theory, there is a concept of "credible threats." The only way for a threat to work - to change actions of others - is for it to be believable. Thank you Putin, for providing a great example of what is not a credible threat that I can use next semester! npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Don't threaten Tesla shareholders with a good (and strategically sound) time... "Tesla CEO Elon Musk could leave if $56 billion pay package not approved, shareholders warned" Seriously, where is the downside? The next CEO will likely not have a negative brand value with liberals (aka the ones who buy electric vehicles) and fewer AI microchips will be diverted to X. And that's in addition to not having to give $56 billion to a wealthy egomaniac! https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/6/24173064/tesla-board-chair-warn-elon-musk-leave-pay-shareholders npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I'd be curious about that. I know the floor would have a large carbon cost to build, but it could pay off depending on how long it lasts and its efficiency. I'd love to see an engineer with insights provide insight into that. Less sure about the recyclable LED wristbands. Depends on what they are replacing, which is a bit unclear. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio "Coldplay has announced that they have reduced their touring carbon footprint by 59% compared with their previous world tour – via some creative methods that include kinetic dancefloors that allow dancing fans to generate electricity, recyclable LED wristbands and the band travelling by train." Good on you, Coldplay. It's chill to see meaningful reductions in CO2 emissions while still providing a great experience. It shows we have low cost ways to fight #ClimateChange. https://www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/jun/04/coldplay-world-tour-eco-friendly-emissions-target-music-of-spheres npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Colorado joins four other states (California, Illinois, Maryland and Minnesota) in banning book bans! This new bill also: - makes the names of people trying to ban books public record. - protects library workers from "the whims of politicians or the demands of the public." Things like this make me proud to be a Colorado resident. https://bookriot.com/colorado-passes-anti-book-ban-bill-for-public-libraries/ npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Even in that case, my second point still holds. There are many costs to renewables. Thinking of them as "clean energy" is really a misnomer/intentional greenwashing from power companies and the like. Even with their low levels of CO2, I'm far from convinced the benefits of AI data centers outweigh the environmental and social costs of mining and disposal required to generate renewable energy. @npub15ws…0e5k @npub14sz…ur2r npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I appreciate the quibble! I agree nuclear could be counted with renewables - though some in the environmental and intergenerational equity camps disagree due to the unsolved problem of radioactive waste. But I would expand the discussion beyond CO2 emitted at power plants. Getting tunnel visioned on that one cost - a very important cost for sure - misses other damaging elements of power generation. For instance, CO2 generated from mining materials. @npub1wd3…fe2c @npub14sz…ur2r npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio First, they aren't all generated by renewables. The US is much closer to 25% renewables than 100% (and I'm sure that is true for Virginia, but don't have the data handy). Second, renewable energy still has massive environmental costs. Mining the materials (especially for solar) and replacement/disposal (like wind turbine blades) have real costs. There is no such thing as green energy, just less awful energy, so reducing energy demand is key. @npub14sz…ur2r https://objstorage.f7it.net/masto1/media_attachments/files/112/564/461/102/667/594/original/994fb5371e554d1f.png npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Trump raised a record-breaking $34.8 million the day after being convicted of election interference. That's nearly double their previous largest single-day online donation amount. 29.7% were new donors. This is not a drill. He will get reelected unless people on the left step up to oppose him. And #Project2025 makes it clear how much worse things can get, both domestically and abroad. #VoteBlue https://www.axios.com/2024/05/31/trump-fundraising-record-hush-money-conviction #USPol #USPolitics npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Direct action against the US would be very, very unlikely to reduce support for a conflict with Russia though. Like, I cannot think of a single thing that could unify support except for a direct attack on US soil. @npub13f9…ech3 npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Direct action of that scale seems unlikely, especially since most of what you describe can be done by cyber attacks. It would have similar impact and wouldn't necessarily trigger all-out war with the US. Disruption and fear would be the weapons of choice, I'd wager, because there is nothing Russia could meaningfully do on US soil that would prevent the US from being able to confront them on the battlefield - the US military is already too mobalized abroad. @npub13f9…ech3 npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I'm still #TeamOrca even if they are sinking yachts for fun rather thanmaking a political statement about inequality. "But, sadly, it's not their anticapitalist 'eat the rich' agenda, nor is it to do with territory and aggression. The truth is, well, it's child's play." But I'm going to keep assuming (or pretending) that they are doing it on moral grounds, cause that's just more fun. https://newatlas.com/biology/orcas-killer-whales-boats/ npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio That's definitely true. And people probably do care more about the Consumer Price Index more than inflation, for good reason. So it's partially that it's unexpected and also that prices are genuinely much, much higher than is ideal right now. The pandemic price-gouging is real. #Greedflation (And I'll happily give charity for the trend line, particularly since its limitations were given in advance!) npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio We are still feeling the effects of inflation, for sure. Paychecks don't stretch as far as they did before the pandemic, but that's not exactly inflation. Inflation is about the changes, how fast prices are rising/falling while what people, fairly, care about is actual price levels that still are very high. The issue comes from Democrats, correctly, touting lower levels of inflation and typical people are considering them 'out of touch' because they misinterpret the word. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio You've probably heard that many people *think* inflation is still much higher than it actually is, but did you know that people have changed the definition of inflation (and didn't tell us economists)? Inflation no longer seems to mean "rising prices" but, instead, "high prices". So 'inflation' can be high even as prices fall, the thought of which gives me a hell of a headache... https://www.axios.com/2024/05/26/inflation-definition-evolution-high-prices #econonics #inflation npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio When non-violent protest - non-violent protest to save the world, no less - is criminalized, the world should worry. "Five members of Letzte Generation, Germany’s equivalent to Just Stop Oil, have been charged with “forming a criminal organisation”, a move civil rights campaigners say could in effect criminalise future support for the climate campaign." "It is believed to be the first time the law has been applied to a non-violent protest group." https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/23/alarm-as-german-climate-activists-charged-with-forming-a-criminal-organisation #ClimateChange npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Fair. Thanks for asking around. I'm definitely reaching the point that I'm comfortable sharing this story, from everything I've seen. Awful shit.. @npub1qrt…v3mw @npub1n8f…vjs4 @npub18a8…d22r npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio That is pretty strong evidence, assuming you trust the source. Not questioning that, by any means. Just not someone I know much about. @npub1qrt…v3mw @npub1n8f…vjs4 @npub18a8…d22r npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio That's good info. Definitely adds credibility, but I am not to the point of convinced, yet. Very much appreciate the info regardless. It's valuable. @npub1qrt…v3mw @npub1n8f…vjs4 @npub18a8…d22r npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio The "super thorough investigation" is actually just a basic Google search. It's not a major hassle. A stance is believing everything bad you hear about Israel is highly problematic and seems like it would work against (what I assume to be) your goal of acheiving justice for Palestine. (And this is coming from someone who was, verifyably, arrested at a pro-Palestine campus protest, in case that matters for how you think about my response.) @npub1qrt…v3mw npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio This is not about giving anyone the benefit of the doubt. It's about verifying information, not just believing things because it fits with an already held narrative. Calling this post out for misinformation (until evidence is provided to the contrary) helps ensure that we all have a more accurate view of the world. Every piece of information deserves to be verified and thought critically about before sharing and spreading, IMO. @npub1qrt…v3mw npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I feel you and am sorry you are bearing the brunt of a lot of misinfo and hate right now (which I would guess is more than usual, but that's a low bar). I agree it's incredibly hard to verify what is true, especially in real time. The language barriers definitely do not help and, what I see is even more challenging, the highly polarizing nature of this conflict makes it so much worse. We all need to stay vigilant and think critically. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Yeah, I'm skeptical. The only thing I can find is an X post with no source linked. Everyone, please verify this before reposting. This has all the hallmarks of misinformation that aligns with many of our already held beliefs, making us particularly susceptible to it. Obviously, I will happily reconsider if/when a source and more detail are provided than a picture found on Xitter. @npub1vlk…m0nh npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I've really been trying to just be an observer here, but I can't resist calling out this absudity. Did you really just use a specific example of how correlation doesn't imply causation to argue that correlation does, in fact, imply causation? That's next level stupid. You seem to be (mis)interpreting "imply" to mean something like "incorrectly believe" at times, my illogical, capitalist friend. @npub1gg4…euuk npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Yeah. It's a shame there is such a disconnect between what is and what should be. But, alas, the way businesses are run today is running everything into the ground, including many businesses themselves, all for the short-term gain of those in power. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio You seem to imply 'strip mining' a company is not 'running it like a business.' Today it seems like that is the primary way to do it! npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Same! I'd love to read more about what is being referenced if there is a link handy. @npub1f5k…yc9f @npub130s…wgmu npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio They are intertwined, but could be (at least partially) decoupled. I reject the idea that, with our technology, we could not support a high-wellbeing society for everyone we have living (and more). Especially if we genuinely pushed for maximizing wellbeing instead of profits. Human ingenuity is truly amazing and has yet to be harnessed in a direction to benefit all. The more we design economies to incentivize that, the better. And, as a hopeless optimist, I believe we can. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I think an important point of this is that we *cannot* resolve the economic crisis under capitalism (at least how it is currently defined). The persuit of growth (and profits) preclude it. So switching economic systems to one that inherently values the ecosystem we depend on provides a chance, at least, of doing so. I'll take a chance, slim as it may be, over none at all. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio The world would be a much better place if that's what most people used their business degrees for :) @npub12p6…gpnr npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I'm far less interested in if the ICC has jurisdiction than whether they have sufficient evidence to think Bibi has committed war crimes, and I think most others should be too. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio This is a prime time for Democrats to change their tune on #Gaza. "On the basis of evidence collected and examined by my Office, I have reasonable grounds to believe that Benjamin NETANYAHU, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yoav GALLANT, the Minister of Defence of Israel, bear criminal responsibility for the following war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on the territory of the State of Palestine (in the Gaza strip) from at least 8 October 2023" https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-icc-prosecutor-karim-aa-khan-kc-applications-arrest-warrants-situation-state #USPol npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio And the many that argue it are the wealthy who the capitalist economy is designed to serve, and the economists at right-wing think thanks they lavishly fund. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Ah, #capitalism. Neoclasical (mainstream) economic theory tells us it ensures resources will be put to the best, most efficient use. However, ignores the obvious: wealth equals power, so that what is "best" for society is what the richest value. Like chasing everlasting youth by getting weekly blood transfusions from your teenage son and $40,000 gym membership add-ons. Imagine if these resources were devoted to fighting #ClimateChange or #poverty instead. https://www.axios.com/2024/05/19/wellness-longevity-industry-equinox-membership #economics npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Self-interest + shortermism + monopoly power = whatever this shit is: "Frontier knew that it could make a billion dollars in profit over a decade by investing in fiber build-out, but it chose not to, because stock analysts will downrank any carrier that made capital investments that took more than five years to mature. Because Frontier's execs were paid primarily in stock, they chose... to leave a billion dollars sitting on the table..." https://pluralistic.net/2024/05/16/symmetrical-10gb-for-119/#utopia @npub1fdr…lvhs #economics npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I really don't get why a campaign whose only platform was 'anything other than what that guy says' wouldn't be popular. The fact that #Biden is doing that plus fighting for #ClimateChange and building infrastructure and lowering prescription drug prices and fighting for abortion access and more and still can't get 50% of the US on board is truly baffling to me. https://www.axios.com/2024/05/16/trump-policy-speeches-favorite-phrases-analysis https://objstorage.f7it.net/masto1/media_attachments/files/112/450/882/103/451/077/original/44fd56706d4d5b67.png npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Captive clients make the best (aka most profitable) customers! npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Hard to keep customers when they keep getting sucked out of doors at 40,000 feet. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Well, I retract my statement! I genuinely did not know this was an ongoing claim - though, I cannot say I am shocked, sadly. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Yeah, that's a strong example and I'm definitely in agreement. Though, I'm not sure the indigenous land grabs were justified by 'running things like a business' exactly, but it definitely follows similar themes (and you're spot on about the impact on prices). npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Can you expand on that thought? Is the idea that most people, right now, assume the most important things should be run like a business, which is the opposite of what it should be? I think I am mostly tracking and am in agreement but want to make sure I am not just making assumptions based on incomplete information :) Fully agree on the point on false accounting. It is so easy to cook the books to make short-term profits, at the very least. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Yeah, anyone who fails the Elon-litmus test has truly delved deep into the dark arts of bigotry. @npub12hm…df8y npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Ah business degrees. Take one semester off the worst parts of economics and extrapolate it into destroying the world, one golf-meeting at a time. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio We really need to rethink our capitalistic obsession of running things like a business. Cutting costs to increase profits obviously doesn't make sense in areas of education, healthcare, public utilities, and prisons, to name just a few. Hell, Boeing is making a strong case that it doesn't even make sense for businesses to be run like a business, much less these public goods... npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I am torn about this. My wife and I have (somewhat) jokingly talked about fleeing to New Zealand if Trump is elected and the US continues its trajectory towards fucking terrifying. But the more I think about it, the less it makes sense. For better or worse, if the US falls to right-wing authoritarianism, I don't think anywhere in the world will be safe. Staying to fight in any way one can may be the better option, for many, though that may depend on privilege/vulnerability. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I'd be confident in saying there are some good people in college administrations who made calls I would very much disagree with, yes. But more concretely for the discussions here, I see adament Biden supporters who yhink these protests are bad because they may help Trump get elected (which I agree is very bad) while protesters who I largely agree with are arguing vehemently that any support of Biden is pro-genocide (which I disagree with). Neither group seem like bad folk. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I agree with you. The only thing I can think of is that people have a very poor perception about the risks to students, especially Jewish ones, due to biassed media coverage. If these encampments were posing a genuine threat to an at-risk group of students, that would be a compelling reason to be very against these protests. I've not seen that and very much push back on that claim, but it is one that the news and politicians seem to be peddling. @npub1c2w…ugye npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio The number of people on Mastodon (aka who I'm talking to in this post) who called the cops on students is very likely zero. I'm not sure what concensus you think I'm alluding to, so I'm not sure where false consenses fits in here. Feel free to clarify. Regardless, I'm not sure how you are arguing that increasing the angry rhetoric is a desirable solution to what's going on... npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Unhelpful. Also, for context, I was arrested when linked arm and arm with students on my campus. While not biologically my kids, it has similar emotional connection, to me at least. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio As tensions rise over protests and foreign policy, please remember we don't need to 100% agree to be on the same side. Far-right fascists are mobilizing and authoritarian countries are weaponizong the #Gaza war to weaken democracy. These are far bigger threats than the fellow liberals who happen to have come down on the other side of this complex and highly-emotional topic of #Palestine and #Israel. Good people can and do disagree, so it may be helpful to tone down the angry rhetoric. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio If voting doesn't matter, why are the wealthy wasting their time on it? Upset that progress isn't happening fast enough? I am with you. Voting is just one part of making the change we want to see in the world, but an important one. #Politics #VoteBlue https://objstorage.f7it.net/masto1/media_attachments/files/112/377/923/152/819/113/original/485197c932cc2e83.png npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Not sure I would put too much weight into this study. Sounds like they just interviewed 16 students and many reported that it may change whether or not they vote. No one is changing their views to vote for Trump because of this, it is those who choose to disengage and not vote that pose a risk to the 2024 election. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I don't think I have heard this... Any details on what the pushback was? npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio That freedom to explore is really useful. Sorry to hear your gradschool gave you problems for not having a GPA though. That is definitely a cost of doing things differently. [@dlakelan](https://mastodon.sdf.org/@dlakelan) npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio You are definitely speaking my language again now. My research is on grades and suggesting we move away from them because they are, essentially, just biassed signals to the labor market (and I do not serve the labor market). And I agree the sorting and signaling at the heart of the education process sacrifices learning (and largely kills off kids' innate desire to learn) for the sake of getting into the "best" school to signal value to future employers. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio The world is complex, the issues surrounding the campus #Gaza protests are no exception. But much of it can be paired down to a simple preference ranking: Peaceful protestors protesting for peace >?< Private property By and large, these protests are demanding schools divest from weapons companies profiting from the war; their only crime - prior to police arriving, at least - is setting up tents on campus quads. You don't actually need to fully agree with every protesters to support them. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio The question at hand is can one break laws in protest? Getting into the normative question of if they are right is besides the point. Do you truly stand for breaking up a peaceful protest on a public university campus because they were trespassing and refused to take down their tents? It's about what takes presidence, right to express their views (free speech) or private property rights. Or are you arguing that depends on the veracity of their arguments? npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Aww come now [@GreenFire](https://mstdn.social/@GreenFire), this deserves more than a favorite as you leave the conversation. You opened the argument about legality of the cops. Now a stand on the mortality of what they are doing. You reply-guy into the thread to criticize me for linking arms with the peaceful protestors on the Denver campus on the grounds we were trespassing. Follow that argument through to its logical conclusions (that contradict values I know you believe in). You're walking away cause you were put in check? npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I think those are good points (especially if you consider any movement that students are involved in to be "student movements") so I'll conceed the initial statement is overly broad. How about we narrow it down to focus on movements more similar to the current protests to ones where students are peacefully* protesting on college campus that get disrupted by cops in riot gear. Any counter examples in that realm? *Here peaceful = non-violent before any cops arrive. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio You are totally right. I forgot it's all about the US, which is silly cause I live here and see/hear that mentality all the time. I must be getting old to forget such an important truth ;) [@i_gvf](https://mastodon.world/@i_gvf) npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio [@GreenFire](https://mstdn.social/@GreenFire) Of course. Everything the police did were perfectly legal (and they genuinely showed good restraint and professionalism in Denver). That is a far cry from making it right, in any way. Peaceful protests on campuses (not saying all are, but this one was) to express their first amendment right of free speech should take precidence over the property rights of the owners of the grass they are sitting on, imo. [@nathan](https://montevista.net/@nathan) [@lednaBM](https://stranger.social/@lednaBM) npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I must have missed the "death to America" chant at the one I was at. Seemed more like students demanding fewer us weapons being used to kill children. Obviously people can cherry pick whatever sound bites they want to fit any given narrative and it's fine if you disagree about the overall goals of the protest. But I can say with certainty the students I sided with were 100% peaceful without an ounce of antisemitism and there was no just call for riot police. [@nathan](https://montevista.net/@nathan) [@lednaBM](https://stranger.social/@lednaBM) npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I'm far from an expert on that example, but I'm not getting the sense it was student-led in any sense. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Regardless of if one defines J6 as a protest or riot, it is a poor comparison to the *peaceful* protest of students that was disrupted by the riot squad in Denver. Bit of a different reaction from law enforcement too, strangely. Saw a lot more national guardsmen defending the Tivoli quad than the national capital on J6. [@nathan](https://montevista.net/@nathan) [@lednaBM](https://stranger.social/@lednaBM) npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio There are certainly risks and downsides (as with all things). Though I'm curious about the term "manipulating" here. Out of all the forms of communication we are seeing today, I funny think protests rank highly on the manipulation-meter. Nor would I think that most protests are formed because of manipulation. But I may be misinterpreting what you mean here. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Protests help raise awareness and help shape views, discourse, and, eventually, policy. It helps students get engaged in politics, many of whom will continue to take a more active role in our throughout the rest of their lives because of their experiences there. Did the Vietnam protests immediately change policy? No, but it was a part of a shift in mindset so we now look back on that war in distaste. It may be the most sensible use of students' very limited power I can think of. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I think we may have a very different idea about how much the Venn Diagram of "protest" and "sensible solutions" overlap ;) npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Important question: when have large-scale student movements been on the wrong side of history? I may be biased by my progressive leanings (no, scratch that, I'm definitely heavily biased by them) but it seems like we can reliably look to the young to see the direction we should be moving. I don't care where you stand politically or your views on the fucked up situation in Gaza, everyone should be standing up to loudly support the rights of students across the globe to protest. Full stop. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio [@thesquirrelfish](https://sfba.social/@thesquirrelfish) Fully agree that the interconnection of the issues makes it incredibly challenging and, likely, necessary to address all at once. The power of fossil fuel companies to impact elections is huge. The challenge is I can't imagine a full overhaul changing everything all at once without opening up a huge power vacuum that, in all likelihood, will be filled with something worse. It's a tough problem and it seems like the deck is stacked against us... [@rythur](https://mastodon.social/@rythur) [@_noelamac_](https://spore.social/@_noelamac_) npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio I'm not sure I'd say it that strongly. [@dan613](https://ottawa.place/@dan613) provided a good response critiquing it and is correct that the analysis only considers fossil fuels, which do seem to be approaching a peak. https://objstorage.f7it.net/masto1/media_attachments/files/112/333/951/619/010/688/original/6277cfc9a179276f.png npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Cool, I'll check it out after my semester ends. Thanks for the reference! npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Yeah. When farm workers need to wear hazmat suits to spray chemicals, we should be worried. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Oh, capitalism works. It works exactly as intended. It just doesn't work for us. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Almost 4/10 people in the US, one of the wealthiest countries in the world, experience unhealthy levels of air pollution. "Climate change is not remote, it’s not an abstraction. It is a reality impacting the health of millions of people from coast to coast every year," as forest fires contribute to this. This shows the #neoliberal prediction that rising wealth will solve environmental issues (called the Environmental Kuznets Curve) is a myth. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/24/air-quality-pollution-unhealthy #economics #ClimateChange npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio We have those laws in the US too. But they don't seem to be applied to the tech sector, at least not yet. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Really appreciate the post and agree with everything except the use of #degrowth here. The fact we are approaching a collapse and that GDP will drop is a consequence of growth-thinking. Degrowth is about changing goals and processes to reduce the drop in well-being we see coming; it's a mindset shift and not a measure of GDP and it's trajectory. So I'd rephrase it to GDP decline is going to happen and we can make the best of it by pursuing degrowth, ideally sooner than later. npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Fully agree. That predatory pricing model is basically how every tech startup works. Burn through money to focus exclusively on market share and, if you get big enough, use that leverage to become profitable in the future. You'd think there would be laws against that we could use to prevent that from happening... npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio When you think #greedflation, the image that comes to mind should be #Amazon. "Amazon now makes up about 40% of all online retail — the company started raising prices on the products it sells directly." "Nearly 50% of sellers' revenue goes to Amazon in fees," much of which is passed on as higher prices. This is another great example of Monopoly rent as Corey Doctorow, [@pluralistic](https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic), discussed in a recent piece. https://www.axios.com/2024/04/22/amazon-price-inflation https://locusmag.com/2024/03/cory-doctorow-capitalists-hate-capitalism/ #economics npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio Carbon capture is a sketchy proposition, at best. There is no way to think it will be cheaper to suck carbon out if the atmosphere than it is to simply not put it there in the first place. If it is too have any gains, it has to be used in addition to widescale reduction in fossil fuels. That will certainly not happen when the fossil fuel industry is designing the systems, which more and more just become a way to promote business and usual (aka profits for Big Oil). npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio A new study in Nature has estimated dramatically higher cost of damages from #ClimateChange which could be as much as $38 trillion but 2049. That's more than double the annual GDP of the EU. And here's the kicker: "The new research is likely an underestimate of the economic hit from climate change since it does not include the impacts of sea level rise, stronger hurricanes, heat waves and human health effects, along with other costly influences." https://www.axios.com/2024/04/18/climate-change-damages-38-trillion #ClimateCrisis npub165ct04kdzaq7wtqsqthqawk5cygyamgfusv0m4mr2tusqhm4v88q9ltdlq Kyle Montanio (Neoliberal) Evonomic Theory: the pursuit of profits will ensure resources are put to their most efficient use, best meeting the needs of society. Capitalism in Practice: potato-chip-holster-boots. https://www.axios.com/2024/04/16/pringles-crocs-swicy-chips #economics #capitalism #TeachEcon https://objstorage.f7it.net/masto1/media_attachments/files/112/283/269/923/406/027/original/994645cb00e04a6a.png