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Last Notes npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan each party sends a new signature to the other every time a transaction is made that updates the balance. this enables either party to unilaterally close the "channel" whenever they want (since they have two valid signatures) and get the sats back out on the mainchain. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan do you understand what multisig is? because you need to understand multisig to understand payment channels and you need to understand payment channels to understand what the LN is. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan a payment channel on LN is just a 2 of 2 mainchain multisig. it doesn't go away if the node is onffline. either party can unilaterally close the channel and get their sats back. there are literally hundreds of articles, guides and howtos on LN self custody. if you dont believe it exists, its a You Problem. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan they are not on third party custody you unbelievable knob they are in a channel that I have the keys to. in this case I am also running the node, not that its necessary. nobody can take them or spend them without stealing the keys that I am holding. self custody. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan 1. you dont have to run a full node to self custody sats on LN. youre advertising your ignorance. 2. its retarded to wait around for someone to prove it to you. you can literally learn about it and use it yourself. i have 58k sats in this LN channel https://i.nostr.build/hUfqiiN4LqdxzUH1.png npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan https://i.nostr.build/SyM1w8no5ETUJL0M.jpg npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan this is just "custodial #Bitcoin is not Bitcoin" which doesn't have anything to do with LN specifically npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan LN actually be being Bitcoin tho npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan when I went keto, mushrooms stopped working for me weirdest damn thing npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan yeah people who are unwell should probably not fuck around with lots of stuff npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan rofl 😂 i stand corrected npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan this is cool but ecash is not Bitcoin. its "redeemable for Bitcoin." npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan ill dig up the spectrograph npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan Life is satisfying when you devote it to something larger than yourself. It doesn't have to be children. Preoccupation with yourself is inherently dissatisfactory. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan on a related note word on the street is that the new tribe seuss DS 4.0 is testing at completely pure (maybe theyre calling it 5.0 since they had a synth that was lost somehow) npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan what the fuck is a "super cycle" and who gives a fuck? npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan did you have a fun night tho? npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan So directly after breakfast I broke the water line. How is your day going? #homesteading npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan now we're importing drama from X #nevent1q…j5nu npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan they're going to map the entire blockchain and every UTXO will get scored. financial surveillance as a service. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan you can use keychat as an external signer? npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan no its good like this. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan I don't know who needs to hear this but @npub1use…k5ks probably made the best nostr client for Android https://github.com/dluvian/voyage npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan nerds ❤️ npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan not your keys, not your coins npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan would absolutely come holler at ya npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan A reminder that the goal is endless war https://v.nostr.build/BaSXw5bDIwTgMYao.mp4 npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan what I'm saying is that the blog post doesn't seem to be addressing that issue at all npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan but isn't that wording kind of weird? we're not concerned with the keys being sent to the client... we're concerned the *coordinator being able to link inputs/output, not the clients. it seems like theyre addressing a different issue there. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan I think we need a comment from the devs on this isssue directly @nprofile…44wp what do you think? npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan well he's smart enough dont you think? and I think he could actually be a good educator. like if he tried to present the data without the spin doctor stuff he would be a useful resource. but his bias makes it all pretty sad attempts at fud instead. no clue about motive, it seems to just be confirmation bias. for example afaict he honestly wants to believe this bust is really evidence of an EAE attack. there's just no data to support that conclusion. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan its kind of moot, hes just trying to create the impression they followed the funds through a 2nd hop. ie making up data that doesn't exist. when they explicitly say they just saw Bitcoin get deposited into a swap service and then Monero arrive on the CEX. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan @nprofile…mh4h says that when law enforcement observes coins arrive in a suspects CEX account that's called they "found them by tracing" Its hard to believe anybody still takes what this person says as legitimate. https://i.nostr.build/WY8u3hixELOUxahr.jpg #monero npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan bro I agree the appearance of 4 xmr suggests he's going to a self-custodial wallet before the coins go to the CEX but the document doesnt "imply" anywhere they have insight into that wallet or that it even exists. therefore there is no evidence here a "trace" was ever performed. and in every other example the amounts are basically identical. so youre not "providing evidence" you're suggesting your own conclusions about what the evidence means. all based on ONE amount discrepancy. so you're either lying or have REALLY bad confirmation bias. the data we have here does NOT show evidence of any trace. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan just making it clear that it is YOU and not the document that is claiming a trace of monero was done. and it certainly describes timing analysis of a Bitcoin to Monero swap. that we agree on . but only a disingenuous liar would try to spin that as "tracing monero". and your suggestion they "found the admin" through this weak-ass timing analysis is still unsupported anywhere. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan ok so you admit then they make no claim they traced monero and these 4 paragraphs are just "supporting evidence" that a trace was performed. those 4 paragraphs do not contain the information you claim. there is NO "exchange A." it is a swapping service and they never suggest or imply the suspect had control of the funds here or that they have any transparency into them. so we can throw your points 1 and 2 right into the toilet as you see below in *the actual text* there is no suggestion the subject made a withdrawal from the swap service at all. the ONLY information they provide in those 4 paragraphs is that Bitcoin was sent in to the swap and after 20 minutes, Monero arrived at the CEX. everything else is YOUR supposition. all four have the format "On or about May 17, 2022, at approximately 09:59 UTC, Administrator Wallet-1 transferred 1 Bitcoin to Swapping Service1 where it was swapped for approximately 176.07 XMR. Approximately 27 minutes after the 1 Bitcoin transfer from Administrator Wallet-1, which was converted to 176.07 XMR, Crypto Account-1 received a deposit of 180 XMR" show me the "trace" in this text. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan Those four sections only say "Bitcoin was sent to a swap service and after X minutes, Monero arrived at the suspects CEX account" as they explicitly explain in subparagraph v "v. These transfers appear to indicate that the transferor used Swapping Service-1 to obscure the source of the money transferred from Administrator Wallet-1 to Crypto Account-1. That is, rather than transfer money from Administrator Wallet-1 directly to Crypto Account-1, cryptocurrency was first swapped through Swapping Service-1 and converted from Bitcoin to Monero, which is a cryptocurrency that is much more difficult to trace. After the swap, the funds were transferred into LIN’s Crypto Account" Still waiting for supporting evidence they did any "tracing" of Monero... because those four paragraphs aren't it. and your assertion that they identified him *through* any activity like that is another straight up lie. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan hey Skip find the place in that document the DoJ claims they trace monero. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan format my posts what way? npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan aha except its not a disagreement. i have shown what the document ACTUALLY says you have failed to show any supporting evidence and will only share your own interpretation of the data. ie you lie about what it says. show me where they suggest AT ALL they "trace Monero" and they absolutely DO NOT say they found the admin of Incognito by tracing his monero ill wait for your correction. https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/media/1352571/dl npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan i am not aware of another stupid little antimonero site so the honor of "most popular" is all yours. and you're still lying here #nevent1q…k3f2 npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan bro can only lie more when called out i really think he's doing LN privacy a disservice by acting in such a transparently dishonest way #nevent1q…43ld npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan more lies. they say nothing about "withdrawn from the swap service" they simply say they observed BTC be sent to the swap service, and then seconds or minutes later Monero arrived at the suspects CEX account. that isnt "tracing monero" at all. and it sure as hell isnt how they "found the admin of Incognito Market by tracing his monero" as you claim in your bullshit site npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan @nprofile…mh4h caught lying again about #monero ”tracing” last time he was calling the sender *knowing the destination* of their transaction "tracing monero" today its <checks notes> law enforcement watching Bitcoin be sent to a swap service and then seeing Monero get deposited to a their suspects KYCed CEX account is "tracing monero" really confused about what the motivation could be behind such transparent lies. it certainly isn't interest in user privacy 🤨 #nevent1q…v5w0 npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan STNs standard operating procedure, throw something together, lie about what the data says and make more work for the people who are interested in truth https://i.nostr.build/GCOjjpteTkNHtMcd.gif npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan your very first "source" doesn't say what you claim it does. show me where in https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/media/1352571/dl they indicate "The Justice Department says they found the admin of Incognito Market by tracing his monero" npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan Whether that's true or not, Mises still disagrees on the definition of inflation npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan not according to Mises anyway #nevent1q…568h npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan The app takes probably a full minute to open and then periodically just lags out while using unusable npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan we were gonna get Palantir even if it was Kamala npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan why is @npub1yzv…rf8q still so retarded on GrapheneOS? obviously not at all interested in fixing it... disappointing npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan there is literally one LN wallet that is privacy preserving ie you can run the node and it calculates routing on the device and heres one guys saga of trying to get it to work this morning. so STFU, nobody said it *couldn't do it. but monero always works. #nevent1q…vvh0 npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan good job dude youre exactly why people give up on bitcoin and start looking at monero 👍 npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan he has a business and has to accept payments. hes not buying tshirts and seed plates. monero always works. GFY npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan no Austrian ever argued for a fixed number of monetary units. Or that a permanent structurally deflationary environment was ideal. #bitcoin maxis need a new term to describe their economic philosophy. how about #Saifedeanian? #asknostr npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan absolutely nobody at all: 🤐🤐🤐 STN : ”MONERO TELLS THE SENDER HOW MUCH THEY SENT TO THE RECIPIENT!!" ... I am ded ... 🤣🤣🤣 #nevent1q…vanf npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan hey i looked into the issue a little more and found a good write-up on the nuances https://github.com/cake-tech/cake_wallet/issues/337#issuecomment-2648546880 npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan and a good UX? https://i.nostr.build/V0FI2Pmufr35q1Ng.webp npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan just kinda weird that we're going to unnecessarily have these centralized custodial solutions and then make a bunch of posts like "but wait, how are we going to vett these trusted 3rd parties???" npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan I'm not shitting on ecash its just that I don't enjoy getting fucked in the ass #nevent1q…0uw6 npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan not to brag but I just copied the #monero blockchain over to a new drive on a new machine and monerod picked up just 30 blocks behind npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan its 2025 and maxi autists are still reeeing when Matt invites Seth on the pod #nevent1q…fqqk npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan the Lords work npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan Seth is definitely NOT a monero maxi his takes are much more intelligent than the bullshit y'all are spouting off the difference is that we actually prioritize tools that protect users over tribalism npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan was wondering... considering it was yours. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan huh? 😬 bitcoin IS too public and transparent and everybody should have privacy afaik nobody says LN not private but running a full LN stack for privacy sucks and what's wrong with Monero again? npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan New Watchmen newsletter just dropped npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan theu objected because you shared what the LLM told you? npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan Bro I have an entire life outside of arguing with you on Nostr Ill go ahead and concede that I would not be able to identify that information npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan in what way is it "crackable?" How about I'll pick a transaction and you'll "crack" the true spend? npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan yes npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan prove to me the routing nodes cant collude to do timing analysis on payments. ill wait. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan its not totally useless. you can see where that stealth address pops up as a *possible input in the future. you just dont know if its a decoy or a true spend. @nprofile…eh46 illustrates this technique here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sTT84Up7FY npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan come watch STN give a master class in using red herring and strawman logical fallacies. (the original topic is STILL the sender of a tx knowing the destination is not "tracing the payment") #bitcoin #monero #nevent1q…k73a npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan seems to me his point is just "the blockchain is forever" ie there is cryptographic proof that address controlled those funds forever. which is a legit concern. he's just misrepresenting it. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan this bullshit again now a view key is "proof of trace" homeboy wants people to think being told *where to send the funds* is "tracing" when they want to redefine words you know they're coping hard. #nevent1q…6jyx npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan oh i see so Bitcoin is only cash under certain specific conditions got it 👍 npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan not cash then npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan welll... if cash was tracked on a public database anyone with a internet connection could audit npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan ffs this is why @nprofile…mh4h insists on calling the sender of a tx knowing the destination "tracing." because people unfamiliar with the nuances just think "apparently monero is traceable." and FUD increases and he apparently gets off on that intellectually dishonest bullshit. the sender knows where the #monero goes. there is no tracing involved. its not ideal. but it isnt fucking "tracing monero" #nevent1q…v0h4 npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan lol @nprofile…mh4h and I have an ongoing discussion he likes to call it "tracing" because saying "the sender of a transaction knows the destination" doesnt sound very impressive. but that all that stupid "challenge" of his shows. it isnt "tracing monero." he just thinks its funny to make work for other people. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan get fucked penguin npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan sure but the point I was making was that even if you send monero straight from the CEX, a 3rd party doesn't know where it goes. so while using a CEX or Windows or whatever isn't ideal, they still have some privacy guarantees. on a transparent chain if you seek privacy its at least clear how you did it. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan I don't understand what you mean by "use your onchain utxo afterward" maybe I just dont know how crypto dot com works. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan its true 👍 but sending monero straight from an exchange is still more private than using a transparent chain. I will take better over worse. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan sorry but it all comes back to people in the end. I don't care how game theoretically perfect the protocol is, it exists in the context of people. if those people have different values than the network represents, they will either use it in a different, unintended way or they will use something else that accords with their values and the network will fail. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan homeboy is absolutely correct that censorship resistance cannot be maintained if the community doesnt care about it. original principles may not have completely disappeared but they are in extremely short supply. my bro is right to call it out. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan why does proving the ownership of a utxo somewhere (not being used in the coinjoin) provided better Sybil resistance than fidelity bonds? and what about the aut-ct "caveat?" https://github.com/AdamISZ/aut-ct?tab=readme-ov-file#caveat npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan i propose .6 units every 2 minutes. distributed to the one who guesses the lucky number. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan great explanation. the point of the note is to encourage this questioning of terms. there is method to my pedantry lol npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan Mises didnt think expansion of the monetary supply was inflation. #nevent1q…92p7 npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan he does seem to have some natural talent. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan IOW if the monetary supply increases in pace with economic activity, it isnt inflation. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan "There is only one meaning that can rationally be attached to the expression 'Inflation': an increase in the quantity of money that *is not offset* by a corresponding increase in the need for money" Ludwig von Mises on tail emission #bitcoin npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan that's still not correct. has gold failed to retain its value over 4000 years? a fixed supply isnt a requirement for retaining value. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan i think if we include the caveat of "custody and UX dont matter" you can basically do what monero does with LN. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan monero doesnt "retain less value" its fiat price increases slower that isn't a value retention problem. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan you're being the problem dude there are no silly requirements for using Monero and it provides important features not available on Bitcoin npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan people want the president to be an intelligent person. DJT seems barely literate. npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa Kanzan @nprofile…mh4h : Random people can trace monero payments. me: No. you mean that the sender of a payment knows the destination. that isn't "tracing." @nprofile…mh4h : monerobros always play semantic games! 🤡