Old, very old...in the background of my avatar, you can see the exact middle of nowhere. (I had copied some political slogans from fedi campaigns I supported. I still support them, but the slogans may have lost their context, so I deleted them. May add more as they appeal to me. In general, I am anti-capitalist, pro-woke, and think Fedi can help organize a better economic system.)
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Last Notes npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1ykg…g4jv I guess I should read it... npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub174z…6y0t they got some amazing new lego sets...hope it's relaxing and fun. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1swy…snpj thanks for reporting all this stuff here. Bookmarked. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1kpv…ye0h yes please. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1kvm…5tsm Oops, I added a mention of netdiff before I saw that you had already solved the problem.... npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1s5a…y2p7 yeah, where's Kafka when we need him? npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub13dw…700w > maybe best to publish in two parts? Your pick. I will read it all regardless. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu This is for the people who have posted Follow requests that I have not yet authorized. I want to see some posts so I know you are a real person and not out to sell me something. I keep checking now and then to see if you have posted anything beyond the follow request. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1uw8…88kr had the same experience with a recent bread bake and fixed it next time with (of course) mooorrre butter. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub10up…tqyu we need our own class ranking. Good place to start? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxian_class_theory npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1nf4…z0nt hope you will stay here. I use your toots as links to interesting blog posts. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub10up…tqyu Mono And Diglycerides? npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1mmf…eknq I'm with the people who hope you'll stay and appreciate your posts. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu Starting Monday, I will be incommunicado to recover from this bizarre eye surgery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descemet_membrane_endothelial_keratoplasty I will need to lay on my back face up for most of the time for a few days.. I will announce here when I am communicado again. After the surgery, I hope to be able to read un-enlarged text again and see some other things normal people can see like to identify birds on the wing.. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu After several recommendations, I tried phanpy. Looks "modern" as in, unreadable to me. Font too faint. But it is enlargeable, which helps some. Playing with the settings, larger text size helps a lot. I'd also prefer slightly bolder, but that doesn't seem to be an option. I'll continue to experiment.... npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1vty…l256 I don't know that much, but I think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet was not originally on the internet. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1k08…6xvn cleaning out the spam? npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1k08…6xvn waS that report from one of the spamming instances? But thanks for reporting about the spam. And they should thank you, too. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub16hx…u6hc /sub (subscribing for answers) npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1uyx…dmcm thanks for reposting. Very well said! npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1ved…c8mj not just in BC. Canada and US midwest, too, npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu I'm very happy that the category theorists (Catsters, I call them) have joined the fediverse. We were heavily influenced by them when we started to work on economic networks, as you can see here https://write.as/economic-networks/visual-languages-resource-flow-diagrams (Do they call themselves Catsters?) npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu actually Lexie will connect to iPhone, which I don;t and won't use. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu Looking for advice on headphones for online meetings, which I do a lot of these days. My ears are gone. I use over-the-counter hearing aids from Lexie, which are the best I have ever used for real-life conversations (and I've used a lot of them, including medical ones at first, but the OTC ones soon got better than the medical ones. But Lexie will not connect to online meetings (eg Zoom) so I am casting about for something better. Prefer a computer-connected headset with tailor-able sound. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub14tz…3xsr you might want to think about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haybox That's what we use for a lot of long-cooking. We just like a square cardboard box with old pillows. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1f6a…93vt Were you talking about my SSB profile? @npub13q8…y0cj @npub1jxy…ny0r npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1gch…00vs What's happening with the 6-12 Month Plan at the end of https://gitlab.com/-/snippets/2535398 ? Especially the "integrated financial exchange system", altho I am more interested in an economic network that created and distributes material resources like food rather than purely financial. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub13dw…700w good one! Thanks. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu What do you call it when a big corporation files a patent on techniques that you and other people have been working on, and publishing on, for years? https://social.coop/@[email protected] /111772288236574436 npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu That table will continue to be accurate until the people in the subordinate poles get together and overturn the system. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu New blog post almost ready to publish: https://write.as/economic-networks/ideological-positions-in-the-us-social-economic-system https://social-coop-media.ams3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/media_attachments/files/111/720/986/266/031/572/original/e88be85fbc75a6b5.png npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1qjs…p9uj bookmarking to get the answers. I am also running on PopOS. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub14d7…dm4s I did not think you would judge me, but did want you to know I had edited it so you would see the latest version. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub14d7…dm4s if anybody from Masto reads this, I have great respect for what you have done, and it has obviously been very successful. But that happens to a lot of successful systems. Eventually they run into their own designed limitations. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub14d7…dm4s one problem I am having is my eyes, which are going. As are my ears. But my eyes make it hard to see what I typed which is why I had to edit that reply three times. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub14d7…dm4s what have you improved in our fork? I;ve also been following Bonfire and know the people who stared it. But I am also thinking working on something new that would be very easy to code with and modify. Something like mostly plain HTML with very limited Javascript. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub14d7…dm4s > But i am just imagining masto trying to handle a bunch of the same object and i am like that definitely would not work. I think we gotta get out of masto, It has become a hindrance.. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu > What's the simplest and easiest technical stack for creating Activity Pub servers and clients? How about https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/a-quick-survey-of-php-projects-in-the-activitypub-space-plus-comments/464 Any comments from people who have used any of that stuff? npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu What's the simplest and easiest technical stack for creating Activity Pub servers and clients? npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1js9…maz4 got any ideas about easy and fun method of developing for Fedi? I intend to work on it in the new year. and will be interested in related efforts and maybe collaborators. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1js9…maz4 Me too. Did you mean: a) an easy and fun project, or b) an easy and fun method for developing for Fedi? I am interested in b. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1swy…snpj I should be watching that game so I can fully appreciate your comments...;-} npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1a26…qhq3 yeah it's different if they are just visiting. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1a26…qhq3 I recognize that picture! Are they old enuf to help wash the dishes? That's fun, too! npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1alm…t4v4 @npub1u27…3qfq Thanks. Reading now for the first time. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu I have mentioned Lynn's Mother's principle of social provisioning before. Here is a new (new to me, anyway) organization giving it some legs: https://www.socialguarantee.org/ npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1alm…t4v4 Thanks, Does the BBC think that rel=me with a link to a website is enough to verify an account? @npub1u27…3qfq npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1u27…3qfq Do you know how they want to verify accounts? (Or should it have been obvious to me?...) @npub1alm…t4v4 npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub19uy…0n85 Thanks for pulling that whole story together. I saw a reference to Israel creating Hamas to oppose the PLO but wanted more of the story, which you provided in that article.. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub16hx…u6hc nit I should say,, developing the models and the software gives the article a lot more substance and credibility! npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1ytq…9rrp thank you very much for your gift of making that open. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub16hx…u6hc the risk in lean-as-possible supply chains is disruptions from unexpected events. I wonder if AI following all the relevant news would be useful there? npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub16hx…u6hc I read the paper. Very interesting! To really understand it, I will need to install the software and run the models. My experience with several supply chains was focused more on efficiency than risks. We got as close as we could to one-piece flow up and down the chain. E.g. working as much as possible from actual customer orders and fulfilling each order as fast as possible and using forecasts and build-ahead inventory as little as possible. More in next reply... npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1qmc…v6gx your parents will be so relieved. But I am part of that generation and I hope we can figure out some way to get revenge on all of those companies and systems. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu Trying @npub18ps…pra2 npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1pfe…e2dm I can sorta go along with what you wrote but capitalism is a totalizing system. Each force and feature reinforces the whole in a global ruling class. The aspect that is most damaging at this stage of planetary history is the incentives to produce more greenhouse gases, but those are all connected to the general incentivizes to degrade ecosystems for profit. Private profit is the key. But it is upheld by a global system. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu Ok, I remembered who it w;as; just as I was ready to shut down the screen for the night. It was @npub16hx…u6hc and the thread was https://social.coop/@[email protected] /111567736175847785 about supply chains which I have some experience in. Too late tonight, I'll read and respond tomorrow. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu My fedi feed got way out of control the last couple of days. I need to go on a fedi diet for a while. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu I promised somebody to study and send feedback today about something about category theory that I can't find now. If that was you, I am sorry. I still want to do it, but will need to either find it again or if that was you, and you would be so kind as to remind me, I would be grateful. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1a5c…sd39 I have had good luck going to used office supply stores and getting well-made second-hand stuff for cheap. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub13dw…700w @npub1vln…3a6p > In terms of value flows or materials flows Material flows are value flows. > does it make sense to think of final consumption (not for production) as a flow "out" of the network? Not to me. The local people are in-network. > Is the reproduction of labor power, and consumption to that end, internal to the network? I would say yes. @npub1vln…3a6p what do you think ? npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1u27…3qfq Good thread. Bookmarked. Thanks for the summaries. Is this the link to the episode? https://dot-social.simplecast.com/episodes/mike-masnick And how about this for that paper? https://www.techdirt.com/2019/08/28/protocols-not-platforms-technological-approach-to-free-speech/ @npub1ckm…gutz @npub1lsl…9c2x npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1znz…8l64 How's Cyprus on the radicalization curve? (I assume you mean rightwingization...) npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1qxv…z6hl @npub13dw…700w @npub14kq…v9mn If any of you learn of a recording of the event for viewing later, I would gratefully watch it. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1th4…cem3 @npub1xtm…3hcj > Would you be open to the idea of Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed, and other Fediverse platforms adopting the AT protocol in order to federate with it? Hell no. Let them adopt AP which is a standard. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1g5u…va74 thanks for the tip. I shared. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1qjs…p9uj correct. And all of the co-ops-vs-unions struggles I have seen have been retail co-ops. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu REI, a co-op, is fighting its staff who want to unionize. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/15/rei-union-complaint-labor-law I'm shocked but not shocked. I've seen that before, co-ops against unions, and also seen some large suppliers of retail co-ops helping them fight against unionization. Why is that? Co-op people, what do you think? npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub180c…h6w6 @npub1gcx…nj5z That smells like political failure rather than RDF failure. No? Could be any other format with the same results. I'm not promoting RDF here, just doing a little smell test... npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1cnn…sl5r Wow! Heroic! npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub187q…07a2 @npub1hrl…rdwx offers a WYSWYG editor that saves as Markdown and if you want, you can write both ways.. Best of both worlds? And theirs is not the only WYSWYG-to-markdown editor. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1qe5…8ugl or provide all the necessities of life free for everyone who wants them with no jobs or money required. But that could end capitalism... I expect that is what they are worried about, not peoples' jobs, which they will happily kill without remorse. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub15k3…lkf0 please ping us if and when it's publicly available. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1dnx…5zma I have some experience with W3C (both good and bad) and use Firefox (Mozilla) as my current browser of choice but have no direct experience with EFF. I do understand why Google funds Mozilla and don't hold that against Mozilla, it's a Google political ploy that they hope will fend off monopoly charges (but it hasn't). But what makes you think that either EFF or Mozilla are opposed to or hinder the openweb? npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1dnx…5zma I have liked your positive and detailed previous governance proposals. Your"path out of the funding mess" goes in that direction. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1dnx…5zma since you apparently hate all of the people here, why are you here? Or can you name another set or two of people you have some hope for and can work with? (I see a lot of people trying to make the fediverse work better, and it is one of my main hopes for the future. I don't think I fit into any of your categories. Except from history you will probably call me a prat...) npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1ytq…9rrp Uncle Karl understood capitalism as a class thing, so I think he would say yup to the intro of that article. But thanks for citing it here. Very interesting! And yes I had to sign up for an account. 12ft.io did not work, alas. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1pfr…c5m6 not responding to any particular post, but you continue to be the master of naming. #TheBadSpace , Heat Rating, etc. Keep it up! And I know you will. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu I had failed to keep up with my follow requests, so I authorized all of them that had any info in their profiles. So now my whole feed is jammed with "followed you" toots.... oh well. I'll try to keep up better in the future. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1ffm…p5zf what id their agenda? And what do you conclude from your look through the videos? npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1ffm…p5zf this is not disagreement, just a question. How so? For example? npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1nlq…5e57 @npub127z…744g @npub1vln…3a6p New thread maybe? Have we exhausted the Valueflows/Driftless/etc topics and want to get back to the Stafford Beer/Viable System Model(VSM) topic? Or Mike do you want to expand on the human organization side of economic network coordination? Could be a useful angle. Or something else? Or nothing, everybody is tired of it all? npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1k08…6xvn Agreed. It would also be interesting to tease out some of the details in Fedi-related systems, as Stafford Beer does in his own systems. That would be a longer conversation... @npub1n2q…2a5r npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu Thanks for the tip, @npub1k08…6xvn https://monoskop.org/images/e/e3/Beer_Stafford_Designing_Freedom.pdf I read more of the part you quoted down-thread, about systems needing some centralized and some decentralized features. And I agree. I have been pushing decentralization in several recent Fedi threads, but that's situational. We started developing economic network software centralized, and then discovered the needs for network members to have their own agency. so some decent. But also to be coordinated, so some cent. @npub1n2q…2a5r npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1trd…ussx https://bonfirenetworks.org/ is working on it. Might be ready for testing soonish at https://campground.bonfire.cafe/ - not quite ready for use. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu @npub1pdv…gqz2 good luck! I'll be interested in how you safely get rid of the wasp nest. I might need it, we got plenty of wasps. npub1wm75dv8hfu6528lkvmy5nudnraczywl7c5dhn8ctnx6xk0983d0skclxpu npub1wm…clxpu #[0] smelled like that.